Barring a miracle in the Champions League, Arsenal will have to wait until 2013 to win a trophy after Sunderland ruthlessly dumped the Gunners out of the FA Cup with a 2-0 win at the Stadium of Light. A deflected Kieran Richardson effort gave Martin O’Neill’s men the lead before half-time, before an Alex Oxlade Chamberlain own goal compounded Arsene Wenger’s misery with fifteen minutes left on the clock.
Things looked to be going OK for five minutes. We controlled possession in the opening exchanges, knocking the ball around with confidence and showing no sign of a hangover from the rout in the San Siro. After great build up play Van Persie was taken down by a Sunderland man and Arteta lined up the resulting free-kick. His decent effort whipped past the post from 25 yards. After that though it was all down hill.
While Kieran Gibbs had been expected to start at left-back, the England man was nowhere to be seen when the teams stepped out on to the field of play. Francis Coquelin was his replacement, but somewhat typically given our season, he went down after nine minutes clutching his hamstring. Vermaelen was shifted out to the left again and everybody’s favourite French defender Sebastien Squillaci came on to make up a makeshift partnership with Djourou in the middle.
The injury to Coquelin interrupted our early rhythm and nervousness returned to the fore. Sessegnon had a snap shot from outside the box which didn’t trouble Fabianski. Ramsey and Song both hit the turf and gingerly limped back into the action while Djourou and Sagna seemed to repeatedly lose their footing when attempting clearances. We were rattled.
On 27 minutes a break led by Van Persie saw Gervinho, making his first start since returning from the African Cup of Nations, charge through on goal. His first touch controlled the ball, his second teed it up, his third hit a fierce effort which Mignolet parried over. It was an encouraging bright spark during a turgid period of play.
Four minutes later Van Persie drove into the box chasing a Song through ball. The Dutchman was felled by an untidy challenge by John O’Shea and Arsene Wenger immediately called for a penalty. You wouldn’t have been surprised if it had been given, although our captain didn’t make a big fuss about it. Back on the front foot we again controlled possession although clear cut chances were few and far between.
Five minutes before half-time clumsiness by Djourou led to a booking for the Swiss and free-kick to Sunderland on the right corner of the Arsenal box. Despite the ball being cleared by Vermaelen it was returned with venom by Kieran Richardson from the edge of the area and crashed past Fabianski. Replays showed the shot clipped Squillaci on the way, a touch which diverted it goalwards. 1-0 to the hosts.
The second 45 minutes started as the first finished – indecisiveness by Bacary Sagna leading to a foul on McLean and a booking for the Frenchman. Larsson from the edge of the box curled the resulting free-kick just over.
Aaron Ramsey, who appeared to pick up a knock early, was replaced by Tomas Rosicky on 51 minutes and to add to the ridiculousness of our injury crisis sub Squillaci also limped off the field with Theo Walcott coming on. Alex Song became the auxiliary centre-back again. We were all over the shop, indiscipline rife through the ranks. Vermaelen the latest to be handed a caution for a stupid challenge on the touchline.
The pitch wasn’t helping matters. Last week Per Mertesacker rolled his ankle, this week Sunderland’s Bardsley was the victim as the turf continued to give way. The hosts were aggressive in the tackle and closed down with real passion. Having had a week to mull over Thierry Henry’s last gasp winner they appeared in the mood for revenge.
In truth, not much happened for about 20 minutes. It was a scrappy affair, both sides struggling to string passes together, Arsenal more so than the Black Cats. With fifteen minutes to go Vermaelen sent a tepid header goalwards. Certainly not much to shout about. To rub salt into the wounds within a minute we went 2-0 down.
A break by Sunderland saw Sessegnon running directly at the Arsenal defence. Arteta fell over chasing back, the Benin international fed Larsson whose shot hit the post. As the ball rolled across the goal line Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain who had raced back to help defend inadvertently diverted the ball over the line. An own goal. 2-0. Game over. Season over.
In the last ten minutes there should have been a reaction…a show of heart, passion, a sense of responsibility towards the badge and the travelling fans. Instead there was nothing. Nothing at all. We were nothing short of a joke.
Somehow we have to find focus to fight for a top four finish in the final three months of the season. Not even the most fervent gambler would be back us right now.
Ho-hum.
From Milan to Wearside, to Hell and Hell again.
miserable eh? get used to it. I suggest we lower expectations of this team. they are soooo bad.
We all love Wenger but changes need to be done as we are not progressing or improving.1) Get fresh ideas, bring in Dennis Bergkamp & Tony Adams as assistants 2) Sign some quality experienced top drawer international players like Hazzard,Goetze, Christian Erikson,Benzema,Hamsik & Mvillaa.3)Get a specilaised defence coach and pay attention to defensive coaching/set pieces 4)Stop living in our past glories and looking at players like Campbell & Henry for Salvation 4/Become tactically more astute and flexible, we cannot play the same way all the time and against all opposition
back in 2001 my girlfriend at the time said she didn’t understand why I supported a team who only win.. she said it was boring.,..
….
….. fuck I like being bored.
We don’t have the bottle for a fight.You can’t play proper football
on a field like that but we cannot adapt and mix it up.
This group of players really do not meet Arsenal standards.
The amazing thing is that the other teams chasing 4th place are
making a dogs breakfast of it so we may still sneak in.
What a week but then we must get used to this type of week every
year at this time.
I feel ashamed of these types of performance. max 3 shots on target all game.
Aren’t people used to this by now? I feel like we’ve gotten this same exact result at the same time of the year about six years in a row.
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Fuck this fucking cunt of a season.
Fuck.
POO
At least we didn’t let them score we took the selfish route and scored for them…twice.
This Is A Manchester United Fan’s Post In A Group:
Arsene Wenger was close to tears in the 89th minute of the game.
Even though I don’t like Arsenal, its sad to see such a legendary manager becoming emotional.
Well, When A Non-Arsenal Fan Has So Much Sympathy And Respect For Wenger !
Where As We Gooners Want Wenger Out ! If A United Fan Respects Wenger So Much ! Then How Much Should We Respect Him ?
These Are The Times When We Should Support Him !
Any other Gooners out there feel like they might be being conned? 5th wealthiest team in the world that doesn’t win anything? Aims to finish 4th to qualify for a championship that we have no chance of winning with the squad we have? Who is reaping the profit? Certainly not us fans who have to put up with the same failure at the same time year in, year out. Does Arsene really think that Djouru, Scillachi and Chamakh are good enough to play for us? Who motivates this team to continually under perform, they lack passion and a winning mentality. There needs to be a revolution this summer.
I’m curious to see what happens if the Arsenal won’t win the derby…
We lent Bolton the wrong player. Will they take Theo for Ryo?
what the fuck has happened to us
What happened? AW persisting with a shocking loyalty and reward of average, under-performing and overpaid deadwood instead of strengthening the team with real quality, that’s what happened to us. Total bollocks, says I.
shocking loyalty is alright if they’re really good talents; shocking loyalty came good with RVP and Henry. It’s unlikely to come good with crap like Walcott.
I mean, do you honestly tell me that Arsenal Football Club cannot sign better players that would make a positive difference and contribution than Chamack, Park, Benayoun, Arshavin, Walcott, Squillaci, Almunia, Diaby (eternally injured), and even Ramsey?
We are AFC, not some cheapskate, broke-ass and barely-surviving mid-table team ffs. Sort it out Arsene or else make way for someone else who will.
So fed up with this crap.
Wenger sold us out in the summer and all the other transfer windows he earned money for the club when we needed reinvestment in the squad, instead of making huge profits. Wenger is ruining this club.
What happened? Wake-up call that was!
AW has a degree in economics. Kind of explains it.
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I said this after the Milan game and got plenty of thumbs down but I will say it again now, we have not won a game since November when Ramsey started in the middle. Yet the arsene persists with his hell come good atitude, maybe with ramseys injury now we can get.ozyakup some game time because there’s no way he could be anyworse than this underperforming shameful lot
@Goontang. At times I wish blogger will rerun some previous news complete with the comment threads. People fronting up for Ramsey time after time. And then after Djorou got that contract extension people were praising Wenger while the few of us that dared to say it was a bad move were harassed, abused and thumbed down. There goes your ‘good squad member n amazing 4th choice CB AKBs’. I can stand the club and manager’s hypocrisy, but hypocrisy from fans?
Hate that we have become a feeder club who sell our best players and replace them with good players but not winners not stars not players who are ready to fight for there team Wenger has lost the plot. we have not been able to defend since the defence he inherited left. we are the laughing stock of the league no one fears playing arsenal anymore they all think they can win when they play us
Silent Stan and Ivan Gutless out! Usmanov and Dein in we need a board who care about the results on the field not results in the bank
Our whole inability was summed up as half time was approaching there was
no urgency and Webb blew the whistle while we passed the ball about
without any attempt to score a goal.
PS Did TW on as a subsitute? I saw more of AA on the subs bench
than TW.
Look on the bright side, at least now we can focus on being 4th!
Yay!
No but seriously, i always try to look for positives and we dont have to play on that shambles of a pitch for the rest of the season, plus we only have one game a week now (unless RVP scores 7 goals against Milan and kills Zlatan imacuntovich,)
People forgot that at the start of the season we all wanted wenger out, then we played well in which case he was a great manager, now you all want him out again. What are we? Chelsea fans?
I understand all your pains, but sitting in a dark room isnt going to make things brighter.
wtf. this is what you get when overrated players underperform. feeling slighlty disillusioned by it all now. another trophyless season and we’ve won FUCK ALL for 7 years.
this game wasn’t lost on Quality , we had more Quality , You don’t need Messi to win you this kind of matches . The players lacked drive and some of that cuntiness .
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Shawcross? Kevin Davies?
Unbelievable……..
I wasn’t serious by the way, we do need to add some physicallity just not to that extreme
why did people thumbs that down I thought it was pretty funny
Well that was diabolical this team has become stagnant a lot of players need to be removed like a gangrenous limb. It seems like Arsen no longer has the answers either and this team and club is just stagnating in mediocrity.
Fucking fuck.
Cunting piss flaps.
It was so hard to penetrate them without the Coq.
The coq went limp again, really need him to stiffen up.
The Coq seems to be the only one to go in head first, which is the reason why the Arse can’t penetrate in tight situations!
I’m not sure it would have made a difference to be honest. Sunderland seem to be perfectly good Coq blockers.
I’m buying an Arsenal shirt with “Self-Sustainable” written on the back.
Who’s with me?
Anybody?
5 people have no sense of humour
I’m gonna buy one saying ‘Europe is bankrupt’.
EVERYBODY OUT?!
Heh.
Season is over for me. Cant stand this shit no more. Need to get my nerves fixed before next season kicks off.
Total time waster.
Cue our annual February to May crisis
Wenger needs to fuck off and leave. Players need to be shown the door and new proper ones bought. Van Persie will leave this summer. Who would stay in a crappy team with no future! Why do I spoil my weekends and my moods? I must be a sucker for self punishment!!
The people giving this a thumbs down need to have a reality check. We have no future with wenger and the adshole stan at the helm.
The last 3 seasons, Wenger has had his most successful period of manager.
We’ve made a profit in each of those years. Granted the football side of things hasn’t gone so well, but who else can come in instead of Wenger and produce such fantastic financial results??
You can keep your Mourinho’s, Ferguson’s and Guardiola’s of this world. All the trophies in the world won’t win us any prizes at the annual Best Run Club Awards dinner
Silent Stan and Ivan Gutless out! Usmanov and Dein in we need a board who care about the results on the field not results in the bank! Wenger needs to buck up his ideas too we aint won shit since we went 433 need to get some support for RVP and go back to 442
who should we get?
-The Manager should be doing better than Wenger at a big league(serie a ,la liga,epl,ligue 1) ie Better than 4th place and winning trophies
-He should be available or have a short term contract ,so the Board can hire or pay his clause
-He should be open to the job and they shouldn’t be from the opposition, So leave Fergie,Mourinho,that Bayern Coach,Arry Redknapp.Capelo etc etc out
you’ll find out there almost no candidates , just look Chelsea ,with all the money they’ve got they had to get AVB who’s doing a worse job with bigger resource than Wenger
I hate to say this as I am an Arsene Wenger Stay fan but Luis van Gaal is available
Yeah he is a great Manager
So with the above requirements ,I made a list of managers who are doing well with their teams
1. Jose Mourinho : won’t want to come ,plus get high wages so the board can’t pay the release clause + he’ll bring cunts like Pepe and Carvalho with him
2.Pep Guardiola , there is a possibility ,but very little
3.Vicente Del Bosque : very unrealistic
4.Capello : hates England
5.Joachim Low : said he’ll see out his contract
6.Unai Emery : he is doing the same thing Wenger is doing with Arsenal , Finishing in the top 4 and selling his best players but in an easier league
7.Arry Redknapp : no thanks
8.Francesco Guidolin(udinese) :he is doing the same thing Wenger is doing with Arsenal , Finishing in the top 4 and selling his best players but in an easier league
9.Lucien Favre(Borussia Mönchengladbach) : great coach ,plays lovely football ,doing great with a small team in Bundesliga,I’d love him at Arsenal just not sure he’ll be better than Wenger
10.Jurgen Klopp(Borussia Dortmund) . read Lucien Favre
11.Alex Ferguson : NO
12.Jupp Heynckes : Why leave Bayern , plus his release clause will be expensive
13:Rudi Garcia(Lille) : Maybe he is great or Maybe he is another AVB
14:Any Manager of top 20 National team : Joining Arsenal will be a step down
That about sums up the manager that are better than or the same as Wenger , Most of the are unlikely to join us or not good enough for us. the ones not mentioned are mostly unproven ,so we can’t really be counting on them to be better than Wenger .
I am not an AKB fan(maybe a little bit) , I think they should change some things and start to show a little more ambition ,they should take financial risks like the way they take football risks(eg not replacing Fabregas,relying on walcott) that and some other stuff.
Changing the manager won’t guarantee anything , we might end up like Liverpool having a shit manager and while spending lots of money on average player to suit his style of play . Althoug we are not winning trophies but we have had consistence for the past 7 years which means some tweaking will do us good than firing the manager. Thank you for reading my Essay
heh, how you see “a very little possibility” of pep guardiola joining us is beyond me I have to say…but I get your point.
Let’s assume it’s all arsene’s fault, selling our best players and not spending money on quality — then getting a new manager, who’d get rid of all the deadwood and make some quality additions, would solve our all problems. But I just don’t see the board sending this new bloke on a shopping spree, spending all the money which arsene has saved in the last couple of years…a thing people who are crying for the sacking of wenger should bear in mind, I suppose. And I would take this point even further and say that he people running this football club would be fucked big time without arsene — which actually doesn’t even speak in favour of him. But the way Arsenal is run at the moment makes Wenger indispensable imao….read into that what you will
A cheeky question. What you guys think about David Moyes?
So far he has done very well at Everton despite the lack of resources and have consistently punch above their own weight, have an excellent track records of finding talents where no one would think of, capable of developing players young and old.
His team are usually gritty but are not afraid to play football when it matters and usually a never say never attitude.
They look so lost out there….. I am a little lost too. No confidence, no game…. WTF!
What can you say, am not gonna blame djourou as this was the whole teams fault again. Absolutely no imagination from the midfield. Totally disorganised from back to front.
Have no idea where we go from here. we lost the battles all over the pitch and when we needed a response in the 2nd half it just didn’t happen.
We had no leadership, no one willing to win the battles, no heart and no idea. Wednesday we were outplayed today we were out muscled. This arsenal squad offers nothing in terms of fight and that’s criminal.All the talk before about we must respond, we owe the fans a response. Just cheap talk from overpaid, overrated prima donas.
Another 4 thousand odd fans mugged off again.
Clearly something needs to happen but I fear the will within the club to put things right and to make the sort of changes needed just does not exist.
And to all those that think 4th is now the holy grail.whats the point? To gain the money the we don’t spend? To attract the top players we don’t sign? Or to get through to the knock stages for a cup we can’t possibly win?
Sad sad day.
JD is crap
He may be crap, but tell me where was Vermaelen when Djourou made that foul that led to the first goal? He was left back and not anywhere inside our own half
Spot on.
this is the best of him. fuck.
http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/djourou-you-will-see-the-best-of-me-now
Well said bucko.
The last paragraph of yours, is so realistic that it hurt when I read it ):
I totally agree
…its gone
I simply can’t understand why no one from the team came to cheer the Ox up after the his unfortunate OG.
Also, Song, Djourou and Ramsey often complaining about the team for not getting balls etc. RvP was clearly frustrated after the 0:2. Not good!
Insecurity all over the place.
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Crap? His work rate was rather good compared to some others. At least he tried and never gave up.
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To blame the OG on the Ox is the most shortsighted thing I’ve read so far. No, he wasn’t good tonight, but you tell me where was his support to get rid of the ball? Not only that, watch Vermaelen jog back and leave Larsson alone, who hit the post. And maybe, just maybe, Wenger should throw him in central midfield seeing as our midfield is shit.
don’t be silly, he’ll just pass the ball backwards.
In all this are we really going to start bashing an 18 yr old kid who’s barely played any games?!?! He busted a gut to get back and cover after losing the ball 70 yards up the pitch and he was really unlucky that it went in after he tried to clear it.
I’m all for criticism of the management and the senior players who should know better, and are in fact the people who got us in this mess but in my view The Ox is blameless in this. Let’s get a sense of perspective and lay the blame with those who actually deserve it.
Exactement!
Gunner16 – I can’t believe you’re already turning on the Ox after about 5 games, most of which he’s been out best player even though he’s only 18. Maybe you were trying in part to be funny but you made yourself sound like an absolute tosser!
Leave the Ox alone
crap performace. again and again. brrrrr. arsenal are a talented bunch of losers. we’ll lose RVP next season for sure; possibly the only guy who really wants to win every match. this team is an embarassment to the invincibles. DB, Petit, Keown have said as much. It’s embarassing to be an arsenal fan. I can’t even enjoy the banter nowadays cause I have none of my own
We’ll lose him at the end of this season as Arsene needs to make his £20M profit in transfer each year and I can’t see him making that even if he sells the rest of the squad.
Wat a load of shit. As predicted out of all competitions in a week. We need half a new squad and not the dregs that float about at the end of the season on the last day of the transfer window but real quality. Wenger will not win a thing until he buys quality. Either that or he must go.
mostly agreed, but i’m beginning to think that wenger’s main problem is MOTIVATION. he doesn’t seem to be able to get his players up to give an appropriate effort on matchday. no heart, no balls, no leadership… result = no accomplishments. this current team effort is soul-suckingly depressing. beginning to think i’d rather have a moyes or someone that can at least get 100% out of our squad.
What a load of shite! Whatever happened to the real Arsenal? It’s Wenger’s fault, tolerating and persisting with underperforming and average overpaid players instead of properly strengthening the squad. I’m distraught at the great fall of a once mighty team through consistently inept managerial decision-making.
Can’t expect to win if the team is not giving the required effort. Lost count of the number of times a player received the ball surrounded by two or three and yet had no teammate available to relieve pressure. Absolutely no urgency. No one took ownership of the problem. So many players are letting themselves, the manager, the club and the fans down.
Too many injuries are mounting up. Can’t shake up the personnel until the end of season. Must concentrate on 4th now. Thankfully Chelsea’s defense is as disastrous as ours.
It’s a combination of things. This 4-3-3 offers no support in the middle of the field, and now that is is being exposed the players are just shipping it in. That’s why you saw NO midfield in the last 2 games. Unreal
Players have to run to offer support. If they don’t move, they are easily marked. If they jog, they are easily tracked. Players have to RUN. If Larson, Cattermole, Gardner and that ilk can run 10 m to press, then any of the midfield three can RUN to provide an easy outlet, or take up space in between the lines to provide a forward option instead of dropping deep to receive a 5-7 yard square ball only to restart the same puzzle from a slightly different position. It’s absolutely agonizing to watch this team play this way for 90 minutes.
Can’t understand why we persist with this 4-3-3 now that Fabregas & Na$ri have left, we have an abundance of players that I would class as a number 10 such as Arshavin, Rosicky, Van Persie and Wenger insists on playing them out of position, Add to that Walcott who clearly wants to play up front being shifted out wide and there is no wonder we look unbalanced. My fear is that Walcott will get fed up playing out on the wing and see out the last year of his contract next season and go to a team that will play him up front regullary and bang in a hat full.
Think it is time we started playing to the strength of our squad and not some pipe dream of how the manager would like us to play.
Walcott, Arshavin, squilaci, djorou, Ramsey, Rosicky, Denison, Bentdner, vela, Fabianski, almunia, Chamakh, park, diaby & Gibbs should all be sold in the summer – that’s 15 of a 25 man squad that are all shit. It’s not surprising we struggle…not good enough. To make matters worse I had to listen to those cunts on itv…most biased broadcasting ever…shocking
And sign own goal right?
agree with some on the list but whose gonna buy them?if anyone doesnt fucking release them.
fortunately only 5 of them played today, imagine if they all did?
And sign own goal right?
agree with some on the list but whose gonna buy them?if anyone doesnt fucking release them.
Couldnt watch the game but what the fuck i wtf did walcott do just saw his name mentioned twice once at sub and then being offside. Oh wait this is his final game on runs before putting one decent performance fuck it..
Agree about the commentary – I get the feeling that everyone is loving the demise of The Arse. Not sure getting of 15 of them is the answer though. Not sure we’re completely shit, but we have fallen a long way in just over 12 months. Barcelona last year does seem a long time ago.
I’ve said this on here more than once & it’s even more pertinent now we’re out of both Cups – finishing fourth would only paper over the cracks, & make the management think that the path they are taking us down is OK.
some of those 15 aren’t even included in the 25-man squad dumbass. Bendtner, Vela and Denilson are out on loan. Heck, Fabianski makes a decent deputy. Or what, you want Almunia as your back-up keeper? Go fuck yourself.
But that’s not to say you’re totally wrong.
Wenger: “the advantage of spurs is they are only playing in one league.”
Well now the fuck we are also playing in premier league only.
And as I recall they are still in the FA cup, expect Stevenage to go down by about 4 or 45 goals tomorrow.
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Because it is unheard of to watch the same game and have a different take on things? And even if the unanimous view was that he had a bad game, does he ‘need to go’ because of one bad game?
Dude, chill down. Just a sarcasm with some additional unreasonable reasons to support it. For those who want other players out.
Ok then..I couldn’t tell you were being sarcastic….but fair enough..
What a dick!
Correction – Gibbs, diaby & park – not shit just always injured or never seen play.
The second goal came from Vermaelen just jogging back and Larsson went right past him. By the time he looked it was too late. Even the few players I had faith in are killing us. This is pathetic, made to look like a championship side by Fulham, Swansea, AC Milan, and now Sunderland. WTF!
It’s fucking bullshit. It’s not losing or going out of the fa cup that really upsets me, it’s the fact that hardly any of the players cares. This is fucking arsenal football club.
I really am starting to think wengers time is up – first time I’ve ever said that.
Fucking rich useless couldn’t give a shit cunts.
I’m going to get ompletely blotto tonight. It’s thoroughly depressing being a gooner at this moment in time. The scumbags I’ll take us apart judging by this display .
To be fair, Ox chased down from right wing to our penalty area. Love this kid’s workrate. Where’s the other midfielders? I read at the official Arsenal website about Djourou saying that fans should expect his best on his prefered position. Fuck it, McDonald’s icon smile!
This probably won’t be popular but I actually didn’t think Djourou was awful today, bar giving away that stupid free kick (and considering who he was playing next to). Other than an OG and a somewhat flukey goal we weren’t exactly ripped apart at the back. I thought Ramsey and Arteta had shockers. Arteta had one against Milan too. He’s been a bright spot all season though, maybe it’s the playing in so many competitions for the first time in a long time?
Agree with this: Arteta was a huge disappointment. He has been probably our most consistent player until this week. I think he’s knackered.
One of Arsenal’s problems is the over-reaction to any defeat by our our strident and unobservant supporters. No wonder the players are demoralised.
An easy explanation for this defeat is that our players are tired and Sunderland’s were fresh. It was much more important to beat them last week than losing this game.
we pass backwards all the time. naturally we’ll get pressed in our own half then and since we’re a bunch of idiots; as soon as we’re pressed we lose the ball instead of playing beyond the pressure. TV had another bad game. wtf he’s overrated as hell. Djorou is so bad. Gervinho did nothing. Arteta was awful; he’s constantly being dispossesed. Ramsey and Walcott: If i go into them I’ll probably end up wwriting pages of critiicm.
Frankly; all these players if they’re playing well are a decent side- top 4. but they’re constantly playing badly. and this backwards. sidewards passing has to stop. Can we chant ‘ stop passing backwards’ at the next game?
At least I saw Rosicky worked hard despite being foul so many times. Fuck Howard Webb letting the game like fucking American Football.
Rosicky worked hard but he is not a good player. He hasn’t scored in years and his passing in the final third is inaccurate. Hard work and talent are required, not one or the other.
his shooting is awful but he’s STILL better than Ramsey
We played shit but what fucked me off the most tonight was not one of those over payed idiots went up and said to the OX dont worry mate this is not your fault.
What a bunch off shits to let a teenager trying his best to help out his team and they leave him to feel like shit.
We are nothing more than an expensive mid table team now so how do we pull it back.
Also well done to the travelling fans you have more pride than the team.
Every player on the team should look at Ox pick himself up, run the length of the field, and try to keep that ball out. Then they should look at Vermaelen jogging back with no effort whatsoever. The fact that an 18 year old winger is one of 3 guys chasing that ball down is just pathetic. Fuck this team
I am with you on that brother !!!
I totally agree
How noone consoled the Ox in the slightest is beyond me. Lad played his heart out, does it every game. He deserves better.
“Mental toughness, character, leaders, spirit” everything Wenger is telling us this team has is what’s missing in the team.
It´s easy to beat this Arsenal team. The only thing you need is 11 players willing to work hard and put the ball out for corners.
dont understand why people say AW has to go now, what manager will come in middle of the season and who would want to manage this pathetic team! hes the man for the job but with some changes to him
Wenger wont change.
H.P; don’t really agree with that. I think he will. I think he’s starting to show already. firstly a training ground tirade is uncharacteristic. then subbing of Walcott at half-time is something else he would rarely do. he might just be realising. shame it’s taken so long.
dont understand the dislikes because name me a manger who would come tommorow to arsenal? (a top class one that we deserve)
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But the point is that this season is over. Leaving it to the end of the season allows the club to do the two things they have repeated over the last few years.
1. Convince us that 4th is a title.
2., Start rumours about big name players to get the season ticket renewals in (notice how Hazard rumours have started again!)
Being out of the Champions League next season is no bad thing – even better if we avoid the Europa Cup but to just sit here and watch this rubbish week after week without any attempt to make a change is destroying a once great legacy.
Put Bouldy in charge for the rest of the season and take stock in the summer. To do anything less risks the sort of summer we had last year where players don’t know there team mates until the close of the transfer window.
Capello
Why is Hazard going to come to Arsenal, may my tongue turn black and fall out for saying this but here goes, Spurs are a more attractive proposition than we are right now
If this is Arsene’s “attacking” football, then he needs to go and FAST
Why is there a sudden influx of Joshes? *sigh…*
If you don’t mind Ive laid claim to Josh already.
Out of the FA cup on our way out the champions league lots of injuries,Spuds next,RVP looks set to leave and who is to blame him.
But look at the positives …. Oh Fuck.
No one’s going to take the blame, Wenger’s not leaving, the board are going to do nothing. The players will only talk. We can either stay calm and continue to support the club we love through these lean times or just go mental, vent a little and support the club we love through these lean times. Away fans were amazing as usual. Away performance/result was a pity as usual.
It’s all well and good saying ‘Wenger out’ or ‘sell half the team’….but it’s not happening so I am going to forget about today and hope next week brings something positive. As some love to point out, this sort of thing has been happening for a good few years now, there’s no point being shocked or angry. If you were expecting it to happen then why the surprise? It’s starting to resemble the mid 80s now but then in the mid 80s I never thought I’d see the day we’d go through an entire season unbeaten or that we could ever win the league. So our day will come, hopefully the angry mobs have hearts that are still beating in all those years’ time.
It’s legitimate to (at least) question AW though. And I am/was a fierce AW supporter.
AR feels like the mid 90s as well – manager sucessful initially, had lots of power/influence, wasn’t able to change his tactics, team overly reliant on talisman striker, lots of players brought in not good enough to wear the shirt.
Within 3 years of GG leaving, we did the League & Cup double…..
SuperAnderslimpar you’re absolutely right, I wasn’t defending the manager or giving up on the club. I was only trying to make the point that even if it takes a while, success is around the corner…we’ve always had it in cycles. Regardless of who’s in charge this isn’t the worst state the club has been in though it feels pretty close to our lowest lows.
A fellow Gooner told me in 1986 that Liverpool and man u looked like they were going to win every league title for the next 50 years…and the time it seemed like a decent prediction…..25 years later there are arguably 3 or 4 clubs who have a better chance of winning the league than Liverpool, who still remain a big club and attract good players despite being also rans almost every season.
Anyway if Wenger’s reign is nearing an end or even if he’s continuing on till 2014…I have always backed The Arsenal to come good and do well and I’ll continue to do so.
AR we both want the same thing. Sounds like you & I have been supporting the club for a lot longer than some of the people on here, & as bad as it seems now, we’ve been in bigger holes than thus ( as bad as yesterday was, it wasn’t Wrexham away or Millwall at home)
The only difference now is that we moved away from Highbury on the premise that we would be able to compete with the biggest & best clubs in world football. Our last year at Highbury, we knocked out Real Madrid & cam within 15 minutes of bearing Barcelona & winning the European Cup. What price for that this/next year.
Just one last point as well – does it make you mad as well about how much slack Liverpool seem to get? They haven’t won anything for 6 years, yet they don’t seem to cop half the flak we do? Let’s hope Cardiff turn them over next Sunday, otherwise all we will hear about is King Kenny & how he has revived their fortunes.
Liverpool were and always will be the darlings of the media and ‘the people of England’ whoever these people are. My take on the move and this premise of being competitive is that it was based on there being only 2 other big teams competing for all the major trophies. I don’t think the club had a plan B in case other forces emerged a la Man City/Chelsea etc. Which if true was extremely short sighted. Of course you can take the cynical view that they were only looking to make money of us fans and sell us a dream and again if that was indeed the case then it’s a pity.
But in all honesty I wish I knew what it was that would fix our club and make us all happy but I don’t and somehow this cure-all of get rid of Wenger, the board and half the squad doesn’t seem like a sensible thing to do regardless of the frustration and anger we all feel. I feel a big change is needed but then I look at Chelsea, a club where the owner is actively involved, a club where the squad gets revamped/improved regularly and where changes are made promptly when things go wrong and they’re hardly in a stellar position at the moment. So I’m a bit on the fence on this one and it’s not out of any loyalty to Wenger or any acceptance of mediocrity. I just hope for the best, whatever it is.
Wenger needs to go. Look at Sunderland and how Martin o’neil has revitalised them. The team clearly don’t feel that he can lift them anymore. Anyone can stand in the sidelines and swear at the 4th ref. perhaps guardiola?
well said
Why would Guardiola want to leave Barca for us? *sigh*
maybe to be challenged again? but i doubt he will want to come.
i know maybe its hard for english people to have a balanced opinion now, but capello would be the man now for us.
look back at his days at juventus! he clearly knows how to motivate a club team, and he knows what it takes to win cups
As much I respect Mr. Capello but he would be a devastating choice. For the reasons that he hasn’t managed a club for what seems like forever. With his footballing philosophy we pretty much need a total revamp of the whole squad from top to bottom.
Mediocre team lots of arses voiced their concerns earlier in the season only to get thumbs down. Now we can see they were right. Now Wenger kindly fuck off.
If you’re worried about being thumbs down then isn’t that a bit vain? I mean its not exactly someone replying to you, personally insulted you and said you belong to a mental institute.
Our wingers were invisible again. Where is the one two beautiful passing football? No body coming to help winger from midfield which usually allows them to break defenders from double team. It started to fade since last year where they still played those style few times. But this years, I only saw 2 or 3 times. Arteta dwells on ball, Ramsey dwells on ball (then lost it). The only players I can see triggring those passes: Rosicky, Song, RVP and.. nope, that’s it.
We _must_ buy a creative, technically superb midfielder in the summer. But who will come? Arsenal will have to pay big wages to get someone of the required quality.
Here’s the problem that needs to be fixed:
At the end of Last season, Ramsey was behind 3 players (at least) for the position he’s in now–Cesc, Nasri, Wilshire. This season, after one injury, he’s an automatic starter! I can’t understand why Wenger is persisting with him when he’s consistently, repeatedly shown himself not good enough to carry that burden in this team with the ambitions it has. He may be ready one day, but he’s not ready now.
At best, he’s another squad player being asked to perform regular duty next to other squad players. None of the midfield in front of Song has the quality to be the creative force needed–each player Wenger can name has his limitations, which makes Arsenal a much easier opponent to play than we’ve ever been.
Fourth place with this current squad (accounting or injuries) would actually be a laudable achievement for any manager. I hope we can stay there.
Goetze is the only player of quality I know of, but again he’s a kid who hasn’t really won anything. Maybe we should think about Kaka if we can sign him. we should have got Mata. damn arsenal and their stupid policies. and I think on a striker front: either Soldado or Higauin to replace RVP next season. not as good but the only way we’d get a replacement for RVP is if we sign Messi or Ronaldo.
Ah, Kaka. In our dreams! He’d be a great fit for the Arsenal, but there are so many hurdles to such a transfer that it can’t possibly happen. (Can it?)
As for Goetze, I’m not bothered by the fact that he hasn’t won anything. Neither has Ramsey, Arteta, Rosicky, et al. Now that Goetze has had a season-ending injury, he’s got Arsenal written all over him, doesn’t he? Wages would be the only problem there. (Let’s assume we achieve 4th this season.)
We simply need a playmaker. Cesc was the man, but he didn’t want to stay. Kaka would be fantastic, and we wouldn’t have to wait for him to mature. Does Goetze have the dynamism and technique to be that player? I haven’t seen enough of him, but some think he does.
RvP needs a partner in crime. Kaka? Goetze? Someone. Anyone with “super quality.”
Well ummm……….. Miyachi scored today
Yep. At least there is something to cheer on this evening, I mean morning, here.
i was pissed off on weds, but today fucked me right off. i can deal with the fact that we havent had a proper back four all season, i can deal with the fact we rarely keep clean sheets, i can deal with the fact that we get more injuries than any other team, but what i cant deal with is the fact that we’ve looked so shit attacking. the one thing im always proud of was the fact that we’re one of the best attacking teams in the league, but now even that is gone.. seriously wtf happened.
wheres our lethal counter attacks? where the threat in the final third? theo did nothing after coming on again.. the ox was a bit quiet, just like last game against sunderland, gervinho… ill be damned if i saw him take a player on, always a back pass. robin had no service so was playing as support striker.. for fucks sake, support striker!! rvp, the lad who finishes 9 out of 10 chances, a god damn support striker.. i couldnt believe my eyes.
bad bad bad bad bad week. just as bad as last year.. we dont learn from our misfortunes.. we just repeat them.. which is the definition of insanity. AW needs to do something.. clear out some players and bring in some experienced QUALITY. we lack it. we really do.. didnt wanna believe it, but after this week its too hard to ignore.
top 4 finish is a must now, Come on you Gunners, sort it out!!
To be fair, Gervinho did take a player on in the first few minutes. Remember when he ran past Sunderland’s right back and won a corner? Once the Coq went off, we were awful, but we were controlling the game in the first ten minutes and I actually thought we would win.
Offense and defense are related. With Squillaci and Djourou in the middle the whole team is shitting themselves. No penetrating runs from the back a la Koscielny or accurate long range distribution from Mertesacker. Just Squillourou moving the ball timidly and slowly back and forth and ultimately back to Fab for a long meandering hit.
Plus, the offense just isn’t good enough. Fabregas made everyone look good, Nasri was a good supporter, Wilshere was energetic and positive and I always loved the way Diaby glided past defenders for his usual half an hour per season.
We’re just not good enough. Wenger is too cheap and too loyal to bad players. Remember when great players were discarded as soon as they hit 30? No everyone is getting contract extensions regardless. Ridiculous.
I will disappoint you, but we haven’t played “good attacking football” for YEARS. Even with Nasri and co. we were playing tippy-tappy football without any bite. Slowly passing around, allowing the opposition to regroup, then putting in awful crosses (Sagna).
Of course it is even worse nowadays, so the past seems brighter, but the reality is, we haven’t played pretty football consistantly since about 2007.
Dare I say, since Adebayor left?
This team is probably the worst attacking team we have for sometime…
“…there was nothing. Nothing at all.We were nothing short of a joke.”
Pretty much sums it up for me.
I hope Wenger won’t use the pitch as an excuse. Sunderland players can play on that pitch, why can’t our players? That Segginngo can run as fast as our wingers, too. Stop moaning and treat our players like cry babies. We have technique, but we need toughness!!
Agreed dude. It’s one thing to be indignant about foul play but another thing to bang on about pitches or the weather if both teams have to endure the same conditions. As for foul play, perhaps one way of dealing with it is to tell players to expect it.
Rosicky worh hard !? Do me a favour his positioning was terrible that’s he got fouled ! All round awful.
What kind of position should he be when he intercepted the ball and getting all parts of his body being pulled? Shut up if you didn’t watch the game.
@Jimi. Do you realize he came on when we were chasing the game? And do you realize they were reduced to counters because he dominated the game? More perspective. Do you realize the last 2 games he started we actually won? How can a player with better technique and tactical awareness come on and play with so much heart only to be benched the next game? And if he is awful you’ll rather go with Ramsey, wont you? Are you deluded? Wenger out…wholeheartedly, thats what we all shoudl be saying. Guess I’ll get fewer thumbdowns than I got early season, January and last week.
More signings is not the answers to Arsenal’s problems. There’s a lot of quality players in that squad, including obviously a few of those we have out injured at the moment.
What we need is somebody who can install a determination and winning mentality in the squad to ensure that the best is got out of the players we have. We don’t have that any more, and you can’t just buy that. It’s truly sad times at Arsenal football club.
The ox needs to play on the left side! He isn’t the same when he play on the right.
Lost faith in the team and Arsene. Walcott and a lot more players should be let go come end of season. Built the team around Persie(if he decides to stay). Feel bad for the Ox but terrible of the players not to offer support after the OG
If that is the only response Arsene can get out of this team after Wednesday maybe it is time for him to go..
This is shockin lads.. i can’t see us turning our season around… we’re so one every team knows how to beat us now and in defense we’re like school kids… I just can’t see how Arsene can take us any further… I love the man but wonder how he’s gonna turn this one around…
one dimensional that is….
I am absolutely amazed that, having played Sunderland last week, an knowing the tactics they use, Wenger hasn’t come up with a system or way of playing against them. surely he knew they’d be full of work rate and defensive counter attacking. he is tactically inept.
But As long as we keep posting profits every yr it won’t matter. that’s what it’s all abt. arsenal are a business first, & a football club second. it’s an absolute disgrace the decline we are in.
I am totally sick of this team at the minute.
He very rarely changes his tactics anymore because he “believes” in his players and the way we play, Absolutely fucking absurd if you ask me
It’s time, it really is.
Wenger needs to go.
This Arsene is the same Arsene 10 years ago. This owner is NOT the same owner 10 years ago. Who need to go? The owner asks Arsene to play good cop, bad cop. “We have budget 40 millions” often fools Arsenal Support Union (or whatever it is). Fucking American owners, out!! Fuck Now!
Wenger got older, and got more egoistical – he cannot change. Football has changed, Wenger hasn’t. Simple as that. He needs to start a new project in a new team.
Bring back Dein?
Never thought I’d say this but at least half this squad aren’t fit to wear the shirt…feel sorry for our superb away support,let down in shocking style for the second time in a week,spending their hard earned cash watching a bunch of ‘don’t-give-a-fuck’ prima donas who’ve obviously been told by Wenger that they really are great players.Play like that next week & we’ll be embarrassed far worse than in Milan.
How many players from today’s team would make our first team from 2004?? When you answer this you know how serious our crisis is and more importantly you know who is to blame…….The Arsenal fans did not build this squad and team.
Sorry to mention this old chestnut but we had world class midfielder in Cesc under contract and we let him go cheap and did not find a replacement with same ability this shows no ambitions.
Now we are really paying the price for losing world class players every season and completely failing to replace them. From being one or two players away fom greatness in 2008 we now need a complete overhaul of the current squad.
Wenger has failed Arsenal Football Club by placing faith & loyalty in his players before the club itself. Unfortunately there does not seem to be anybody at the club who has the balls to point this out. Instead we just meander through until February then implode season after season.
I’ve been on of the biggest supporters of le Professor and am grateful for how he has revolutionised our game. However it is now clear that we’ve gone as far as he can take us. It is time for a change and for me, we could do a lot worse than appointing Fabio Capello as manager with Bould, Keown or even the great DB10 assisting him.
So long & thanks for all the fish!
On Thursday I had to write a match report about the Milan game as a job application – imagine how enjoyable that was.
But the loyal/naive fan I am I just had to watch today’s game as well.
I feel so let down by the players/manager/board this season. This team has never been in such a terrible shape. I could deal with not winning titles, because over the last seasons we always played good football and came close. This season we are not winning anything by a mile.
I’ve always been a huge supporter of Wenger, but nowadays I’m not sure anymore. Why on earth does he bring on Walcott when Sunderland are in front and sitting back? His pace is completely useless in that kind of situation and we all know that he has no trickery at all – it’s shocking and not the first tactical mistake this season.
As for transfers, well I’d rather not stir that sh*t up. And as far as injuries go – I just can’t believe it’s bad luck anymore, because you can be unlucky for one, two, maybe three seasons, but anything which goes beyond that isn’t misfortune anymore, it’s inability to cope with it and change something about it.
I think as supporters who invest time/money/love into the club we deserve something more.
feel bad for arsene.. hes put his faith in the team and they’ve given him nothing back. its easy to call for arsenes head, but given his decisions today, nothing else he could do tbh.
the only area he has failed for a couple seasons is buying. the board says we have funds, then he doesnt spend. so either the board are lying, or arsene isnt buying. frustratingly, we dont know whose right!
love the man, but he needs to realise that enough is enough, time to change tac, ditch some dead weight and bring in some quality. dont even need that many players, if he offloads 4-5, bring in the same number of proven players and watch the difference it makes.
Spot on. He is accountable for a lot of stuff, but the players let him down this week.
You are typical of the idiot Wenger-lovers. Who the fuck do you think is responsible for ‘dead weight’ and other shit in our squad? The fucking buck stops with him. He won’t do fuck-all because his past it.
Wake the fuck up! Wenger is to blame!
if im a typical wenger-loving idiot, then youre one of those typical quick-fix-sack-the-manager type of fans that we see around a lot these days. yes we’re all tired of this shit, 7 years is a long time, but you cant lay all the blame at wengers feet.
i agree with the fact that he needs to sort the team out and get rid of some players and bring some quality in – a point i mentioned earlier, but why dont you tell me what another manager would’ve done different today? or even on weds night besides starting ox (which is easy to say in hindsight)? he doesnt need to be sacked, and more importantly, he doest deserved to be sacked, what he does need is some challenging of his authority – when pat rice leaves, bring in someone like tony adams, someone to tell wenger we need to strengthen; need a board that invests in the club they hold so dear, need stan or usmanov to inject some capital, be more proactive than to just sit there saying “dang” when things go wrong..
all im saying is this, the club is bigger than the manager, whilst the manager is responsible of the clubs performance to an extent, much more happens behind the scenes that we dont know of which can limit or affect his actions, and after a decade+ of damn good service, if wenger needs a year or two more, im willing to give it to him as no one else would’ve kept us in the top 4 all these years during our shift from highbury to emirates – and that too without an investment for new players.
@AGunner You said
“youre one of those typical quick-fix-sack-the-manager type of fans”
And then you said ” 7 years is a long time”
Hmm.
@coldhardreality – all I’m saying is we need some consistency, we went from 17th to 4th and people saying Wenger is a genius, a real bad week and again he’s the villain. As frustrated as I get, with a cooler head when I think back to the last 7 years, we have had some rotten luck too:- carling cup last year kos and szcz mix up, rvp being sent off at barca, injuries (where do I even start!), penalty decisions this season etc. it’s as if whenever Wenger takes even a bit of a gamble on something, we’re always punished severely and it’s a hard pill to take, there’s only so many contingency plans a manager can have.
Those that want AW out won’t give a shit, but I can’t help feel bad for the guy, even though my hearts been broken more times than I can count over the past few years, I can’t help but feel that when we do click and do come good, we’ll be unstoppable for the following decade.
Keeping the Faith, COYG!
EXACTLY. Wenger had it coming, we should have replaced the core problems in the team after the 4-4 draw with Spurs. That wasn’t today, guys. Since then, our team mentality has only regressed to even lower. We gave more and more chances to players like Diaby and Djourou since then, rather than being ruthless. Did they let Wenger down? Only from a certain perspective. The bigger picture is that Wenger has been let down several times, and failed to avoid the next ones.
@fatgooner
Can I say everyone is entitled to their opinions. No matter how old you might be, throwing insults like that just makes you seem childish and void your arguments.
We are seriously SHOCKINGLY bad!
Just a year ago we we had the ability to beat the best team in the world, and on merit too, and now we can’t even compete in matches against mid-table teams
WENGER PLEASE SPEND SOME FUCKING MONEY!
Wenger has just spent some money. He extended Djourou’s contract.
It doesn’t matter who he buys. It’s the tactics, motivation, discipline organisation and coaching. It all stems from one man.
So with Mertesacker,Koscielny,Squillaci injured , we are getting even closer to erm… erm Monteiro?
We seriously need a big reconstruction of the whole organisation during the summer. Not only the team. The philosophy aswell. If we continue like this, there things might get even worse, and I don’t even want to imagine that happening.
The big dilemma will be the top four. If we can’t get in, it will be even harder for us to change things up.
Whatever happens, things just have to CHANGE.
I don’t even know where to start. Ridiculous performance today. Not only today either.
Im fed up.
Start with the only place STAN
Yes………..
I dont know what to say really…. this is just horrible.
Aint we supposed to be a “top” club?
And for a top club a trophy aint a fucking bonus, its what they aim for every season. I would really like some answers for this board and manager why we aren’t reinvesting, not some stupid riddles for an answer about our self-sustainable model.
We are officially fucked. There goes another season.
Wenger loves to use statistics to make decision. Why don’t he use statistics on how many times Walcott lost the ball, disposed, misfiring, miscross, run onto defenders times not tracking back times inconsistency divide by number of goal he scored and that will equals to… 25k salary per week.. fuck 90k, keep on dreaming Walcott. Ramsey, too.
I head Diaby sometimes wears Spuds shirt at home, fuck, he can go too.
Supported them for 25 years but this lot aren’t getting a penny more of my cash. AW signs em, pays em, ‘motivates’ em and trains em and on that display he is failing on all counts.
There is something at grass roots level that is not right at arsenal – never thought I’d say it but it’s time for wenger to move on.
same old same old. Every year we seem to be taking a step backwards with top players leaving and not getting top replacements.
I get the feeling that Wenger isn’t allowed to do everything he wants…
He should resign on principle then.
Yes… And speak up.
I’m fearing a bolloxing at the hands of spuds later this month – all our injuries, lack of effort and run of form I’m thinking may end in calamity yet again
Despite how shitty we played…Sunderland still needed two own goals to get past us today.
That’s alright then. The mighty Sunderland humbled for sure.
Depressing. I’m sick of the bloody passengers. We can never play without carrying some bloody passengers. What’s happening now is that even the ones who have been good all season have started losing it, and well, the passengers won’t step up either. Now every one looks shit.
And in my opinion, Arsene’s not been terrible, he’s being let down. What else can he do, there’s no system in football that would make the players I have seen this week look good. Yes, he’s the one that put these players together, but which one of you lot did not think at some point that Theo was going to be a great player. Show yourself. Noone. But Arsene, just one thing. I’m with you till I die, whether everyone is calling me a stupid f**king idiot or not, but you’re definitely doing something wrong too. Fix it, because this is not The Arsenal we all love. I’m talking make these players play for their lives, and do an overhaul in the summer. Work them, make them prove themselves. And whoever doesn’t please just let them go. We have sunk low enough, forget the money. I’d trade Park for nothing, I haven’t seen him, he’s worthless to me.
Arsenal till I die, this has been the season from hell… But that’s enough, we scrap from here, fight for fourth and make our way back where we belong. This is The Arsenal. We are bigger than money can buy. CYOG
Its all very well saying Wenger must go, no one is suggesting any names for his replacement. Whoever does it it will require a complete overhaul of the team.
But it will take a couple of years
Pep
Pep doesn’t know.
All season long I’ve been slagged off for daring to suggest that Wenger should go. Is there anybody here who wants to argue with me now?
The most depressing thing about our current situation is that it was entirely predictable. After the debacle at the end of last season it was clear that our brilliant manager had completely lost the plot. But instead of sacking him and moving on, the Board allowed him another year to continue ruining the team. And he has duly obliged.
The sad and incredible thing is that even after this shower of shit, the Board will probably not get rid of him. And certain arseholes on he website will still blindly back this past-it French idiot.
The future now is a new manager. I would love to see ‘The Special One’ take this summer. I don’t expect it, though.
I love you fatgooner
Thank you
I agree that it’s time for Wenger to go. I don’t see the relevance in mentioning his nationality is derogatory terms. “…this past-it French idiot.”
We don’t have a ‘board’ we have an ‘owner’m who is silent & bough self sustain arsene
By the way I was in Milan chatting to Adrian chiles who said he was chatting to david Dein woohoo WAS ther unlike our ‘owner’
You were chatting to that know nothing Gloucester Old Spot with a Brillo pad on his head? Shame on you. The whole ITV team need burying in what the real Gloucester Old Spot does best, preferably with Townsend at the bottom. The next time Chiles waddles up for a chat just tell him to FUCK OFF.
You are fat.
Wenger himself should and must take the responsibility of this mess but please make a point without insulting.
Despite all the force him out hype at this moment, I had a good memory of Wenger and I won’t insult him. And if he does go, I will thank him for everything he did.
Maureen only works for billionaires…
We’ve got two
Yes, sack Wenger. Then get who?
Don’t forget the board ultimately decides who to hire and ultimately allocate funds for transfer and wages. With the board as it is, I fear Arsenal might end up with a worse manager than Wenger if he was to go. Will the board pay extra for a top manager? Will they bow to new demand of a new manager?
Look at what happen to Liverpool after Benitez left. It took them 2 seasons to gain back lost momentum, lost key players and spending ridiculous amount of money on an average set of players. Still they’re worse off after letting Benitez go.
In a way you’re not far off from a politician. Moans and complain about change but have no complete answer but ridicule anyone who disagree with you.
Henry got the heart pumping once more. Now he has gone we flatlinned. Viagra won’t cure this limp cock. Time to replace the limp French prick.
Now that shit cracked me up, well done.
yer but we cant be relegated……we must be the only team to make shit teams look like world beaters…wenger is turning us into a joke…bye bye weng,fresh blood
The Arsenal likes it quick
two cups in a week to quit
Remember the last year…
Sad, sad days.
We’re not Blackburn. Let’s get behind The Arsenal.
P.S: Hats off to the away fans – singing their hearts out, even when we’re losing.
My version of getting behind both the team and the best away support in the country is to admit the Wenger era was great while it lasted, but when Cesc and Nasri left and were not remotely replaced, it ended. Watching a team get outworked game after game. Watching as an 18 yo kid looks like the only player who gives a fuck we’re out of another competition. This is the most pathetic, dull, ugly, and dispirited football I’ve seen from Arsenal, it’s over. And that fucking kit makes me seasick.
Second that comment about the kit. Anyone notice how rubbish the Gunners are when they have rubbish kit? (I’m not joking, I’m serious!)
To be a top club, We have to play like top club,[every week] Sunderland wanted it more than us.New sunderland manager comes in and pats them on the back, a new team. Our players need a good fu####g up the crack
The Arsenal i remember was the best away team ever. We always did so well, infact it was our home form that was sometimes wanting, but now we really suck away. i don’t know why because we have what i think are the best away fans in football, it’s our home fans that can tend to be ungrateful at times!
Mark my words though. The boys know it, i saw it in the Verminators eyes. They want this and those sp*ds aint getting shit!
And Howard Webb, I hate you. I wish you haemaorrhoids from hell.
The last “bad” Arsenal side in recent memory was the one that had McGoldrick, Hillier, Morrow and Jensen in midfield…and they won 3 major trophies. This side has no backbone and is worse than 1993 Arsenal. It is almost as bad as the abject 1976 side that Terry Neill inherited and the god awful bloated squad he left behind in 1983. Please Arsene, before you decimate your impressive legacy, walk away and let the rebuilding commence…even if it means a couple of “progressive” years in the doldrums a la the Don Howe seasons.
Stevus that 76 team finished 16th. We’re currently 4th.
Agree with your principle though, there is some major renovation that needs
to take place, particularly if Perse goes.
Back to yesterday though- wonder how that game pans out if Webb gives that pen against RvP. Who knows, maybe we win that game 1 0………
True. 16th out of 22 back then in the top flight. We were relegation possibles then, as in 1995, so in hindsight my statement of “almost as bad” was too strong. That said, I fear the only 4th we’ll be finishing this year is in the mini-league of Liverpool, Chelsea and Newcastle. At least Europa League, if we even make it, will break the cycle of Groundhog Seasons. For all that, there is nothing I’d like to see more now than a 10 game winning run a la 1998, but when I look at the personnel I know it is impossible.
I think we all should say our goodbyes to captain vantastic .. we don’t deserve him.
It is falling into black hole… We need a miracle to stop it in that circumstances.. old tired clueless coach, greedy board, unconcern owner, pathetic overpayed and overestimated team without balls but with long contracts……. do you remember, newcastle was great as well
I was in mian, disgusted then & now… Sunderland are crap we pass sideways, no idea at all now to win as dennis said…
No direction from the top as we have silent spazz who does nothing like his crap st louis rams… A fish rots from the top down, we are stinking, our club is at its worst maybe since norris moved us from woolwich, this man is our black death, fizman sold his self sustain for £120m we are left with ‘same old’ …. Arsene is totally delusional but his success was a double act with Dein, so wots stan our OWNER going to do? He has no clue how can he? He bought self sustain arsene, WISE up everyone.. We have to get rid of stan…. Usmanov has everything lined up I can assure you for everything you & I dream of….
It’s up to us now… STAN OUT OUT OUT FUCK OFF YANK
Oddly enough, I’m not as upset about this game as the Milan debacle.
I saw some players working hard and making some tackles (TV5, Chambo, even one or two from Rosicky, who I’m not convinced about). Also, I refuse to fault Chambo for that own goal. The kid worked hard today and my mind is still fresh with the visual of him jumping into a tackle, getting up, seeing a loose ball and then promptly lunging back in on another Sunderland player.
It’s true. We need a new mindset for this team. Cunts like Cattermole will continue to take liberties with our team until we stand up for ourselves and kick him back!
Webb’s not going to call many fouls, so you have to understand this and stand up and fight for the badge.
I can handle losing if the players honestly fought hard and made a good effort. I din’t like it, but I can handle it.
This was a poor performance. Wenger needs to change things, and the team needs to play like Arsenal men.
Remember who you are, what you are and who you represent.
Wat a disappointin perfomance by the team! Its like last season’s League Cup final all over again…smh..
It just feels as though Wegner has made a number of wagers in recent years having been dealt considerably worse cards than the managers of the other top six teams. Thinking Diaby and Wilshire would return from injury and thus take away some of the pressure on Ramsey; hoping Ramsey would rise to the challenge this year the same way Wilshire did last year; hoping VP would stay ft all season; hoping at least one of Walcott, Gervinho, or Arshavin would score the goals we lost with Nasri/Cesc; thinking that finally signing someone tall would make us stronger at the back; thinking Gibbs would be fit for more than two weeks in a row. Of these only one has worked out for him.
A smarter bet would have been for him to gamble on a world-class midfielder and another proven striker who could play wide as well.
Arsenal allowed the opposition six shots on target this week (Milan five, Sunderland one) yet conceded six goals – BBC Sport
Because our defence lets them into the perfect positions to score from! I remember Seaman batting away shots all day long, but they were not allowed anywhere dangerous because Adams and co would fling themselves in the way of the ball if they did. I Watched Vermaelen actually get out of the way of Milan’s 2nd or 3rd goal.
WTF happened to old arsenal? Why we should keep wenger? Seriously look at chelase, how they fired managers when they didn’t win…. Even when winning sometimes change is necessary. We need 6-7 world class top players to compete with the likes of Madrid and Barcelona. Look at the players we got for god sake….. Its very funny how we expect anything from them…. U heard it first here that we not making 4th this year. That’s not gonna happen the way we performing….. Fuck I’m so pissed here….. Fuck wenger….. Bring Mr mourino and give him big cash to buy real fighters
I don’t think any of us have ‘heard it here first!’
You heard it here first, Arsenal will not win the FA Cup this year
I seem to recall a similar result in the cup against Manure in the not so distant past. Another Saturday evening kick off in the FA cup that we couldn’t be arsed with.
Get some English players. oooo we have the best players. BUT NO BALLS
The lack of effort is inexcusable but what really terrifies me about Arsenal now and for the future is that tomorrow morning Silent Stan will look at the books and think everything is just fine.
Exactly. A massive loss (or even 2 in 4 days) can be seen as temporary. But my fear is much bigger than that, our future is at stake.
The team aren’t playing for the manager, which is worrying enough, but after the massive bollocking he gave them on Thursday and they still won’t play for him then its totally desperate
Arsene’s ‘massive bollocking’ is probably less than the under 8’s would get. I don’t even think Pat Rice could shout loud enough at some of these guys. Get keown in to scream in their faces like he did at Van Nistelrooy.
I can’t believe we had to listen all season to how arteta keeps things ticking over as an excuse for his his total lack of creativity. He was brutal again tonight. I hate him. I know most dislike this guy but why has arshavin never been given an opportunity to play through middle.he’s bloody good in that position for Russia. Why were miyachi and frimpong put out on loan when our mid field are so shit
I didnt expect anything but a loss when I saw Squilaci coming in, he is so bad…
and Recall Lansbury from West Ham ASAP.
I was always taught as a young lad by my grandfather(who has passed) that IF YOU DONT WORK,YOU DONT EAT.Too many Arsenal players do not believe in this statement and hide behind the fact that we are loosing because of the board,AW,injuries etc.They need to understand hard work gets you what you want and what you deserve.You are playing FOR ARSENAL and playing at Arsenal .Try to make a new era instead of making a cv for yourself.We need winners not w*=k£!s ,fighters not fairies,pride and passion. Most of this current squad need to grow some or let them drop properly.OR WHY DONT YOU JUST TRY PROOVING A GROWING NUMBER OF US FANS W R O N G…
They just make too much money to think that way now, I mean Theo who’s what 23 could quit tomorrow and he’d have enough money for life, his kids lives, and their kids. It’s down to the manager to know how to motivate and Wenger’s clearly lost this team.
Disappointed again, but I will not join the rabble with all this Wenger Out Stan Out garbage. Yes I will admit that we should have done better in the transfer windows; however, the reason that we did not buy was as Arsene said, what are we going to do with all these fullbacks if we buy and the ones we have come back healthy. This injury crisis is to blame. Perhaps we have weak players who can not learn to tough it out and play through a knock, but I think we have just been extremely unlucky this season and last with injuries. It is absolutely crippling the squad, the chemistry between the players has broken down as no one is getting to play with the same healthy lineup week in and out. I am not ready to want Arsene out, because I look at it like this, What other manager would have been able to deal with all of these injuries? the answer is no manager… I don’t even think other clubs that have suffered injuries (chelsea, ManU) come close to the extent and duration of our injury crisis. AFC will not fire Wenger midseason and I hope he decides to return, but only on the condition that the club give him all the money he “WANTS” not needs, I feel he should have come to some realization that the squad’s depth cannot compete when the injuries are this way and so we should scrap the garbage players on the payroll and build our depth up with top class. Just last week I was excited about the youngsters on the team and was looking forward to them growing in to world beaters, I still feel that way…. I’m just sick of all this negative shit after every loss, with all these injuries it has to be expected, but it seems to never help.
The injuries are down to Arsenal FC, not luck, not gypsies, not lasagne. Arsene built this team, built the training ground, laid the turf, brought the physios in. Injury crisies every fuckong year are down to his choices and his strategy. The buck stops with him unfortunately. The perfect example of Wenger’s player purchases from the past 4 years is Amaury Bischoff. He bought a player who was chronically injured, spent more time in physio than on the pitch and who fucked off as soon as he was well enough to play somewehere else. Why the fuck would he do that? I honestly think he is mental.
bye bye RvP :/
I really believe people need get off TV’s back, he is a world class defender make no qualms about it, but he is just so demoralised right now, that his performances are suffering because of that, he has a manager and asst. manager that just sit on their fucking arses shaking their heads all game, the only time they get up is if a foul is made/not made. Arteta was shocking again today, i like him a lot but wtf has this team done to him, this bullshit about formations is annoying me cos it shouldnt make people fail to give 100%, same shit ever since we started losing warriors like Sol, Keown, Vieira, Ljungberg, Gilberto, Parlour and Ca$hley (dont anyone say he didnt give 100% every game) and we started replacing them with Hleb, Rosicky, Denilson, Chamakh, Clichy, Walcott and i wont include diaby because of Dan Da Cunt Smith ruined him but he was never blessed with desire anyway.
All in All, this season has been a long time coming and we all know it, Keown knows it, Ian Wright knows it, Adams knows it and DB10, TH14, RP7, Lee Dixon and many many others, including JOSE twat Mourinho, that is why the likes of our legends are nowhere near involved at the club in the way some other clubs keep the winning spirit around as long as possible.
I really hope a like for like swap of walnut for sturridge happens in the summer, it’s not working at arsenal for walcott and sturridge is growing tired of being a wide man at chelsea. chelsea get a pacy wide man and we get a solid second striker who, at 22 has bags of potential. If we don’t have the cash in summer a swap shop could happen!
I like getting sturridge for walcott, but can our back 4 handle Walcott’s speed. I hate giving our competition more ammo; however, it’s not like Theo is very dangerous when he is not playing with RvP… it’s an interesting swap
that’s the issue, but if walcott is still as ineffective as he is here then we shouldn’t pose a threat aside from his pace while sturridge is banging in goals
What r u talking ’bout??? We only sign “super quality” players.
Groan….. :-#
For me, we’re playing a brand of football that is too much for some of the players in our team to handle. The 4-2-1-3 formation has suited Arsenal over the past 4 years because it was built on creativity and technical supremacy in the midfield. And you have to say, it worked last season: We beat Barcelona – and for me it was the best technical performance Arsenal have ever produced under AW.
But when players like Rosicky, Arteta, Gervinho – who are all good players in their own right – are harried in the way that Sunderland players harried them today, in my opinion they didnt have the quality to play their way out of trouble like we had last year. I think the argument about leadership is a valid one, but I just think that Arsene has let us deteriorate quality-wise this year. (Maybe he thought Fabregas and Nasri would stay – I really don’t know)
And this goes back to the loss of Fabs, Nasri and Wilshere. The latter unpreventable loss has fucked up our season and Arsene did not move quickly enough to replace the loss of world-class. The likes of Mata, Alvarez, Goetze all eluded us and we’re paying for it.
I can’t understand why Theo was brought on over Arshavin. Did Arsene not learn his lesson from last week that you need to put on a playmaker to unlock this kind of defensive team? And cue Theo who did a remarkable fuck all once again. For me, only Alex Song was able to feed the ball through the gaps. Adding Rosicky into the mix – forced to by circumstance, though, is a pure case of attrition for me, he really does fuck all (the only time I’ve seen him deliver a killer ball was to Arshavin in a match at the emirates 2 years ago against Blackburn when he split their backline open with a outer-righted footed pass, that’s it though) – Why not replace Ramsey with Arshavin? – It’s his most effective and natural position!!
Arsene didn’t buy in January and surprise, surprise, the team is collapsing once again like everybody in the world – except for Arsene Wenger – could see quite plainly. I am now convinced that Arsene acts decidely against public will – maybe the word ‘public’ has too many connotations with the ‘masses’ and the ‘commoners’ for Arsene to take seriously.
I actually don’t care that much about trophies at this juncture – I care for the future of the club which is hanging in the balance
NONE of them learn ANY lessons, they just give media lip-service then its back to normal. Shit team, shit board and a manager that appears more and more restricted day by day.
The worst fucking part about our recent crapness is the fact the stupid, 1961 cunts seem to think trolling comments etc is fun.
Haven’t won anything worth talking about for much longer than us yet they think being above us in the league for the first time in 15 years is enough to start acting Billy Big Bollocks.
Fucking tards
Blogs, console yourself in knowing that the position they are coming in their pants to be in, is one that we consider to be the bare minimum.
Is squillachi the worst player we have ever had, shit even Stepanovs had a decent run of clean sheets before the 6-1 man U humiliation. No spine.
I need whiskey!!!
unfortunately blogs, it hurts that they now play the football that we played better than anyone when overmars was with us, and for me that counter attack football is the one system that can beat absolutely any class of team around including barca 2009-2010, if u hav da right players such as monkey bale (he reminds me of overmars, quick with and without ball and has quality finish/cross alot of the time), it is very hard to defend against.
I’m truly as worried bout NL Derby next week as i was pre match Old Trafford, we all know what happened there, but this time there is no closing down sale where he can appease fans with few purchases.
Honestly though, can u see this summer being comfortable watching?
I know how you feel blogs.. look at it this way, when twitchy leaves, im sure they’ll be back to where he found them.. *cough* relegation
also hate utd fans.. who are they to say anything to us? we progressed further in the fa cup than them, further in the CL than them, and it doesnt look likely they’re winning the PL this year either, so they’re gonna be just as trophy less as we are so they can fuck right off too.. hope they drown in their own debt and get banned from future CLs lol.
Fucking well said blogs!
I agree completely. In my opinion it is worth leaving the pathetic trolling from these cunts up on the board though, along with the best retorts. Slightly restores the faith and the equilibrium.
Firstly 15 yrs in Cl, spuds only once .Arsenal have MORE money ,MORE fans ,MORE class ,MORE style ,MORE trophies ,better stadium, better history.Lets face it ,your not realy rivals, your just our neigbours that happen to have kept to same level as previous dry years,when all off the BIG clubs are in transaction.Thats why when we are having an off period it is big news.PS Harry is a boyhood GOONER as many of spuds players.The real comptition for spuds is Coronation Street… 50yrs and counting…………………..need i say MORE !!!!!!
The only odd thing at this point is that I’m going to keep watching our games. As for the rest, no surprise, if we lose, when we lose, there’s only this cold bitternes for a reaction. I could pick myself to think of the next season but you know what? I did that last summer, no more. What I would like to see, dare I say demand as a fan, is a firm reaction to this disaster of a season from: the owner, the board, the players, Arsene Wenger, in this exact order.
I have nothing to say really, you are all saying it for me.
totally gutted and sick of these ‘performances’.
Arsenal, when are you going to DO something?
“sigh”
we need to finish 5th,only way things will change or should we keep the rose tinted specs on & think everything will be fine next season or the season after that.if you wanna win things you need to show ambition or otherwise why bother ,just settle 4 top ten spot.
I must admit that watching Wenger switch to 4-4-2 after 45 minutes in Milan and after 53 minutes in Sunderland smacks of desperation. Crucial moments in the season when we need a goal and we switch to a system the players aren’t familiar with! It’s a damning assessment of our (lack of) ability to create chances through the midfield in the 4-3-3.
Furthermore, I cannot for the life of me understand why Walcott was brought in to play central forward in this situation. There was no room behind Sunderland’s back four to run into. I know it’s easier in hindsight, but for me, Arshavin is the man to place in the hole behind RVP in the 4-4-2. It’s his natural position and he played superbly there against Bolton in an earlier Carling Cup tie.
We don’t need pep, ‘the special one’ or any other big name journeyman. Move Arsene upstairs and bring in Frank de boer and DB. Dennis, of all people knows what it’s like to win things with Arsenal and FDB has the coaching experience. May also sway RvP next summer having a compatriot in charge rather than some old failure who’s full of hot air.
Exactly…
Hope DB 10 gotten over his fear of flying… Can’t have him driving to our Nigeria tour
I have a sneaky feeling Bould will be our version of Pep…
The facts are if spurs get 2nd 3rd or 4th at the end of the season they will have won exactly the same as us… Fuck all.
Write down our trophy haul and then theirs. And see if they would swap. They are just scratchers whose history is in black and white.
…but they are on the way up, and we are descending rapidly. FFW a couple of years like this, and then see who has won something. You want to wait that long? Action now.
Yeah they may be better than us for a couple of seasons, but they have no youth squad, Harry disbanded the reserves and when he leaves them they’ll be in the same state as all the other clubs he’s left- fucked.
fed up of this shit now. There’s serious work to do with this team. It’s just getting all too predictable. I really hope something happens within the side to kick their arses into gear.
My money is still on an Arsenal player to lift the FA Cup. Bolton vs Sunderland final. Miyaichi vs The Greatest Striker that Ever Lived TM.
Well, what a week. And strangely familiar.
My biggest concern is the lack of flexibility in the formation/personnel as a match clearly heads tits-up. Sadly, that buck stops with AW. I can´t understand what he was expecting at Sunderland tonight having played there in the league a week ago.
Did he think the pitch was going to be re-laid and rolled like a carpet? Did he expect Sunderland to stand back and watch us play? And at what point in the match did he see Walcott as the answer? A guy with sloppy control who is best on the break, playing on a minefield against a packed defence?
I kind of have the impression that the manager is making a point to the board here (much like Benitez was accused of doing in his final season at Anfield), “Look at the lack of options you´ve left me with…”.
Today´s match was always going to be an attritional affair; we needed battlers (but do we have any?), a gameplan that allowed us to be direct, force Sunderland to make the same mistakes we did in their final third, and instead we got a selection of talented but jaded ball players who rarely looked threatening for the second “big” game in a row. We couldn´t have been any worse going route one to Chamakh with Young and Arshavin running off him for knockdowns and flick-ons (and RVP would´ve had a much-needed rest).
Would sneaking 4th place with the current squad and qualifying for the CL solve more problems than it would create if the board is really refusing to release funds and back the manager financially? Just think about it for a second…
Truly grim. But we´ll be up for the next one, and this bunch of individuals will get another crack at regaining our affection. They better bust a bollock trying.
COYG
I’ve tried to be optimistic, but it’s getting hard to do. The quick possession passing game just doesn’t work without the right personnel and we need a new philosophy. Fabregas was a ridiculously talented midfielder who allowed us to play the possession game effectively, but without him we have nobody that dictate a game from midfield and deliver passes that can split open a parked bus. So we just pass back and forth right around the half way point and a lot of the time we misplace easy passes in that area that lead to glorious chances for the opponent.
I remember watching this team at times last year and thinking Cesc stood out like a sore thumb. Even though he wasn’t 100% most of the year you could tell he was the heartbeat of the entire Arsenal philosophy and we just have nobody that can replace him. Hell there isn’t anybody that could be legitimately bought that that could replace Fabregas in our system.
I’m not necessarily saying Wenger has to go, but we really need a change of philosophy. The short passing game will work against some minnows, but otherwise it simply can’t work without at least one world class midfielder. Just think about the goals we’ve scored against top teams, I can’t think of any that were a product of our short passing game unlocking the defense. They pretty much all have come on quick counter attacks when the opposing team is pushing forward.
Although I’m not happy about the teams play or direction I still will never concede defeat to fucking Sp*rs, I will never go into a game against them @ the Emirates expecting to lose.
The only positive I can get out of this, is that hopefully this will finally be an eye-opener…
And 8-2 wasn’t? Or being below spurs? Or not winning anything for 5 years? I agree, the hope that this is ‘a slap in the face’ is the only thing which makes this bearable, but i fear the club is now a business, and as long as we turn a profit the shareholder is happy with, nothing will change. Time for action.
That’s why is said finally. And that’s what I meant with an eye-opener. Couldn’t agree more: time for action.
If the 4-4 against Spurs a few years back wasn’t an eye-opener (when we gave up a two-goal lead against our biggest rivals), nothing will ever will be for this team.
Yes Wenger is to blame. However, I want you to remember that he takes far more bullets than anyone should. Coward of a board is what is the real problem.
I know that no-one likes a ‘told you so’ pessimist, but really i’m a realist, i have been saying for a couple of years that things are going bad. I hate being proved right. Come on, wake up people. The script said we were going to lose this one. If we are lucky we will get a point against Liverpool before being raped in the arse by fucking tottenham. They will smell the blood already. 4th will seem like a distant dream by the end of the season, if the injuries continue we will be luck to get Europa league.
The only positive about today is the fact that next year we will release Walcott and bring in Ryo Myiachi who scored today for Bolton, good goal to.
Seriously have a read of the official site. I am fucking steaming. Trying to keep it civil, but not sure how much more of this fucking crap I can take without getting abusive towards wenger.
What he has said could have been written by anyone even before we played. I know he has to say something but for fucks sake? They gave 100%? Really
Sorry arsene have tried backing you, but your comments however predictable is the last straw. Just cannot beleive what I was reading. If we wasn’t already a laughing stock we fucking will be when the press read that pile of shit on the official site. Seriously unbelievable.
Another frustrating season but to all the fans calling for wengers head remember he loves this club as much as we do.He wants the future of this club to be solid when he’s gone. Compare this to redknapp who left Portsmouth in the shit and now he’s the darling of the English media. Be careful what you wish for.
I haven’t even read any of the above comments, I would just like to say that the club seems rudderless from top to bottom and we were much better when David Dein was at the club. Be it coincidence or not. Just putting it out there. Please don’t give me loads of thumbs down! I know you will! Stop! Just saying!!
David Dein, a great Arsenal man. Quite happy to sell his shares for millions of pounds to someone who supports United though (allegedly). And wanted us to play ALL our home games at Wembley
David Dein zzzzzzzzzzz
If I was forced out of the club I love I’d probably do a lot worse with my shares… Like… Lick them… Lick them till my tongue bled… You get my point..,
Dein sold his shares to Usmanov because he knew Arsenal would need backing of a billionaire in the future. He knew Wenger’s project would fail.
We all realise know Wenger is doomed and we will need a lot of money to clean up this mess. I’m glad we have Usmanov. I wouldn’t trust any of the Yankees to spend big. We know they’re here to make money.
Dein wanted to play at Wembley because he wanted club’s resources to be spent on building a winning team.
All Dein wanted was to “win!”. Now all our board and manager want to do is to “profit!”
In other news, Ryo myachi scored for bolton…something to cheer us up amidst our doom and gloom. Though really, I’d rather loan theo out than ryo
Shit. Fuck. Cunt. Balls. Fuckityfuck.
will we look back in the future and see this as the great decline of Arsenal FC? for fuck sake get Usmanov in here. who gives a fuck anymore, maybe he can pay off the stadiium so we dont have this bullshit excuse of the board members and share holders being the only cunt’s around here whose happy. somewhere along the line these cunts have forgotten who really matter. US!
Just got back home from the trip. Only Robin and Ox were able to understand what we went there for and came to say thanks/sorry/whatever…
Frimpong and piers moron having an extended shouting match on twitter for the last hour or so….Today is just sad for all Arsenal supporters, we should not spew hate at each other, times like this is when we can prove we are the best fans for the best club in the world, gotta stick together COYG
Piers Moron sums him up nicely. It’s bad enough to have suffered through this season without his pompous, know-it-all inanities thrust upon us.
Pep Guardiola said, “a team’s tactics are its players”….why cant we just accept for once that this team just isnt good enough……eventually it comes down to quality, a winning menatility….this team doesnt have it….its all good to criticize wenger for a billion reasons….he can only make do with what he has available in terms of the squad…in terms of mentality…we have an arrogant mentality whether we like to accept or not..and that stems down from wenger….he believes his style of play should prevail over every other team….sub 67 mins…only practicing with the ball….not scouting tactics of other teams….its pride and arrogance….we need to change that…
“Well,” I thought to myself afterwards, “we’re still in fourth. Tenuously so, but still in fourth.” But it’ll take only one injury–and I needn’t name anyone in particular–and we will be totally and irrevocably fucked.
Sorry I haven’t read all the comments, I got blurry eyes half way down.
I couldn’t understand why AW put Walcott on as the lone striker (albeit with VP behind him) knowing that Sunderland were defending with 5 or 6 players whenever we attacked. So ok, his pace is phenomenal he can run through when the balls played but wait… we played long, high crosses that Crouch would’ve struggled to get on to.
Is it sad that tonight didn’t anger me at all and I sat there with a quiet acceptance from kickoff that we’d fuck it up.
On a side note, I was gutted for Coquelin.
If Arsenal were my girlfriend, she would have been dumped today. By text.
hahaha…
fuck
Demoralizing. I usually just read but under these circumstances, I am compelled to commiserate with fellow Gooners. Yet, I can’t help but wonder what will come of it?
It is strange to be wavering between moments of madness, where I both curse Wenger for a stubborn mule and sit in awe at the kind of football infrastructure he has built for the club.
I am equally at a loss to fathom how we can by all appearances be so consistently at the frontier in terms of health facilities, work environment and general investment in player well-being, yet suffer nightmare after nightmare each season in terms of injuries. Actually it is so garish it is now verging on comical, really.
If I try and be practical about it, I am not sure ‘Wenger Out’ will solve anything. The truth is I trust him more than the board, and the current majority owner and these would be the people tasked with choosing his replacement. Funny enough the more I think of it, there seems to be a growing similarity between the soulless incessant plodding of Wal-Mart inspired business practice and the repetitive product on the pitch.
It would be a bit of a leap to point solely at any one source of blame, and blame in general serves little purpose. But I do think there is merit in examining the current product on the pitch and the ‘modus operandi’ enforced from on high.
Something that sticks out in this weeks Arsecast comes from monsieur Auclair’s observation at how alone Wenger seems to be in terms of accountability. It seems he is running everything, and I wonder, it that has to do with a similar kind of cost cutting, or unwillingness to spend on support staff, that we find on the pitch?
Is this down to Wenger refusing help? Or being dedicated to the club and refusing to acknowledge that they expect him to deliver without that help? Or at least to get by with cheaper knock-offs of the kind of re-investment needed to remain a top club…
I am reluctant to say Wenger has lost the plot. When it seems to me he is simply working way too many story lines. Tongue planted in cheek I see the weariness in his face of any other overworked Wal-Mart employee.
I am not an Usmanov proponent but I am of the opinion it is time we vocally question whether present ownership truly understand what it means to run Arsenal FC? This is not just another “entity” on paper that can be assessed by numbers, and at the moment, I believe in the eyes of some crucial figures, we are nothing more than the above.
I think you’ve really captured the mix of emotions most fans are feeling right now. There is a sense of something “wrong” about what is happening from top to bottom with the club right now. We are all quick to lay the blame but how do we really know what goes on behind closed doors?
What is equally as saddening is that even though we started pretty well last night, most of us sat there with an incredible sense of inevitability (judging from the comments). I don’t really feel much anger or frustration this afternoon (was a 4:15am kickoff for me) despite the shocking pitch, questionable officiating and strategic fouling that Sunderland were using, but just a feeling of resignation.
What happened, how did we get here, and where are we going?
@dawdler – considered, and thought-provoking comment. They are rare. You’re on my ‘worth reading when visually scrolling through 200+ comments after latest aberration’ list. For what it’s worth…
I applaud your insights and honesty.
If there was a Arseblog hall of fame for comments I would put you in it without thinking twice.
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Wenger has simply lost it, everything and I fear the worse?
I come only for the comments section.
Where is the creativity? We lost fabregas and who did we replace him with? Ramsey cannot even play a simple pass without misplacing it at the moment.
RVP barely got involved at Sunderland and Milan and I cannot remember a clear moment where in either games we tried to attack centrally?
No confidence, no leadership, I do not believe there is a lack of commitment but some of these players have no clue whatsoever.
it’s also funny that anyone criticises Wenger gets a thumbs down, whereas blaming Stan is a definite thumbs up!
Wenger’s been responsible for this team for the last 15 years.
Stan’s been the controlling owner for 1 year.
Are f*king kidding me people? Do you still think Wenger has no responsibility for this miserable season?
Blind faith in this man is exactly the reason where we are now. No accountability, no questioning..
Of course BUT wenger & Dein for the first ten years we were Barcelona!! Champions unbeaten
It’s not just Stan… It was fizman before him who booted Dein out 6 years ago (no co incidence we have been shit since)..
This is how City, united, barca would fair if they were ‘financially responsible’. I wonder are we being to cautious.
Replace Ramsey with Sessegnon and we’d be in ‘things looking up’ street
Sessegnon ? we can do better
so how would you know (unless you watch sunderland every weekend) if sessegnon is any good or even better than ramsey…as sad as it is, but he didn’t really play against the strongest of all defences yesterday and last weekend, did he?
Someone needs to bleed for this.
I sense the board is to blame overall, but without any kind of transparency, it’s Wenger who shoulders most of the blame.
Not that he’s completely exempt, he can fuck up with the best of them, but I believe with some of his recent comments, he is not getting enough support or help at all, while these cunts are content to just line their pockets, while Arsene soaks up the abuse.
But being the professional he is, he just tries to do his best.
I would welcome David Dein back and a new number 2, sorry Pat but I want a hard nosed cunt in your role, someone who will challenge Arsene, and give him the bad cop option.
I can’t believe anyone would thumb down a ‘Ramsey out, Sessegnon in’ post. The Sunderland man is a brilliant attacking player & would be of far, far more use than all the pathetic excuses for creativity that we parade at the moment.
Random thoughts after yesterday:
Saw Mo Farah on arsenal player training with the gooners in arsenal stuff….if he wins gold does that end our trophy drought…..also I hope he hasnt caught the arsenal hex and effed up his ankle/knee/fragile winning mentality which is effected by our training ground
Ryo scored a good goal
Fabregas, though brilliant, much loved etc and I really did love him doesnt he appear to have some curse…..never could drag us to win something, leaves us f*cked and then goes to Barcelona who look like they’ll not win their league this year either (though Champs league looks nailed on).
BFG brings some calm to the team, yesterday defensively we were clueless, love Djourou on inside gooner on official website may be he should stick to that. Arteta running on empty, rest of midfield not creative enuf without Jack.
Best thing this weekend is hearing Stevenage fans singing about Bale looking like a chimp and then outplaying the spuds for 90plus minutes.
Back to the drawin board chums.
Coincidence that we perform shockingly without Mert? The man-giant brings a lot of intangible qualities that makes him world class.
How many more ‘eye openers’ do we need? Every February we crash out of all competitions inside a month. Although this year we crashed out of the league earlier. I just don’t know which part of the club is to blame – how can they be so clueless?
fuck!
http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/call-collymore/blog/2012-02-19/auclair-i-cant-see-arsene-wenger-being-sacked-arsenal?
Good talking by Auclair everything he said is true.
For a moment, let us forget what has happened to our season thus far.
The situation as it stands……we are 4 points ahead of the team in 7th place. Unless we quicky pull our heads out of our holes, we’ll be finishing in 6th or 7th place.
The players we have now are the players we have for the remainder of the season. In the immediate term, perhaps we could bring in additional coaching / motivational staff or something to try to get the best out of this bunch? On paper, I think our current team is strong enough to compete with Liverpool, Newcastle and Chelsea……and definitely capable of doing Sunderland. Attitude, motivation, organisation, passion, belief, tenacity…..these are attributes we are missing and we need to acquire them right now.
I love Arsene, but we all find ourselves in situations where you can no longer see the woods from the trees. He needs help. If he won’t look for it himself then it should be forced upon him for his own (and Arsenal’s) good. Maybe the fans will have to force the message home (not sure how).
On the bright side (if there is one), if the malaise continues and we endure a number of seasons of mediocrity, the financial performance will inevitably suffer and investment will be made. The club’s current financial philosophy is very short-termist. Its a shame the club will have to suffer before anything is done about it.
Keep the faith, we’ll always be The Arsenal.
somethings just never change.
Players need to take some responsibility for their poor performance.
Manager and boardroom need to be held accountable for our tranfer fiasco over the summer!
And Walcott wants to play through the middle all the time? Yeah, right.
Only man ever to make the Sunderland Offside Trap look effective.
Dear Wenger, Rosicky, Arshavin, Squillaci, Diaby, Djourou, Mertesacker: your P45 is in the post.
Sucks
Sucks and we all know that but are shaying away from this truth.
Blogs – why is my comment still awaiting moderation mate? There is nothing remotely questionable in there.