Tuesday, September 30, 2014
Report: Arsenal 3-3 Fulham (inc goal clips)

Report: Arsenal 3-3 Fulham (inc goal clips)

Arsenal dropped two points after an eventuful 3-3 draw with Fulham at the Emirates this afternoon.

Francis Coquelin replaced Jack Wilshere in midfield, other than that Arsenal were unchanged from midweek in Schalke.

The visitors had the first chance of the game when, after a scramble on the edge of our box, a shot deflected just wide of Mannone’s post. But Arsenal went in front having won a corner, Theo Walcott curled it in and Olivier Giroud thumped home a header to make it 1-0. Schwarzer got a hand but couldn’t keep it out.

It was 2-0 just over 10 minutes later when Arteta, played in by Cazorla, might have shot from a tight angle. Instead he took a touch and drilled a low ball across goal which the onrushing Podolski prodded home with his left foot.

For the second time in a week Arsenal were 2-0 up in a game which they were a long way from dominating, and for the second time in a week we let the lead slip.

In the 29th minute Berbatov, unmarked from close range, headed home a corner to make it 2-1, and the former Sp*rs and United man set up Fulham’s second. Again Arsenal were found wanting in the left back position, Berbatov’s cross found Kacaniklic unmarked on the penalty spot and his header beat Mannone when the Italian probably should have done better. 2-2.

They almost went 3-2 up right at the end of the half, this time a cross from the right was flicked from close range and only a late Mertesacker intervention prevented Berbatov having a tap-in at the back post.

Arsenal started the second half very brightly, with Theo Walcott involved. He crossed for Olivier Giroud but it was just too high, then he cut inside from the right, ran towards goal and curled a left footed shot just wide.

It was a game of to and fro, with both sides looking capable of scoring, and in typical Arsenal fashion it was Fulham who went ahead. Mikel Arteta was caught on the edge of our box,  had a little pull at Ruiz who fell over as you would expect, and Phil Dowd pointed to the spot. Berbatov made no mistake to make it 2-3.

But just two minutes later Arsenal were level. After being put clean through and seeing shot hit the post, Giroud powered home a header from Theo Walcott’s follow up cross and the Gunners were right back in it. 3-3.

Giroud then forced Schwarzer into a fine save having run through midfield before unleashing a powerful shot which was going inside the near post. Arsenal brought on Oxlade-Chamberlain for Podolski and Arshavin for Walcott, and they also had Laurent Koscielny to thank for a couple of last ditch tackles to deny Fulham. One in particuar, on Berbatov, saved a certain goal.

It looked like the game was going to fizzle out to a draw, which neither team could complain about, when an Arshavin cross was deemed to have been handled by Phil Dowd. It seemed harsh but the penalty was given.

Mikel Arteta took responsibility but with the last kick of the game his spot kick was saved by Schwarzer, and the Spaniard slumped to the ground the final whistle went. People may ask why Giroud, on a hat-trick, didn’t take it, but a senior player took responsibility, perhaps keen to atone for his earlier error, and I doubt he’ll sleep well tonight.

Maybe we didn’t deserve the victory but fuck that, I’d have liked it. In the end though a draw was a fair result and Arsenal will rue defensive lapses again. Despite character to come back into it having gone behind, we chucked away a two goal lead and it’s hard to look at today and not think anything other than 2 points dropped.

 

67 – Penalty, Berbatov scores

69 – Giroud goal

80 – Giroud run/shot

 

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  1. fuck

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    • The last thing we needed was Arteta loosing confidence,
      Fuck

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      • Guys, I don’t even think it’s a matter of confidence (OK, yes, confidence partially) but did you see how ragged tired he looked today? He played with a lot of fight, and I really feel for him, after all is said and done.

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      • after his slip up in our box he never looked the same mate

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      • Remember the invincibles. Because we aren't good anymore

        Arteta atleast contributed a good assist. He had a bad game overall. Don’t know why he took the penalty at all..
        Ramsey was outstanding. Nearly got sent off within 10 minutes of coming on and made so many errors. What is the point of that boy? I actually thought Coquelin was playing well.

        Walcott was our best player btw. If there’s anything we can learn from that it’s this. He’s definitely a goner come January

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      • And our classless fans will boo him and make their 3 year olds abuse him.

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      • What does Van persie have to do with this match? Score a couple of goals ? That’s what Giroud did.

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      • Btw last thing we need is another liverpool from north london and managed by one formerly genius french manager.

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    • Remember the invincibles. Because we aren't good anymore

      Welcome to THE ARSENAL HORROR SHOW: Let’s play a game; a game of mistakes.
      We’ll start with the Board.
      The the manager can make a few.
      Then the players can make a few( if the board hasn’t sold them all except Chu Young Park- pretty sure he’ll still be around.We did pay 4 million for him after all)

      Robin Van Persie who? Robin Van Persie who would’ve taken the penalty and scored.

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      • Your last comment is pointless considering he missed them for Arsenal and has already missed one for the vermin this season, but I understand your frustration and the rest of what you say is spot on. But theres no point whinging about the players we sold, because the players we had on the pitch today should have beaten Fulham at home, especially gifted a 2 goal start. They dont look like they are playing for the manager.

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      • Remember the invincibles. Because we aren't good anymore

        Certainly remember him cracking one into the back of the net against Liverpool at home in extra time. Of course, Eboue had to give away a penalty at the other end the very next minute,

        Anyway, point was we have a striker who only seems to be able to score with his head,

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      • Yes I agree if I could have picked anyone to place that ball it would have been CUNT

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      • Remember the invincibles. Because we aren't good anymore

        really don’t understand what you’re abusing him for. WE ARE 7TH in the table. United are FIRST!. How can so many fans begrudge a player of that quality a move to a better team? He’s with a team that has quality players around him. Something he didn’t have last season at Arsenal. Atleast United have found a way to stay competitive.
        Sometimes I wished fans like you would think and not just randomly abuse people

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      • It was the way he went about it. I never abused other players I idolised who left like Brady, Rocky, Mickey Thomas, Vieira, Henry. I did call Frank Stapleton a cunt to his face one day though

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  2. Are we now the world’s best midtable club?

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    • No, but we are the world’s richest mid table Club, with the world’s best paid Chief Executive, most insulting Chairman and most dis interested (except for the share price) majority share holder.

      That is some hat trick right there. And it’s about the only hat-trick we’ll score this season.

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      • oh mate. The way things are looking, we’ll be scoring that hat-trick for a while,
        New stadium they said. 60,000 they said. Pay for attractive football they said.
        if they had said we’ll be reduced to a state where we don’t trust out 6.5 mill left back to play and instead opt for Vermaelen to throw in long balls we wouldn’t have believed it.

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    • Cygan's Magical Left Foot

      We are going to create a midtable trophy. And don’t worry the FFP coming soon and we will go above WBA, Everton, Spuds and the likes to get OUR top 4 trophy back.

      Hey you forgot the world best paid midtable manager too. He told us he doesn’t need any signing as Diaby is a LANS.

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  3. typical arsenal game….and throwing the lead away again uggggh

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    • get used to it mate…I think this season we’re gonna see more and more of this as opposed to last season when we fought back to win coming from behind.

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  4. why was i 95% sure we wouldn’t score that penalty
    this is getting unbelievably frustrating

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    • Matt Jarvis' Uncle

      On the bright side, we finally got a penalty at home.

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    • You’d think the man on a hat trick would take the pen. But it’s never that simple with Arsenal

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    • I was in the car keeping up with text commentary with a couple of fellow Gooners, the first thing I said was “we’re going to miss.”

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      • What’s concerning is that we’ve been quite lucky in the last 3 games yet haven’t won any of them…imagine what’s going to happen when we run out of luck.

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    • Yeah me too. I actually thought Giroud would take it and miss.
      But the worst player of the game (except Ramsey, of course) went to take it!

      Im fed up with this team, i dunno why we have the shakiest confidence in the whole league.
      They will not win shit for a long time, unless some changes are to be made!

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  5. Great entertainment .
    But thats not what we want how can we screw up so bad why cant we just win a fucking game.

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  6. Yuckety Yuck

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  7. i learnt many things today. The main thing, however, is the difference a decent keeper makes.

    I am baffled by this team. Why can’t we defend?!!

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    • Poor game by Mannone, but Fulham were firing on all cylinders today. Our defenders were shockingly bad, especially Vermaelen.

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      • because we let them. First goal was a soft header, second one podolski didnt follow the his man, and i think vermaelen and podolski tracked the wrong ones anyway, then its headed at mannone and he lets it in. I dont know what arteta was doing for the third.

        In summary we, once again, gift wrapped the oppositions goals.

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      • Podolski is useless

        Ramsey is useless. Always turning in circles and then getting caught out. Needing to make silly fouls to cover for it. ffs Ramsey its time you improved.
        Podolski is equally useless. Scored a goal but ffs he should’ve made that run as soon as Arteta faked the shot. Lacks intelligence in movement. His movement and skill( or lack off) on the ball is amongst the worst.

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      • Why pick out mannone. What did ge do wrong. Maybe i was too caught up with the shambles outfield

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      • because he’s a GK. i expect most GK’s to save tame shots or headers that hit their hands.

        you are right about outfield players though. bar giroud, nothing to feel positive about.

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    • It’s also become obvious that Arshavin has still got something to offer. 7 minutes on the pitch and he won us a penalty.

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      • Arshavin has a heart! And I am not sure about many others…

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      • Spot on! If he and Theo go in Jan I’m generally worried. I don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes but keeping these 2 is a must in my eyes.

        Everton are looking strong right now. We’re 4 points off them and playing the Spuds next week. No disrespect to Fulham but I used to think this was certain 3 points at home. In realty they gave us a good game and it shows where we’re at.

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      • He should get a shot in carzorla s position. A little rotation might be a good thing

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      • yet we were booing him last season. we should be ashamed.

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  8. HEARTBROKEN

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  9. Giroud or Santi should have taken that penalty. Not that i’m blaming Arteta but there was just too much pressure for him to take it, bearing in mind he had given one earlier.

    Today has been yet another “need my heart medicine” arsenal day.

    Giroud for MOTM. And Arteta for (BHIH) –> Bury head in hands.

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    • I seriously bet Arteta won’t sleep a wink all week. The guy was on the ground at the end looking devastated.

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      • I don t care how he feels now! He had to score things like this! He had to!

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      • I agree with you, but after hearing that Cazorla and Giroud didn’t want to take it, that just makes me angry, because they should have taken some responsibility and known better.

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    • thought Theo was our best player. Worked hard and was desperate to show his qualities. We’re so obviously selling him though.

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      • I down thumbed you only because Giroud was MoTM – very easy to see that. He was the ruler of the skies today – 2 headed goals, heading out from the defense, headers and flick-on’s in the midfield, great runs.
        Walcott was great today also, but just not as much as Giroud.

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  10. this is getting real painfull and annoying.

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  11. Big Chief from Antarctica

    I’m not sure if my health insurance will cover everything if they found out that I’m a gooner.. The amount of heart attacks I had. Just absurd.

    Unlucky performance. :(

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  12. Once again, not good enough. Even if we won 4-3
    today, it isn’t good enough. Terrible, absolutely
    terrible defending. Costs us time and time again.
    Giroud had his best game yet for us. Played very
    well, and scored twice in the game. Good to see
    Podolski scoring again. It’s laughable how Wenger states ”we can win the league” He must be off his head, because a lot of this team are no where near title winning players. We may get used to it, because if we dont spend in January, we will struggle to get top 4.

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    • Thanks for that comment, my words exactly. This is not good enough!

      The defense is terrible, I do get it that players make efforts and try but the last 5% are missing, this absolute will to win the game. And this was a decent but not terrific Fulham side, Berbatov aside. By the way, I haven’t read anything on the Bould effect here for quite some time now on this blog. I’m his biggest fan, but the coordination defense-midfield is still suboptimal. Conceding 3 at home against Fulham, not that’s not a challenging top team. When did we last have a clean sheet?

      Walcott tried as well, cheers for that, but he could have crossed on 2 occasions when he really just tried to shot from a position from which it is impossible to score. Giroud’s vehemence was laudable, but let’s be honest, he does need a lot of chances. He’s getting better into the team though which is a good thing.

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  13. OHHH THE FUCKING HUMANITYY

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  14. Matt Jarvis' Uncle

    Arteta had a stinker.

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  15. Giroud impressed me today, was definitely in the mood. Don’t really know what else to say. Can’t quite get my head around the game.

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  16. If after this display we’re still going to sell Walcott.. I don’t know, man.. I don’t know.

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    • At this rate we cant even afford to let go of arshavin!!!. He seems special this lad, Enters the field of play and suddenly something positive is happening for us. Keep him, perhaps play him infront of Ramsey who has arshavin has proven is way better than him.

      Sometimes I tend to think Arsene keeps playing him not coz of his ability but maybe because he has a soft spot for him.

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      • Remember the invincibles. Because we aren't good anymore

        please don’t suggest playing Ramsey. Please. Please. Never. I’ve seen enough of Ramsey. sell him. please sell him. But no.

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  17. I think arsene forgot to tell Fulham that we have the best defence in the premiership.

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    • Remember the invincibles. Because we aren't good anymore

      Arsene needs to shut up and let the football do the talking

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  18. Arsenal is bigger than it’s manager…

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    • From what I saw today, the fans were no better. 2-0 up at there was no support at all, but they could boo the team in full voice at HT.

      Disgraceful. The first real support chant came in the 52ND MINUTE.

      If our own home crowd can’t be bothered to support our team, why should we expect our foreign owner to do so?

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      • And where were you?

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      • What’s the purpose of that question?

        I live in Asia, can probably afford to go to a match only once a year. I guess that makes me less of a fan and unworthy of criticizing the “support” of the crowd today.

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      • Nope it does not make you less of a fan. I myself had to leave London for work commitments so I understand the frustration, but, you need to start watching the game in stereo mate if you think the first real support chant came in the 52nd minute. And writing in capitals to make yourself heard is so fucking annoying

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      • And besides, when I cannot be there myself I do not criticise the people who gave up their Saturday to support the team and paid the entrance fee that pays the players wages

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  19. what the fuck is going on? This team is weird. They look like they’ll rip someone a new arsehole one minute and then they flake out like a bunch of pansies. We need a shouter, an enforcer. Someone who will really scare the shit out of the opposition and get the others going. There seems to be a real lack of motivation in some of the team. Also, I hate people singling him out and think people are usually a bit too harsh but Ramsey really was poor today. He kept on getting brushed off the ball.
    Frustrated.

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    • Placing Ramsey on the pitch only intensified the workload Arteta was tasked with. Backbreaking work, and spirit-crushing today.

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      • Ramsey was shocking today. His passes were just awful, time and again caught in possesion and in turn pulling down the player that robbed him off the ball. Some say he’s an impact sub but today some points have been removed off that.

        So worried at the moment, so damn worried!

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    • Couldnt agree more. No leadership at the club, none, from owner to the pitch where our silent captain is

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  20. Giroud What a fighter never stops trying Three great goals in a week 10/10

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    • And a super long range effort too.

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    • Thank god, we have one fan who says as he sees it. Giroud has been really good for us. He works tirelessly up front. He comes back to defend corners. He scored two great goals. Why the continuous whinge by people here. Does anyone remember how many chances RVP missed over the years? Giroud has just started to play for us and already it is clear that he can score.

      I know Arteta gave away the penalty but lot of the blame should be on Santi as well who passed the ball to him in a dangerous area with Ruiz lurking instead of doing a clearance. Lastly, Arteta had scored previously against Fulham with a penalty and he struck it well. Give credit where it is due, Schwartzer made a great save.

      The problem today was not just with defenders. The problem we have is that our midfield is missing that defensive guy who can shield the back 4. Not buying a DM was always going to bite us. In tough games where the opposition do a fast pressing game, Arteta will be just too light. Anyway, I feel it is unfair on him as he is not purely a DM. Wish we had considered De Jong as an option last summer. The true value of these players is only seen in such tight games. They have this wonderful ability to break up play and we could see for ourselves how Fulham could repeatedly bypass our midfield today. Unfortunately, for this Wenger has to take full responsibility.

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  21. Giroud was amazing, really proud of him and even the most pessimistic dickheads like Piers Morgan seems to see how good Giroud is. Despite the draw there were some positives, Giroud and Walcott are great together, Coquelin can play box to box and Walcott can actually cross despite the bullshit that the media throws at us.
    But I think we missed Diaby, he’s the only player with the quality to free up space for Arteta, I mean Arteta was hassled throughout the game and even though he’s great, today was a poor game by his standards but I won’t throw anything against him, my wish is that Wenger buys a Diaby replacement if(when) Diaby gets injured or at least try promoting within with the same qualities. Does anyone think Chuks Aneke can do this by January or next year?

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    • P.S squad rotation is a must, Cazorla looked lethargic and Podolski drifts in and out of games far too much.

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      • And did you see how tired Arteta was? Who else is tasked with so much responsibility out there? THEY NEED REST, WENGER! That’s why you shouldn’t have sold Song.

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    • Good of you to mention Piers cunt Morgan, now my misery is complete.

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    • Speaking of cunts , the commentator on espn was an absolute anti-arsenal dickwad. The whole match was ruined by him.

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      • what a stupid stupid comment. The whole match was ruined by the ineptitude of the team, not some meaningless twat who supports manure

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    • walcott can cross, but the number of times in recent weeks he has tried to shoot from ridiculous places instead of laying it off, or the number of times he has drifted into a central position when sagna has been running down the right, probably just to prove he can be a striker is really starting to piss me off! even if Walcott leaves, we’ll get by he is definitely one player that is not bigger than the Arsenal (i’d still prefer if he stayed)

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    • We need a DM and an LB, for sure. And a better backup striker.
      Etienne Capoue seems to be a good option for DM.
      For LB i have no idea.
      Striker…Falcao would be something…but will never happen.
      Llorente maybe…maybe just get Bendtner back from loan, hes decent enough.

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  22. Just one sentence sums it all: We are not able to beat Fulham!

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  23. After this performance I’ll have to consult my doctor for more heart medicines. The ones I have been all taken up by only Arteta today.

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  24. Giroud performance is the only positive to take from this game. Very worrying that we are leaking goals in at the rate that we do, and we look very physically weak in midfield.

    We need a leader/captain that will pick up morale and confidence, right now their is NO real leader that will take the game by the scruff of the neck and lead by example, we havent had such a leader in donkey years.

    At the end of the day 16 points out of a possible 33 is abysmal for a team of Arsenal stature.

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    • Disheartened Gooner

      I agree. There was no leadership on the pitch.

      Why was Vermaelen hiding? I thought he’d shout at players to get the best out of them. But he himself didn’t seem very confident.

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    • I think Koscielny looked sharper than he has previously, so that might be a positive.. and no own goals.. the back to back games have helped him. I wouldn’t mind him seeing a run of games, which could help him regain form like Giroud because it is clear he has talent and is more disciplined right now then Vermaelen

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  25. Oh do you know what,,,,,,i just can’t be arsed. same old shit, ok going forward but fucking hopeless at the back AGAIN….and for fuck sake stop playing Ramsey…..

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    • Agreed.

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    • This hating on Ramsey thing is getting old now. He wasn’t the issue at all today. I was happy to see he didn’t start because I can’t trust him with a whole game lately and it’s good for him to have competition. But I think he did ok today.
      Still gutted about the game though.

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      • He did ok??
        It was the worst ive ever seen him play!
        and talking about Ramsey, thats really saying something!

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  26. Two positives for me, today — we looked like we gave a shit at least about winning; gone was that lackadaisical nonchalance, replaced with fight. And we just didn’t have it in us today. (And of course the other positive was Giroud showing once and for all what he’s made of.)

    I feel bad for Arteta; he had a poor game today, the worst he’s ever had for us. But I don’t blame him entirely, because we ask for the most out of him out of ALL of our players, and he always gives it 100-percent. Shouldn’t have taken the PK, that’s for sure. But we shouldn’t lose confidence in him as a player, after this. I just hope he gets a rest soon.

    Biggest problems? Our bench, and our tactics. Subbing in Ramsey seemed a crazy decision, a bit baffling, as I think that makes Arteta’s job all the more difficult.

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    • Some how am not really pissed today because it did look like the team was giving it a go. at least trying.
      Was screaming for Arshavin to be brought on earlier for Cazorla though.

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      • Arshavin is buzzin a bit for some reason I think he could fit right in and give Santi a rest maybe play them both sometimes and set some new problems

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  27. I will never ever, ever, ever stop supporting/loving Arsenal…

    But seriously I don’t know what to think anymore… especially if Theo leaves in January. What is wrong with our beloved Arsenal?! We are incapable of holding even a 2 goal lead..

    And I knew knew we were going to miss that penalty, just had this irking feeling. *Sigh*

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  28. Result aside Fulham played us off the park in all fairness.
    Everyone can speculate about the how far and wide the problems are but the most obvious is that the team is not good enough and the league knows it and within 10 games they’ve worked us out.
    Fulham had the two best players on the park and however loyal AW is to the lads who play, if he doesn’t add to this team with better players them he’s part of that problem unfortunately.

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    • BIG PROBLEM: No bench (= tired starting lineup) AND still major gaping holes in our defense.

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    • Are you trying to tell us that the team put out today are not better. more talented players than the players Fulham had out today? Bullshit. English, Spanish, French, German internationals. The club is in trouble. What type of message does selling our best players year after year send to the others?

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      • Amen. We are shit from the top down. The leadership at the club sets an indifferent example towards winning and being the best. If all they care about is cashing the check, why should we expect the players to care?

        Winters not even here yet and it’s time for some major spring cleaning. We’ve been saying for years it’s time to ship out the “deadwood”. Unfortunately we were referring to the wrong deadwood. It’s not the players that need shipping out, it’s the club leadership. Sack them all.

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    • I waa really wondering during the match, why we didnt get Berbatov for VP (plus cash of course).
      And right now im wondering why we didnt get Hernandez for the dutch cunt…

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      • Honestly Welbeck would have been the best swap option. He’s got a good physical presence and think we need that over Hernandez’ poching abilities. Berba has never convinced me. Not consistent enough. Like Ibrahimovic. Only plays when he feels like it. Like the African cunt we had.

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  29. did anyone else realise that Arshavin still managed to make an impact in the 10mins he had, why doesn’t he start for once? Also, the number of times players got caught in possession, does nobody know the word “man-on”. This should have been a routine win.

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    • My fellow gonners and I have slagged off Arshavin in the past, and rightly so in my humble opinion. We have no choice but to try new things with the personnel that we have got right now. I will gratefully eat my words and eat my own beard if Arshavin turns his career around however long he has left at Arsenal.

      Giroud must have military background because he brought along the fucking airforce today. I suggest we start playing the type of football that suits Giroud’s aerial superiority. Arshavin usually crosses well for Giroud.

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  30. hard work watching that on the blog! bit gutted really, but we at least seemed back at the races in spells. our left is really causing problems at the moment, but at least the forwards are getting it together.

    NAA NAAAAAAA, NAA NAAAAAAAAA, GIROUD!!!!!!!

    to all the ‘wise ones’ that were hating, and writing the poor bloke off before we’d even got to haloween, HAVE THAT!!!!

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  31. 4-4-2 please.

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    • A REAL LEFT BACK, PLEASE. Also, a midfielder who we can sub in every now and again. I guess having Wilshere out there today would have been nice, right?

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    • been a lot of 4-4-2 talk this week, but eveyone responds that it doesnt work, its soooo 80s.

      can someone please tell red nose that 4-4-2 doesnt work, its getting a bit irritating watching man u win titles with such an outdated formation.

      ;)

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  32. :'(

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  33. Arsenal have lost it’s aura. When teams meet the big three they hope for a draw. These days when they meet Arsenal they feel they can actually win it and have no fear taking the game to us. Positives, Giroud is scoring almost when he wants to, and I can’t remember when we’ve gotten bodies into the box teed up for the cross to come in as much as we did today. Unfortunately the delivery was as always not quite there… Individual errors and the lack of that incisive ball in the final third cost us yet again. Win the league? Hahahaha. Top four? I doubt that too. Seems like we’re contesting to be the top fourth. Come on Arsene, I want to believe!

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  34. Anyone who thinks replacing Wenger now would solve our problems is fucking deluded. Leave any other manager with this deluded fuckwit board and we will fall apart.

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    • You are right about the board but Wenger has a great deal to do with this he picks the team makes the subs coaches the team and gives the team talk. Manages the team. I wish to be deluded at the moment I am just disillusioned

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      • True. There are at least 16 other managers in the PL who would love to have our squad

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      • I actually agree with you both. The board is shit first and foremost, but motivating the team, choosing the right players and tactics et al is all down to Wenger. And he’s been pretty poor at that. However you can also argue that he’s just not motivated anymore for the job, losing his best players every year to make a profit the board told him to. When he was really close to having a title winning team. If I was him I’m sure I’d be pissed. So all in all, the board is shit. Wengers pretty bad too but I can spare him the benefit of doubt seeing ANY manager won’t thrive with this board

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    • Manager picks the team and buys the players. Don’t know if you can blame the board entirely, by some accounts Wenger has money to spend but does not.

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  35. Another game, another “remarkable match” (i.e. a farce). I half expected Sir Brian Rix to come on as one of our substitutes – with his shorts around his ankles.

    We are now officially a laughing stock. At 2-0 up and cruising we showed all the defensive skill and composure of the Southampton side that we hammered earlier this season. Yet again our forwards, especially the excellent Giroud,worked their arses off, only to see us throw away a match because of incompetence at the back.

    Enough is enough: fuck off Wenger. You can’t seem to coach even the basics of defending. It looks like we won’t even finish in the top SIX under you.

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    • So 3 clean sheets in a row and Steve Bould is the messiah and now when we concede a few goals, Wenger can’t coach the basics of defending? Not saying it’s Bould’s fault but some people will go to extreme lengths to justify their agendas. We won’t finish in the top 6? Giroud is not a top 4 striker?! Have you ever got any of your predictions right?

      And we are definitely not a laughing stock. A matter of opinions maybe but we were much much worse in the 80s as you probably know and nobody laughed at us then, those who laugh at us now are not gooners anyway and they laughed at us even during the invincible season so let them be. We’re all frustrated but when you have a knee jerk reaction after every game the only thing good I can say is that you’re at least consistent in being negative.

      It’s a terrible result and very few positives today but what is galling is that the same people who claim we have no chance of making the top 4/6/8/10 are the ones loudest on here after a setback especially considering none of their predictions have ever been right.

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      • Bollocks. We ARE a laughing stock. I don’t know if you’ve noticed but football has changed massively since the eighties. Today, money is God. A Club with our huge resources should expect to be challenging for the title. Right now we are already ELEVEN points off the top after just eleven games HAVING MADE OUR WORST START IN SIXTEEN YEARS. WEST BROM, Spurs and Everton are above us.
        And we can’t defend. FIVE goals conceded against Reading, who haven’t won a PL game all season, two rubbish goals conceded in Germany, and three more today. And the goals are all shit – who was marking Berbatov today?

        My “agenda” is for Arsenal to be the best team in the world. We can start by sacking this hopeless, overrated, senile, past-it Frenchman and bringing in somebody who at least knows how to coach a team in the basics of defending.

        David Moyes wouldn’t be a bad choice. But I would prefer Guadiola.

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      • Well said, fat gooner

        Wenger’ overstayed his welcome

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  36. The result is ok considering we played dangerously after the 68th minute. We were attacking more, creating chances and the game was nothing like the first half. While the rest of the football world might deride us for this, genuine gooners we’ll be glad at our spark of what we’re capable of displayed today(2nd half).

    One/two things though. We need to stop passing the ball back! It could have cost us today and its not the first time they’ve done this.
    Theo needs to be a bit generous with the ball. When the team wins, we all win!!

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  37. We don’t press the ball. Way too many slide tackles in our 3rd of the pitch for me to be comfortable win. I was content midweek, because Shalke is a good team. Fulham is a midtable team. A team we should be beating, so this wasn’t kosher at all.

    Giroud and Kos were immense today. Podolski showed a spark of life after 3 weeks. Good to Chambo back on the field and more Arshavin involvement. Those were my only positives of the game. Oh, and we’re getting chances again (Never thought I’d say that was one of the positives of a game a few weeks ago.)

    Santi only looked interested the last 20 min. Arteta looked tired as shit out there. Signs are that this dip in form is ending, or at least I hope it does.

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  38. Wow, the game is practically gifted to us in stoppage time. WHY is Arteta taking the penalty? He had a poor second half and was low in confidence. Should have let Giroud take it to get his hattrick.

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  39. Yo Ivan, your £2 million salary is safe don’t worry.

    Hey Stan, wanna be more involved in the club?…Maybe help Wenger in some player negotiations? No? Okay you stay in America then

    Oops sorry PHW I promise we won’t take an ‘interest in your affairs’ anymore

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    • Does anyone actually know when our stadium debt and all debt will be cleared off completely? I mean seriously. Money helps.

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  40. Can someone explain to me the sub of Coq with Ramsey…this is very baffling to say the least!!!

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    • I think by bringing Ramsey, we would be more attacking. It would be three midfield with attacking mentality in Arteta, Ramsey, Cazorla. It’s just that Ramsey didn’t back it up with application. He constantly dwell on the ball and lose the momentum of the attack. Really disappointing from him.

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    • Maybe we are getting money from the Football Association of Wales to play him every bloody game? :)

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  41. I’m in two minds about Arteta spot kick. It may well be the case that he want to take responsibility, but is he the really our number one spot kick takers? I would not argue if there’s no one want to take the spot kick, than Arteta come forwards. But it may well have been Giroud want to take but sacrifice it for Arteta.
    Anyway, this match make me want the Spurs match to come faster. At least, our enthusiasm for attack is slowly coming back. It’s just our defensive side which come to haunt us like usual.

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  42. Guys…are we the new Liverpool? I hope not.

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    • Remember the invincibles. Because we aren't good anymore

      I think the board are slowly but surely taking us down that route

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    • Matt Jarvis' Uncle

      Looks like it at the moment. The only way to stop us becoming Liverpool is by buying some midfield reinforcement in January. Ramsey and Coquelin are good lads but they are not of Arsenal quality.

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    • Atleast Liverpool board is willing to spend money on players( even though most of them are overrated)

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      • Are you talking about the Liverpool board that refused to pay 4 million pounds for Clint Dempsey? Or are you talking about the Liverpool board that left the club with one real striker after loaning out Carroll and was too cheap to pick up a replacement?

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  43. defence crisis again!! again our captain
    to b blamed somewhere :'(
    giroud showd wat damage he can do and
    just loved him today!!

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  44. Wonder who Wenger will blame tonight. He got the luck as well, was never a pen.. but Arsenal bottled it again. Why didn’t Giroud take the penalty? You give it to a confident player , not one who has had a poor game up piling even more pressure on him. Wenger and his stupid premeditated shite.

    Quite frankly, this form is abysmal and Wenger should be sacked – not good enough. Money has nothing to do with the shocking defending and mental weaknesses. The squad is full of players playing in the wrong position and being pushed to their physical limits. Arteta will crock himself at this rate.

    Only one man is to blame, Wenger NOT the board. Just wish they had the bollox to get rid.

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  45. Arteta for post match interview?.

    Let Giroud at it.

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  46. All I can say is that…sorry mrs.Arseblog…for unsuscribed from all your daily mail…it happened because I can no longer hold on my breath to this inconsistancy of our current players..so off until January if we made any progress!

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  47. Poor performance and we’re in a rut, albeit much of it is self inflicted. I thought the penalty could have been that little luck to turn it around but that didn’t go to plan….seems like we’re going to need another ‘ze enemy’ moment next week to get going. In the grand scheme of things however, we’re a top 4 club and just can’t seem to push on for one reason or another. We play half the season as a mediocre side and the rest as a fantastic unit and scrape through in 3rd/4th. Sometimes the poor spell comes pre November sometimes it’s post February. It’s almost like the 80s again except all the fluctuation in league positions is during the season.

    I’m not worried about finishing 4th…we’re 4 points off with 27 games to go, it’s silly to say finishing 4th will be a miracle regardless of form! I am worried however, about how we never seem to kick on. Frustration seems to get the better of everybody and it’s sickening to keep dropping points and now we have the fucking international matches! It’s never an easy ride being a gooner!

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  48. Look forward to see Scz back in goal next week

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  49. As long as Emirates is filled with 60,000 loyal supporters every weekend, and money keeps on rolling in, not a fucking thing will change. Once fans stop paying for the priciest fucking ticket in Europe (WTF!!!!????) maybe that will send a message. I would be ashamed if I were Gazidis right about…….. now.

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  50. This is HORRIBLE: Heard Arteta only took the late PK because no one else would. He’s the only one who takes responsibility out there, and it’s devastating. Says a lot about what’s wrong with us right now.

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  51. Wait till song comes back into the team. Oh thats right we sold him as he as excess to requirements. We need a proper defensive midfielder in the team.

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  52. The best mid-table team in the world.

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  53. cuphalfullfuckingempty

    One dimensional manager, one dimensional tactics, one dimensional squad, cunty board, shit results, this is not how The Arsenal is supposed to be.

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  54. Anyone else miss the days where we could have injuries and suspensions yet still be a strong side?

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  55. Arsene has finally reach the end of the road in terms of managing this team.
    But as long as he is making money for the board he will continue as usual.

    Last season he said, and I quote, judge me at the end of the season.

    Well Mr Wenger, since that statement, you’re now on your second season and we’re still rubbish and you still continue to sell our best players.

    From now on I’ll not be criticising any of our players because they’re doing their best with the coaching they’ve been receiving from Arsene, but every time we struggle to beat a team, most of the fans would come and pick on one player and make him the scape goat, but I think it’s about time Arsene becomes the scape goat no excuses.

    And goodness sake, please lay off Arteta and Manonne because the past few games they’ve been very resolute, this is all on Arsene and the board

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  56. Reading score 5 Fulham score 3….I’m so glad Bould has sorted out the defence.

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  57. I didn’t think Ramsey was particularly bad. Am I insane?

    Sure, he gave the ball away twice (or thrice) – but everyone was doing that all over the pitch. Arteta, Sagna, Poldoski, Walcott – all gave the ball away multiple times.

    With Ramsey on the pitch we seemed to up the tempo significantly.

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    • Meh. (That’s about my general opinion of Ramsey AND Arsene’s continued love for him.)

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    • You are not insane. Maybe blind or too young or you should return to watching basketball or something else.
      You can not see Ramsey is lost on the pitch, giving ball away, running all over without the plan, not covering opposition players close, ball is bouncing out of him like he is a wall or something…
      and he’s been like that since he came back from injury. I am sorry but he should be sold now and buy some player same age but with prospect to be a better player. It won’t be that hard and I thin even The Board can earn some in process.
      It is a shame that players like Ramsey or Santos are even on the Arsenal bench… we fell deep deep deep….

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      • Blind, young, basketball fan. Or a combination of all three.

        I appreciate the level of condescension contained within your reply – all the more remarkable, considering I assume it came from a mature adult with perfect vision.

        Thanks man!

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  58. Walcott looked like he played well today, but truth is he didn’t. He had 2 chances to cross in for team mates in much better positions but the decided to go for the spectacular and all so he can prove he is a good striker.

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  59. Lightweight team. This is the poorest squad under Wenger. We will not win any trophies this season and struggle to finish top 6. Still a fan that will never change. Can’t say anymore than what had already been said. Fans are too loyal to keeping backing this mad prof. We need change that’s too evident we are poor and spurs will stuff this crap side.

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  60. I think i am going to go with bakarr. For some time now, our esteem professor has hamering on this confidence problem. I think deep down, this man knows what the problem is(selling our best players), and he still has not been able to do anything about it. Man for man, i am not sure fulham is at our level, so we can safely say that the problem here is not quality. I think Arsene has ran out of ideas and is simply waiting for miracle to happen. What a shame. We shoul’nt be where we are.

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  61. cuphalfullfuckingempty

    This is the price we’re gonna have to pay for the “4th place is ok” attitude that is being imposed on this team. We’re supposed to be winners for fuck’s sake! Psychologically damaging for squad & demoralising for the fans. Let’s demand that the board & manager drop their remuneration by 10% for each place below 1st at the end of the season. Bet 4th wouldn’t be acceptable then!

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  62. I’m starting to genuinely hope to miss out on CL this year. As devastating as it would be, I feel we need something like that to happen to break this cycle of 3rd/4th place finishes. We’re the fucking Arsenal! Winning the league is what we shoot for and maybe a cataclysmic finish to the season is what the owner/board/manager/whomever else responsible needs to be reminded of that. Can’t blame our players because we have had an almost complete turnover in the last couple years and we’re still seeing the same problems. Common sense dictates that the problem is elsewhere.

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  63. all HAIL footballing reasons, clueless yanks, greedy, outta touch cunts on the board and a manager who clearly has lost the appetite and cheque book to win things., his consistent non existent defence, gotta love how much we tax what little talent we do have in the squad and then wonder why the fuck we pick up as many injuries as we do!

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  64. perhaps i just don’t notice but to me it doesn’t seem like there’s much chat going on. I can remember one example where fulham had a corner and sagna, kos and per all lent over to mess with their socks.

    I’m so fed up of trying to figure out whats wrong with us. I think that comes from the fact there are just too many problems.

    Maybe the interlull will revert us back to how we were before the last one…

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  65. You have to give credit to Fulham, who played really well today. Problem is, most teams fancy their chances against us now and put in performances like the opposition did today.

    We really need to raise our game for next week and go on a little run. Otherwise I fear for our top 4 status

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  66. Why didn’t Arshavin fight to take the penalty?

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    • why didnt anyone else fight to take the penalty! anyone!!

      and by the way someone said they arent playing for the manager… I cant ever remember PLAYING for a manager who conastantly beats into our heads that finishing under 3 other teams is ‘like winning another trophy’ and I never would…

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  67. This team is going down hill so quickly after such a bright start its driving me up the wall. How can the board and Arsene sit by and let this happen we are not going to win anything and we will not qualify for CL next year.

    Most expensive season tickets, food, hospitality in the EPL and nothing to show for it except a nice bank balance for stan.

    I actually cancelled SKY sports today after this shit fest

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    • Why didn’t you cancel it at the start of the season when we sold our best player-s and didn’t buy enough to cover the scars?
      We ve been very lucky last year to finish in the CL. This season…huh I hope but hopes are not enough…
      I ll continue support our club but I ll try not to feel sorry for them cos they are earning lots of money.
      Arteta should have score!!! Vermaelen should be benched, Ramsey to reserves… Santos soooold

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  68. I would have scored that penalty.

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    • Hate to say it but lethal Robin would for sure scored.

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      • Seem to remember him missing one earlier this season, actually. And Arteta is now 10/11 of his most recently PKs, so it’s not like he doesn’t have the numbers in his favor theoretically, either.

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  69. 11 points behind united if they win today.. 11 matches 16 points out 33 posibly.. The team have not performed as they should do, and our biggest problem is our defense. And on the paper arsenals defense is one of the best in premier league, something is really wrong.

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  70. Anyone know the number for anger management? The Samaritans will do

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  71. Can anyone explain to me why the arsenal.com website states the following:

    Wenger: ‘We have shown that we can fight’

    HOW?

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  72. safe then boys

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  73. Honestly, I’m sick of hearing what Arsene and the players have to say before and after matches. They say the same stuff every single time and the outcome’s always the same. Something needs to change ASAP!!

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  74. The problems wouldnt have gone away even if we had won it 4-3; It is quite clear that the team is very low on confidence and mistakes are always very likely. I have mentioned just before the match that we wont win anything with TV5 as captain, and despite Arteta’s concession of the penalty and missing one himself, I still believe he should be captain. Also I didnt see the award of our penalty but Matt Le Tissier says it was really harsh and Arteta struck his pen quite well but Schwarzer guessed correctly.

    The thing is, it seems to me that AW is really stubborn; Arshavin gets about 10mins only and makes a difference but Ramsey plays for around 25-30mins and is almost sent off. Why doesnt a young starlet like Eisfeld get a chance?

    With the defence, well, it looked almost full strength on defensive merit, but we still conceded 3 goals. I dont think in all of the time AW has been at the club, that he has signed a top-class reliable CB…a few have been decent, like the ones we currently have, but really he has come up short in this area. Some of you may mention Sol Campbell, but actually, AW didnt want him…it was Sol who wanted to join Arsenal and was a success.

    With the captaincy again, anyone remember how Gallas was made captain for some strange reason but more importantly how Gilberto was stabbed in the back by finding out this news on the internet. This is all down to AW himself and not just the inept board members, who themselves have alot to answer for.

    Transfer-wise, we really need a CB who isnt like a David Luiz, but more like a Martin Keown, and the player I advocate is Phil Jagielka from Everton. The other I feel would benefit the team would be a wide player and I think Ben Arfa would take us to the next level, but if wants to go a bit cheaper, then there is Isco, Munian etc. I think as well a strong DMC is required and I really feel an M’Vila or Capoue would give us that extra muscle we need in difficult situations.

    But until then, things will not get any better.

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  75. In hindsight Nasri wasn’t such a cunt.

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  76. Clichy's Bizarre New Hair

    How soon before other teams start sniffing around Cazorla and Giroud and they decide to leave for a team that matches their “ambition”? I wish I was fucking joking but they are both class and clearly have a massive hunger to win. Fucking hell…

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  77. Red & White Stripey Socks

    Fair result! What’s happened to our defence? Have Steve B and Arse really had a bust up?
    Giroud looks like he’s having fun though. Felt he might have taken the penalty.

    Hot spunk next week then! :-(

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  78. I know not everyone will agree. But this is the second league game in a row that I REFUSE to watch.
    I checked Blog’s updates from time to time, and I was 70% sure we would miss the penalty.
    Overall, I feel a lot better, less depressed than usual.
    I fucking love the Arsenal, but it is driving me to depression. And I can’t have that.

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  79. SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    And at this point, I really don’t know if it’s a new coach, new players, new tactics, a new board… But SOMETHING needs to change.

    Even at some points last season watching Arsenal brought me great joy, but this season is pure depressing misery.

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  80. i’m starting to think, maybe nasri and rvp weren’t such cunts afterall, i mean, you’ve really got to ask yourself, if they’re cunts for leaving the arsenal over money, then the board are just as cuntish, if not more, for letting the club fall into the state it is now as compared to where we should/could be.

    Can’t slate them for leaving to win things when

    1) they look way more likely to win things

    2) we look even more likely to bottle whatever we can.

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    • Don’t let this game delude you — both RVP and Nasri are both cunts. It’s just that our board is comprised of them as well.

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  81. I know fuck all about economics, but how and why does Kroenke think he’ll get any more money by having us slip down to mid-table, than if we continued competing for the title? Is Arsenal a short or long term investment for this cunt?

    If he just wants to completely strip us of assets and then throw us in administration while he walks off (is that legal) then okay, but I just want to know the truth rather than watching my club in a freefall limbo.

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    • It’s honestly pathetic. The board has no pride in the club.

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      • I really want to know. Highly unlikely anyone outside of his entourage would have any information, but I honestly would love some insight into this – why is he doing this? It’s as if he hates the club, it’s as if he’s a spurs fan, buying us just to watch us freefall and laugh.

        I object to any idea of Usmanov’s blood money financing this club as well, but I can’t find any rational explanation for Kroenke’s behaviour apart from some extremely malevolent scenario.

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  82. Get a grip all doom merchants you are completely clueless if you thought we would challenge with our squad our aim is top four and a cup hate to say it but thats were we are no world class talent what use guys expecting ! Long hard few years ahead get behind team for a change or fuck off !

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    • Yep, gonna be a long, painful season for all involved. Except maybe for the board, who don’t care about anything but money.

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    • Why don’t you “fuck off”. It’s ambitionless supporters like you that are helping to send this club to hell.

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      • scuse me mate, but were not ambitionless, we just dont think continually ranting about how shit we are is that helpful.

        check the definition of ‘ football supporter ‘ on wikipedia.

        we have problems upstairs, but if we got behind the team occasionally we might do a bit better on the pitch.

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  83. Sorry to make the comparison, but look at United. 2-0 down, win 3-2. Worst squad Ferguson’s ever had, wage bill not that much more than arsenal, but they’ve got resilience, fighters, never bottle it. If Ferguson was in charge of this Arsenal side they’d be 1st or 2nd, if Wenger was in charge of this United side, they’d be mid-table.

    It’s entirely down to management. Wenger is completely lost and my respect for him diminishes with every passing week. Sad thing is, I wonder to myself why Wenger does not quit – if I was him I’d give up because it’s getting embarrassing, yet the board are so clueless they cannot see that he’s the biggest problem.

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    • The solution is not to kick wenger, then we will become the next liverpool.. Changing managers each year and all with different tactics, and who the fuck would replace him?? I don´t think many world class managers would like to work with a profit fucking board money loving cunt style board. 0 to spend on players, and can´t offer arsenals best players a decent salary.

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    • I partially agree with this in that they lack a resilience and fighting spirit. But if United had the same budget as arsenal they would be way down the bottom of the table. Sir Alex has not got a deal on a player or unearthed talent since the 90s. Wenger is the man for the job but the mentality needs to change. They should not be celebrating equalisers just wins.All those lost points add up.

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      • are you fucking mad? If Man Ure had our (not small) budget they would still do well because they have a team spirit drummed into them and the manager wouldnt accept anything else.
        Unlike our manager who puts up with mediocrity week in week out

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    • Agree about Wenger vs Fergueson

      Also BS about Fergueson not having any player develop within or getting a good find. Hernandez, who saved them tonight, was not very expensive. Cleverly and Welbeck are academy players. but most importantly, his team always looks like they believe they can win.

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  84. This is total fucking bullshit, can’t even be bothered to watch Arsenal anymore.

    It’s just getting progressively worse every season.

    Don’t get me wrong I’m no glory hunter and I can completely handle losing, but after seeing player after player leave and going through the same ok defensive fuck ups, while mediocre players are just going through the motions and picking up massive wages, and then selling our captain and best player to Man U so Hill-Wood and co can line thier pockets further.

    It’s all just too much.

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    • Dnt worry, Ramsey won’t play forever, :) and something will change for us… clocks are ticking… new people will come… one day!

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  85. Unlike most of the fans I sit near, the lack of trophies was never a biggie for me, we pay a lot for our tickets and the quality of the football we played each week made most games a pleasure, even with the pain when we occasionally lost or drew. Constant possession, chance after beautifully constructed chance created, those were the days.

    The quality of the football at home this season has been dire and that’s what really worries me. The way things are going long balls up to Giroud will become the norm.

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    • Yeah, never bothered me that Arsenal did not win trophies. Really bothers me that they are painful to watch, or like tonight, a little too exciting. Most of the games since the interlull have been a chore to watch and I can’t get very excited about these players.

      I’m happy for Giroud, we probably have not scored so many headers in an entire season. But you just can’t compare our strikeforce (Poldi, Giroud, Walcott) to that of Chelsea, ManU, or ManCity.

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      • …or Everton? Jelavic is much better player then Giroud and also the whole Everton team is playing with a heart, and it also looks more arsenal then we are!

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  86. one more thing, anyone noticed how wenger is far more passive in his post match interview. he’s been praising opposition players and teams when we muck up. i don’t see the fire that used to be there, when you could tell he was gutted the team lost or threw points away. he would even look physically sick after some losses.

    i could be wrong, hope i am, but i think he’s getting tired with defending the way the club is run. wenger is the one that takes the hit. what other managers for ‘top’ clubs have to put up with the restrictions that are imposed upon him and the team? i don’t believe for a second that he considers selling his best players a good move. something is rotten behind the scenes.

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  87. shouldn’t the strikers be taking the penalty?

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    • Ramsey should! It would hit the crossbar!

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    • IMO goalscoring opportunity should be left for a striker to boost their confidence and competitiveness by adding it to their tally.
      if we were leading the game then any player can take it.

      however, im not hating on arteta for wanting to make up for his mistake, the very least the intention was good. but sometimes you just have to think of the bigger picture given the score was 3-3.
      but its not his fault that the team let in the other 2 goals in the first place and hes been playing out of position for us.

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  88. Nice to see Giroud scoring but man it feels like ages since we have won a game

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    • It has. (I mean, especially since the last game we won was so lucky, with Arteta’s possibly offside scrappy goal nabbing us the three points.)

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  89. The penalty against us was the direct result of an ABSOLUTE SHIT PASS to Arteta inside our box.

    There was no reason to put the ball in a dangerous position like that. Kick it out for the restart or hoof it up the line.

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    • I saw that pass played to him and thought, I know Arteta’s good, but he’s not a miracle worker, for fuck’s sake.

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  90. there is not enough movement off the ball, the players just stand around waiting for something to happen. They need more of a winning mentality, when giroud scored he ran over to celebrate as if they won the league he should have picked up the ball and ran back to midfield.

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  91. Wenger out

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  92. giroud and walcott were the only players who rated anything close to “good” today. i guess cazorla was “good” but unfortunately we depend on him to be tremendous every game. gave the ball away in the middle of the park too many times (ramsey & arteta, we’re looking at you. actually, coquelin wasn’t much good either.)

    not calling for wenger’s head or anything, but he’s really the only common denominator in these squads over the last few years, none of which have been able to provide anything close to *consistent* quality. i know we all feel like we’re one player/performance away from brilliance & trophies, but the sad fact is that we’re are at least that close (and likely closer) to mid-table mediocrity and not much else promising going forward. this team’s a fucking mess.

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  93. this is just bollocks. i should print screen this page and send to Wenger. Were all pissed off basically….arent we?? 11 games in and we all pretty much have lost our belief that we will achieve anything this season, once again. Even the most biased fan cant ignore this crap. Vermaelen quite clearly cant deal with captaincy. Defence is falling to bits. I honestly can say that i cant see us finishing in Champs league position…….dropping SO many points. Im losing faith in the management. Sorry Wenger………..Who else can take the blame? other than out knackered players that dont get rested or rotated. But then thats your responsibility to. I cant help but feel we fans are getting mugged off. My message to the team would be keep going boys. Yours, OUR clubs and us fans prides at stake!

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  94. Fulham were rubbish and we were worse. Get wenger out, saddens me but enough is enough, we are miles away from every club above us, we will win nothing with wenger in charge, no tactics, no real fight until it was too late again, players out of position, mist fans have got used to it, things have to change.

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    • Charlieboy

      And who would replace him do you think, probably some manager in the romanian third division, that works for free? Because that is what the board would give us, to make some profits. We should support Wenger instead not many people could do the job he is doing with 0 to spend on new players and he can´t offer the best players an good salary.. All this shit is the boards fault not wenger..

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      • What do you mean who could replace him? Why do you rate him so highly? DO you really think other managers cannot organise a defence better than Wenger, motivate the players better or put as better tactical system in place.

        What the hell are you so frightened of? We are nowhere under Wenger. Won nothing for 8 seasons and competed for very little, he’s simply not going to give you what you want. If Pardew, Moyes and Redknapp can challenge for top four then dozens of other managers can – and some can do better.

        Stop this obssessive parise of Wenger, he is completely overrated and many managers all over Europe could not only do a better job but would love to have the job. And STOP blaming the board. If Wenger thinks the board is not backing him he should resign. It’s not that the board to do not support him, they give him too much support. And look at the crap he’s bought in the last 5 seasons, complete waste of money.

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      • Wenger is a wanker

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    • Wenger forever! Board should do something but they wont as long money is droping to their laps.

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  95. Why is it that this magical, amazing spirit that wenger so fondly talks of only seems to come about within the team when we go a goal down to these teams? Why can’t we attack and defend with urgency from the first whistle. I just don’t understand why this team only seems to wake up and actually try when we go a goal down! It irritates the fuck out of me and after today I’m unbelievably frustrated.. Ruined my day

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  96. O, I’ve supported every manager but wenger for at least 3 seasons has ridden his luck, he has no tactics, no plan b, even plan doesnt work any more, players out of position, no decent gk or back up, lack of motivation week in week out, selling all our best players every year, the worst injury record for the last 5 years, no defensive improvement for years, sideways boring football, I could cope with all that and losing, what I can’t cope with is not trying and lack of effort, ok, a rough spell fine, but that doesn’t excuse not fighting for every ball and lost cause, only 3 players put in any kind of acceptable effort today and that was giroud, coq

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  97. Can we have a new manager, please?

    The one we have doesn”t know what he’s doing

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  98. And wally, fuck me we couldn’t even take a throw in! A foul throw! Lousy lousy lousy, get wenger out now, giroud should of had the balls to take the penalty, and I know it’s in the past but santos swapping shirts at half tome last week just about sums up the arsenal right now, we are paying more money than anyone to watch this dross in the world, get him out get pep in or moyles or anyone without a hitler type regime, this is not good enough and it’s people like o who continue to bury their heads in the sand. Very sad.

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    • Charlieboy. No manager in the world could win the premiership with arsenals current squad. We got many good players, but no world class player. And that is what you need if you want to challenge for the premiership.

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      • We actually have a number of world class players, Podolski, Cazorla, Diaby, Sagna and Koscielny, not forgetting Wiltshire and Walcott. We may not have a Premiership winning team, but we sure as hell should be doing a shit load better than we current are.

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  99. Is the “Bould effect” still on?

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  100. as a team we have to stop shipping goals, oppositions are clearly understanding the fact that no matter if we score 2,3 or 4 goals, there are always chances to make a comeback against arsenal.

    at 2-0 up we still had plenty of time to play, at that time our priority is to run down the clock while keeping possession.

    also i dont understand our set piece tactic. why do we play zonal defending? time and time again we leave the opposing talismans free to score.

    wenger needs to be more dynamic, he doesnt have the best players in the world to disregard strategies.

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  101. Really not good enough, once again this season. Year after year it’s becoming harder to understand how inadequacies in this team remain. Take one step forward and two steps back.

    How we can enter a season without a player who can score us 20+ goals a season and expect to challenge for trophies is beyond me…

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  102. Fulham aren’t a bad side…but going 3-2 down from 2-0 up at home is unacceptable,unprofessional,& simply not good enough for a club like Arsenal.
    This ‘team’ ,& this squad have problems so deep rooted that there is no ‘quick fix’-
    Our defence is comical,Santos or not,our ‘team spirit’ has fucked off to greener pastures (Reading game excluded) & ‘THE ARSENAL’ is a club in decline.The knives are being sharpened..lets hope they’re blunted by tea time next Saturday.
    Come on you gunners…(FFS!)

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  103. O, who is responsible for the squad we have? Wenger is, he chooses the players and he picks the 11, he can’t motivate them, he needs replacing, I don’t like it, I wish it hadn’t come to this but he needs to go.

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    • The board is partly responsible for the squad we got, you get what you pay for aight? Wenger choose who he wants to buy. If we are going to replace Wenger, we must replace him with the right manager, or we might become the new liverpool. I seriously doubt that Guardiola would take over arsenal…

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  104. Did anyone else think Koscielny had a better game. He looks to be improving and has more discipline then Vermaelen right now

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  105. We do need a change right now and Wengers time is up. He put this team toghether all by himself, no one else to blame, not the board, not oilmoney, nothing. He`s had money to spend and a huge wage budget but the way he spends it shows how out of touch he is.

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  106. Just a quick look at historic tells us this:
    Arsenal 05-06 lineup: Lehman, A.Cole, Campbell, Toure, Lauren, Fabregas, Flamini, G. Silva, Pires, Henry, Bergkamp
    Arsenal 08-09 lineup (against Fulham)(0:0 draw): Almunia, Clichy, Gallas, Toure, Sagna, Na$ri, Arshavin, Denilson, Diaby, Vela, Van der Cuntsie
    Arsenal’s today lineup against Fulham: Mannone, Sagna, Koscielny, Metersacker, Vermaelen, Coquelin, Arteta, Cazorla, Walcott, Giroud, Podolski

    To me this looks like a declining team over the last how many years ??

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  107. He's got not hair but we don't care...

    Here is the worrying fact, the recent Arsenal of old (if that makes sense!) would bounce back very quickly after a bad result. Even if it was against a relatively easy team, we’d bounce back, get a 1-0 win and then more importantly, we’d get another couple to cement our position near the top.

    That has gone.

    The worry is those vital bounce back wins now become a mechanism for keeping us in touch with the ITV4 scum ridden Europa cup places and not the top 4.

    I love him but Wenger must go.

    He has transformed the British game more than any manager in history, since our very own legend, Herbert Chapman but his time with our great club is up.

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  108. Is Vermaelen really a better left back than Santos, or is there a greater need to keep the captain on the pitch? Yet again we didn’t control the midfield, which to my mind we haven’t done since pre West Ham (we did not control that game). This still feels weird. We seriously miss Diaby, and Rosicky.

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    • Our midfielders are wiped out, especially since they have to do extra work with Vermaelen and Santos making asses out of themselves on the pitch.

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  109. Some of you really need to stop making Ramsey a scapegoat. If you actually KNOW football you could see that Coquelin contributed nothing during the time he was on the pitch. Poor defensively, didn’t track back for Kacaniklic’s goal when even Arteta was bursting his lungs out. And Coquelin was offensively poor as well, no drive, didn’t make space to receive the ball. Watch the first half again and you can see that everytime our defenders are on the ball they can’t move it forward as Arteta is marked out, and Coquelin is nowhere to be seen. The moment Ramsey came on you could instantly see drive, forward movement in our play. I admit he isn’t exactly Gerrard but by some of your comments on here you’d think we lost the game because of him. He was not even on the pitch for any of Fulhams goal, barring the penalty in which he wasn’t even responsible. He’s average, maybe but dear me have some perspective people.

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  110. We as fans always remember The Arsenal Way, which renders us too classy to boycott our seats. I think we need a new Arsenal Way, only because we are now losing die hard passion for the sake of dignity.

    AC Milan fans are not turning up for games, because suddenly their best player is Kevin Prince Boateng. We don’t have to drop to that level before we take action.

    Management on all levels have sucked the life out of the club.

    Utd are already making eyes at Wilshere, Theo and the Ox. You seriously cannot blame them for leaving. Our boys have to mingle with Utd players on twice the money and quadruple the medals whilst on England duty. Why should Cleverley get more from his career than Wilshere. Or Young than Theo? Or Rooney than Ox? That’s what their agents will be saying, and I don’t blame them either. You can add Jenks and Gibbs to that list.

    Wenger doesn’t have that skill to win consistently. What Wenger had was a philosophy that brought consistent results once upon a time. SAF is a learner [and even willfully learnt from Wenger], Wenger is just a teacher of his own ideas.

    The fans are seriously disillusioned:

    1. We are using a captain who is behind Djourou in terms of passion.
    2. We actually have a great squad, but we need to replace Song and RVP, it’s obvious we have not replaced quality for quality.
    3. I heard Arsene saying we aim to play with a ‘spanish style’, what a fucking nonsense…
    4….. Wouldn’t mind David Moyes

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  111. If you look at Man U team sheet on MOTD. You will find that there is always some kind of change of personnel and formation. Even today Fergie bought Hernandez on for the Start of second half. In short, they are incredibly flexible and they always have been. Infact no one rotates his players better than Fergie but they still win. We were always rigid which could work for short term but not for long term. I don’t think any of our players are rubbish except Ramsey but if you keep playing them twice a week then they will surely burn out. The whole team looks jaded specially midfield. Wenger has no choice but to play them and each bad result is making harder for him to try new things.

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    • And because our defense is weak (esp. on the left), our midfielders are tasked with even more work. Pretty unfair demands, and pretty unsurprising results.

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  112. Scum next weekend. Santi will be even more jaded from travelling back from Panama. Guarantee you Ramsey will start the game!

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  113. Team feels like its still in pre-season. Never really got going. Is it me or has the dream Podolski-Carzola partnership broken down? And how can they be tired already? Its just November. Whats gonna happen by April when our team actually hits the wall every year? Think we need to freshen up the team. New formation. Always been a fan of 4-4-2. Santi was a winger before he came to us. Play him and Walcott out wide with Arshavin as the classic number 10. Giroud looks like he can lead the line. Wilshire and Arteta in the centre. With Podolski and the Ox off hte bench will give us a good option as well. And we can always see out games by bringing on LeCoq towards the end. But this just isn’t working. Arteta cannot go a full season as the DM. It was like when Fergie tried to turn Alan Smith into Roy Keane. That part of the game doesn’t come to him naturally and he’s wasted there. He was really good going forward last season for us.
    Also why was Miachi allowed to go out on loan? SAw him for Bolton last season and he’s a good winger. Likes taking people on. Would make a great sub atleast. And Eastmond as DM if AW doesn’t want to spend. But really can’t see us reaching the end respectably without investment.

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  114. Wenger OUT! Take Gazidis, the Board and Kroenke with you. Unfortunately, when you are on GBP 7 mil, it will not happen. Poor Arsenal FC, sorry for the fans.

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  115. Carzola and Areta are knackerd and we all can clearly see it… Why can’t Wenger? You can say it’s a lack of options but don’t tell me that we don’t have enough players to try a different formation to give these 2 guys a rest cause they have been playing non stop since the season started especially Carzola and it is so easy to see that

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  116. We don’t even manage to keep possession now…

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  117. Unless Arsenal learn to win ugly as during the Graham era, we will continue to struggle. This is one of the best teams we have had over the years ability wise. But the lack of application at times is just unbelievable. One moment we are playing the champions off the park at their place and the next we are tamely rolling over for the manure scum.
    Yes, we have lost talent after talent each year but you cannot put the blame solely on wenger. The people behind the contract renewals are doing an abmysal job at it. How the likes of bendtner, denilson, Squid, remain on long terms contracts is beyond me. While the likes of Na$ri, Van Per$ie and now Sagna and Walcott have only an year or two left. We never seem to hear about bendtner or denilson being on their last two years or such. Its like blogs said. We seem to value potential over ability. We take massive risks with players such as diaby and gibbs based on their potential despite their injury record.
    Unless we strengthen the squad and i m not advocating whole changes and massive spending, we will always have that gap between us and the eventual champions. The squad rule of 25 means that the team that has the greatest in depth quality will be nearer the summit of the table. We now seem to have a core of 15-16 players. Being the injury prone team that we are, a couple of injuries seem to leave us having to trust youngsters or players not fit to play the position.
    Tis the state of our beloved club but Arsenal through and through!

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  118. after listening to piers morgan on radio about against good intentions for arsenal and against wenger, it made me think this

    be careful what you wish for

    first I am an arsenal fan have attended 12 games away games in last two years including nou camp.

    Wenger had a team on the pitch against fulham with 8 international of top countries – so a good team.

    Imagine the bigger picture if Wenger was pushed –
    He wouldn’t go upstairs. and help the club , as his is stubborness. He wouldn’t be paid as much and he would move a new job. Real Madrid, Russia or China.

    Tony Adams has said ‘ arsene wenger worst loser he met in football’ – he meant this as a compliment.

    So Wenger would have to be gentle lead in that way eventually.

    If Wenger was pushed , he wouldn’t help arsenal put a successor in place, and My worry is it would be up to Gavidis and Silent stan to pick the new manager…

    Wenger is the only football brain still at board level at arsenal. YEs Bould, Liam Brady, but does anyone on board listen to them.

    The bigger picture is we lost our best playing and best paid striker and midfield club captains in RVP and CESC now the could lose to our BEST PAID CLUB CAPTAIN MANAGER to our rivals.

    wenger would get another job – real madrid , have always been in for wenger in past and jose M may. move on to either of the Manchester clubs in couple of years.

    and we’d rely on gazidis and silent stan picking a manager…a cheap manager…there business model suggest – if you look at what they do with the players

    who would we get in other mangers expensive. , roberto marteniz – he was too expensive for liverpool so why would we pay his salary when it’s all about balance sheets, neil warnock…. dennis bergkamp please

    a manager with limited money and salaries to offer fo reinvestment

    players join arsenal for
    champions league football
    playing for arsene wenger
    arsenal history
    location london
    decent wages [ not best ,decent]

    wenger is undeniably a reason players join arsenal. and doing well with board constrants

    Be careful what you wish for when saying change the manager.

    We have the players to do well this season.

    2nd point

    arsene’s arsenal have won nothing since we change from 442 /4411 to 433/451. FACT

    we everything [ bar league cup ] with…442

    when i talk to other arsenal fan they say wenger may be too stubborn to change back formations, but i reckon this is a great top solid team

    which will solve Theo situation and get best out of giroud and podolski

    Team 442… til transfer window

    gk schzeny…

    rb sagna
    lbgibbs
    cb mertz
    cb vermarlin

    midfield – key bit

    rm – oxo
    cen mid – arteta
    cen mid – wiltshire
    lm – cazola – [where he played for malaga alot]

    forward – walcott
    forward – giroud / podolski – we want podolski in box not on wing

    pace power and goals and players in the box

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