Szczesny confirms dressing room blast

Szczesny confirms dressing room blast

Reports abound this morning that after the Swansea game assistant manager Steve Bould let rip at the players, accusing them of not taking responsibility and letting the club down.

While Arseblog News is certainly a bit cynical that three different newspapers carried the same exclusive – almost as if they were all briefed by the same person – it does apppear as if something went down. Speaking to Arsenal Player after the game, goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny said, “We had a little conversation that was louder than usual but what happens in the dressing room stays in the dressing room.”

According to the Mirror, Steve Bould shouted: “You’ve let us down and you’ve been letting us down all season. None of you are taking responsibility.”

It remains to be seen how the players will react to the dressing room dressing down, but clearly something needed to be said after another lacklustre performance resulted in a 2-0 home defeat to Swansea.

Meanwhile, Arsene Wenger could leave a host of players behind as the team travels to Greece for tomorrow night’s Champions League game with Olympiacos.

The Gunners have already qualified for the knock-out stages and with the the team described as ‘jaded’ by Arsene Wenger, the likes of Arteta, Cazorla, Wilshere and Podolski could all stay behind with rare starts mooted for Chamakh, Arshavin and Francis Coquelin.

More team news throughout the day.

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  1. Apologies for being cynical but this Bould “letting rip at the squad” sounds like a classic (poorly executed) PR stunt to me.

    Seriously, has it taken this long to “have a rip” at the squad? Should have been done right from the Chelsea game onwards.

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    • I also thought the PR team needed this kinda info out there to appease some of the fans and show that something’s really cooking. Personally I really don’t think new players in January can fully change the mentality in this squad. Depth will provide an added boost to the squad but it seems more and more that Arsenal’s problems seem to be mental.

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      • You obviously have no idea who Bould is or was as a player if you think that. He will be sickened by the lack of fight some players have shown. Not all I will add, as some are trying well into the last few minutes. Giroud, Cazorla, Wilshere, Sagna, Gibbs and Szczesny spring to mind (I say Szcz as his reaction to the 2 Swansea goals summed up his feelings for the club and how gutting it was).

        I think this squad needed a good blast and it may just be PR, but it could also be a case of Bould finally feeling that he deserves to be Wenger’s assistant and was stamping his authority as an ex-player that has won trophies.

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    • When Steve used to be U18 trainer he let them know what he thinks of their performance at half time when they were losing and I think many of this matches ended up in wins for us. I really hope that it will have same effect for the 2nd half of the season.

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  2. Really hope Swansea was our Blackburn ’97 game. Rock bottom, where the players realise this isn’t good enough.

    The downside is this time around, there’s no Adams, Dixon, Winterburn etc to help Bouldy throw the tea cups about.

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    • I hope so too, but something tells me it won’t be. I have a feeling, even if we pick up our form after this, it will be stuttering rather than explosive. I do feel something is broken inside the club – has been for a while – and the plaster over the cracks is coming off as well.

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    • I remember thinking we should sack Arsene after that game, and we went on to play the most enjoyable half season I’ve experienced. However I don’t think we have players who bleed Arsenal anymore, or who are desperate to achieve things. Our performances are insipid. We need an Adams charachter who will let players know if they aren’t doing their job. There seems to be so much wrong at the moment I’m not sure where you begin to start. I do wonder if the only way forward is to get a new man in Who can look at the squad objectively.

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      • We have players that bleed Arsenal, just not enough of them. You see the players that have come through the youth team and their reactions to losing or drawing show the pain of knowing the team should be better.

        You look at Jack wanting to play every game and almost sulking when he’s a sub (not in a bad way, he just wants to be on the field), Szczesny’s reactions to the late Swansea goals, Gibbs wanting to get back and showing our left side is far better with him in it, etc…

        We seem to have 3 types of players –
        1) The ‘fight for the club’ ones
        2) The ‘we’re happy to play and just go through the motions’ ones
        3) The ‘we’re happy to pick up our payslips’ ones
        I
        f we can just get more of the 1’s, then we’d bet fine and have those fighting to make the club great again. Unfortunately, their are too many 3’s and you can never tell who they are going to be when they first sign. Take Chamakh as an example; he looked like a steal when he first signed. 10 goals in the first few months and then van Persie came back. The lack of fight shown to get his place back was extraordinary and, despite RvP leaving, he looks like he’s happy not being in the line of fire from the fans.

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      • I would say Jenkinson and frimpong are the only others in group 1 I can think of off the top of my head.
        Seeing Walcott on Saturday you realise he’s lead the club a merry dance. He’s scored some goals and got himself noticed, now he probably has agreed a contract elsewhere on big money and doesn’t want to get injured. I said it from the start that he should have just been left to rot in the reserves until he committed to the club but Arsene isn’t tough enough on these players. I wonder how many big clubs would have wanted him after 12 months with no football? It not like Van Persie, we’re going to lose him for nothing so why should we put any of our resources into training him.

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      • I think Rosicky is a fighter too. Sagna was. I think Sagna is really disappointed with the club lately but he still plays as much as he can.
        Dnt forget Wilshere. He is there, not at his best yet.

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      • Arteta and Mertesacker spring to mind. I give Arteta a break because he’s obviously dead tired from being asked to play 90 minutes of every game, doing some pretty thankless and exhausting work as DM.

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  3. I think a good bollocking has been severely needed for this current Arsenal squad. They are playing like strangers, which is weird because they should have been feeling much better about themselves after the NLD.
    They are good players, but the lack of depth and rotation is making them tired and unmotivated. United and City have at least 4 different strikers who can do the job reliably, we have just 1. So do Chelsea, and for this both the clubs are being found out. I feel in some matches we should go 442 just to give Arteta a rest and play Coquelin a little. But again, if that were the answer, it might have been put in play before.
    As much as I hate to admit it, at times like these you need a captain like van Persie was last season: people looked upto him and he set an example when he played. As much as I love Vermaelen, he has just started finding form, and in many games, including the Swansea one, he just wasn’t able to pick up the team and lead them. A captain should, regardless of his form, be able to send a strong message to his team.
    As the days pass, the hurt reduces, little by little. Believe in the shirt is all I can say.

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    • “regardless of his form”

      Wrong. You can set an example only if you play like a leader. Verm is moving on the pitch like a drunken idiot nowadays, so he cannot set examples and has no right shouting. And I feel he knows it as well because almost everytime Arteta is the spokesperson.

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      • Vermaelen’s last few performances have been pretty good, there was that hairy moment when Dyer got through but aside from that he’s actually turned it around; I know it’s easy to forget but our defence has actually done well the last few games.

        It’s the ‘jaded’ midfield and impotent attack that deserve the brunt of it. Along with whoever allowed the team to get to the point whereby Wenger doesn’t want to change it up because he doesn’t trust the replacements, incidentally that’s something which makes me think Wenger is less culpable in terms of the lack of investment than is widely accepted.

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      • John Terry, despicable cunt as he is, has always established authority as captain for his club no matter what controversies happened on or off the pitch. Even when his form dipped last season, everyone knew who the big daddy was, it was Terry. Vermaelen needs to be that authority figure. And he has it in him, he just needs to be like that when the team are in the doldrums, and not only when we are on a high and the atmosphere is good. We need warriors. Not comparing Verma to Terry at all, just saying that form/controversy should not play a part in having authority as captain.
        And finally, I think the ineptness of our midfield and attack is down to 2 things:
        1. Players being unmotivated and tired from being played into the ground.
        2. Them knowing that their starting berth is pretty much guaranteed no matter how they play because we don’t have credible alternatives.
        Gervinho only starts games because Wenger thinks Arshavin isn’t good enough. Podolski got a run of games when he was absolutely pathetic because there was no one else to do the job. This festers as complacency and a ‘dont-give-a-fuck’ attitude.
        The January transfer window will be crucial.

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  4. That rollicking should have come about 2 months ago after the Norwich game.

    Lets hope it sorts out the drivel we have been seeing lately.

    Maybe the rest will do some good to those who stay behind, we need points now.

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    • Norwich deserved their win. They are fighting hard this year…have knocked off Man and us. Should have been right from the get go – the team still feels too unsure of itself – need direction, communication and confidence

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  5. You don’t undo 6 or 7 years of being nice and positive NO MATTER WHAT with one dressing room tirade.

    Arsene isn’t good at motivating his players when things aren’t going well. He should ha e done something about this a long time ago. And maybe we would still have Cesc and Van Pesie.

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    • I really question Arsene’s logic sometimes. I remember watching the United-Reading game as United were conceding goals from crosses launched from the right side of their defence. Sir Alex just stood up called Smalling to sub Rafael- who was pissed- so as to bring in a big CB to block some of those runners off the ball. The sub was done on the 30th minute. Contrast that with Arsene’s 70th minute subs. Remember Arshavin for the Ox last season? MAAAADD. What struck me as well was Rafael’s reaction. He really was pissed but it seemed he was really angry at himself. He wanted to do it right but couldn’t and it was eating at him till the final whistle. He didn’t even smile. That is a freaking WINNER/FIGHTER. Contrast that with shirt swapping while putting in a sh*t performance. Contrast that with numerous hugs given to opposition players after a humiliating loss. WTF?

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      • Very good opinion and I agree with you but please don’t copy this rant under every other unrelated posts (like the Gervinho one, etc.)

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  6. Only surprise is if the players hadn’t a got an earful much earlier! And Bould should not have to seek permission to tell the players the truth: that they’ve been dreadful and an embarrassment to the Arsenal.

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  7. Tuesday match is a proper avenue for Wenger to access Einsfield, cus we still have over 7 matches to be played this year, a young blood in the midst of experience wont hurt. he may have the ability to add something new to the already mentally jaded group we have.

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      • Eisfield has not even been put in the team mate,Don’t know if he ever will be he will go the same way as all the rest out the door.

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  8. Lmao. Just had a vision of the players whos english isnt that great, confronted by big bouldy screaming at them……….thinking wtf is he saying?! With a bit of poo in their pants haha!! But seriously im fed up of moaning. So il just finish with the only way is up……..surely? COYG

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    • Up isnt the only way…there are still 10 places below us, so it could well get even worse.
      But it wont, come on now you gunners!!

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    • Hello Dipa

      Alas you cannot “get rid” of players with full employment contracts without paying the high financial penalties that comes if such a move..

      Additionally the market in world football is distressed ( Europe especially) and no one is willing to pay the predetermined wages of the players ( we ) the fans have lambasted on blogs and tweets, subsequently leading to their valuation being diminished.

      The dead wood will remain unless they themselves decide it could be better for their careers if they moved on. But why should they?

      Additionally, if Arsenal were to consider “buying off ” these players that is an option but I made at last count 9 players the keyword warriors wants out the door. That will be £50m ( estimate) severance pay. What would you rather do with that £50m

      If players leave this winter is because they have ambition.

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  9. I wonder if someone gave Wenger (and Bould, but to a lesser degree) a rollicking in return. The players are to blame in part, but when you see the same problems year after year with a different set of players, it points to issues in the system. Wenger must sort it out.

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    • It’s Arsene and Bouldy’s job to get at the players. They will both know however that they can do more, they aren’t stupid and you don’t get to be like them by not understanding the game. I imagine there might be a little good cop bad cop going on. Bouldy gives them a massive dressing down, puts the fear in them that is not Arsene’s trademark, then Arsene builds them up and gets them to start playing for each other again, which is his trademark. Keep the fath lads!

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  10. This is mentally the weakest team we’ve had in a long long time.
    Mid-table teams come to Emirates expecting 3 points, players looking unconcerned.
    There is no Adams or Vieira type leader which has been hurting the team but this season it is more obvious.
    Money in the bank doesn’t score goals really.

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    • We need one or two players on he park that our OWN players are scared of – players that will let them know that continually running to the press TALKING ABOUT how much they want to win just isn’t enough

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    • I would even go further and risk a hypothesis that it’s not only about leaders and mental strenght.
      We do not have any cunts or procks in this nice and smiling squad. It sure works in the office, but on a pitch you have to be either a die-hard-cunt or somebody convinced in his own superiority to never lose confidence.
      You know – Vieira was great player, but he wouldn’t miss a chance to tackle an opponent just for the taste of it. So did flamini. This is the first Arsenal side (Jack, Kos and Verm aside) that actually lives up to infamous “Arsenal – they don’t like to get stuck in”.
      And when it came to attacking Henry, Anelka, Wright or RVP – great as they were – being a little vein (think Bendtner WITH abilities) made them never err on the side of caution. In their heads they could always do it. Luckily for us outside their heads they could do it too.
      Dunno of it makes sense since i type while running.

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  11. Thankyou bouldy.

    This playere need a kick up their arses…..some literally like gervinho.

    They need to be remindes they play for the arsenal. Maybe next tim they should bring the legends such as tony adams, jens lehmann, pires to give the lads a nice pep talk.

    We need more from this team. Talent, quality all present but the will and desire is lacking. Shit!

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  12. If that had happened in the Chelski dressing room the players would have just laughed and told Rafa he won’t be ranting much longer at this Cloob.

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  13. (Presumed thought of some Arsenal players)… We want my Mummy, cause that big tall strong man is shouting at us, he is bullying us with crass swear words, saying we are not taking responsibility. We are taking responsibility. We come to work everyday for only 4 hours, then we play some football; for a few hours a week and each month end we get paid. We are doing so much during the week, playing video games, going shopping, sleeping ,so of course we get very tired and fatigue ; and naturally during the matches we just cannot for the love of God seem to put passes together to win our home games.

    …… As you all know Arsene does not often shout at his players. Bould however will shout as he is old school. I hope and pray that this tactic works because I saw Gervinho Theo Gibbs and Poldi making very little effort on Saturday.

    I also saw… Jack giving Podolski some grief and Arteta being the go- between.

    Something is not right at our club.
    I had to scroll down to find Arsenal on the League Table
    Times they are a changing.

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  14. Has the training regime change this year? Cos im sick of hearing how our Arsenal players are Jaded…..Since the World Cup Qualifying back in october thats all we have been hearing ‘the players are tired and a bit jaded’. I find it odd that No other team seems to be struggling with fitness as much as us. I know we have a small squad but its still full of youth which should be able to deal with the opening months fixtures. Very worried when it really gets heavy in late december and january….My first post dont flame flame me..just my thoughts on the fitness situation!

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  15. There are three balloons – Mummy, Daddy and Baby balloon.

    Over the early years Baby balloon has slept in the same bed as Mummy and Daddy balloon. Daddy balloon takes Baby balloon aside one day and tells him that he’s made him a new bed for him and that he is to sleep there from now on.

    During the night Baby balloon is scared sleeping on his own and so sneaks back into bed with Mummy and Daddy balloon. Baby balloon tries to squeeze in between the two of them but cant get enough room. So he reaches over and let a little air out of Mummy balloon. He tries to get in again but still doesn’t have room. He then reaches over to Daddy balloon and lets a little air out of him. Still he cant quite fit in.

    Finally he lets a little air out of himself. He fits in nicely and falls asleep.

    Unfortunately, after only five minutes, Daddy balloon wakes up, immediately realises he’s almost totally deflated and he is FURIOUS.
    “What the fuck are you doing? Didn’t I tell you sleep in your own bed?!”
    “I know, but…”
    “But what?”
    Baby tearfully explains: “Well, I was cold and it was scary, so I came in here with you. But I couldn’t fit in. So I let some air out of mummy, but there wasn’t enough room, so I let some air out of you but I still couldn’t fit in. So I let some air out of myself and I fit in – and that’s when you woke up!”

    Daddy balloon considers this very seriously for a moment.

    “Son – you’ve let me down, you’ve let your mother down, but most of all you’ve let yourself down!”

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  16. this is exactly what the players needed. they have been taking things too easy. its about time somebody shouted at them right infornt of their faces. go bould!!!

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  17. I still want to know why our defence was camped around the Swansea box when they broke out to score both goals. People blame Jenkinson for losing the ball for one of their goals, but if he had had someone else in defence to pass to, then it would never have happened. Instead both centre halves were higher up the pitch and he was isolated and under pressure.

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    • That was our Plan B in action Argonaut.

      1-0 with a few minutes to go and we stick Per upfront to make a nuisance of himself. That tells you all you need to know about our attacking options.

      And point well made with Jenks. Yes he fucked up (great hustling by their bloke having said that), but where was the help? Nowhere.

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    • It is amazing that for Michu’s 2nd goal, the only player chasing back to try and catch him was Rosicky. Where was everyone else?

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  18. The most worrying thing is this complacency, lack of form, dropping of points whatever you want to call it has been there profoundly for about 5 seasons.

    It points to failings in management as far as Im concerned and im not sure whoever we bring in player wise will change these results on the pitch.

    I do respect wengger but this pattern is quite clear and doesnt lie. He may only be suited to win when each and every player is world class.

    Its time to go bring in guardiola, laudrup, klopp someone new and successful. We need a positive change.

    the players dont respond to wenger anymore.

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  19. Not enough football at Arsenal far to much business, club making money more important than winning, need more football above Wenger

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  20. The problem is we have got a lot of players who can not even attract the interest of Reading, Aston Villa etc: Djourou, Squillaci, Chamakh, Arshavin, Manonne, Gervinho, etc. Our players lack passion and steel. we also lack a player like Yaya Toure, Thierry Henry, Rooney, Messi, Fabregas, Ballack, Tevez, who can take matters into his own hands and deliver a positive result for the club.

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  21. I have never seen an Arsenal side give away the ball so easily. The performance this season has been lackluster. Immobile football is what you see; sometimes getting a teammate to pass to is a big issue and you ask where is everyone?. Everyone is care free. After all, the boss has ready excuses for their failure and no matter how poor they play, they are sure of playing the next game.
    There’s no leader in the team, the winning mentality has never been there, we have a set of players who cannot make the first team of Norwich or even Westbrom. This is clearly not the Arsenal we use to know; they lack the technique, the desire. They are just annoyingly lazy. Slow, Slow, Slow.

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    • Out of all the histrionic bitching over a run of poor form that I’ve had to listen to this weekend, this is the most pathetic.

      Who are these players who wouldn’t get into a Norwich XI?

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      • Thereisbearcum- I think the reason for the ‘histrionic bitching’ is because many fans don’t believe this is a poor run of form, it’s actually the level we should be at because we have let quality players go year on year and we have too small a squad. Each year our standards drop a little more, at least last year we knew we had RVP, plus we had the highs of Chelsea followed by stringing a few good results together. With the exception of Spurs, I can’t think of another high so far. And it’s not like people haven’t seen this coming.

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  22. A point we are not considering, is that maybe arsene wenger has lost the dressing room. It seems to me the players are simply tuning him out and have been for a while. Doesn’t mean they don’t rate him, but when you keep hearing the same voice all the time and its not backed up by any personal achievement you tend to start rolling your eyes, when the person starts giving you his philosophies or trying to encourage you.

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    • Surely that says more about the players than the manager. So you’re basically saying that players listened to him and he won trophies but then they don’t and we end up in the mess we are now. Is that about right?
      If that were true then Arsene has won too much at Arsenal for players to be that disrespectful and to think they know better.

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  23. If it did happen then the only question is why didn’t it happen sooner, or does the club beleive the performances prior to Swansea were acceptable. I hope not.

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  24. Agree with arseblog.why not let arshavin and chamakh start for the nxt game since already qualified.at least give them a taste of champions cup. Or they wouldnt get the feel of it again after this..

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  25. I’m a pissed off African Gunner fan! Frankly, I think Wenger doesn’t have it anymore. A manager who cannot hold on to RVP-type talent, lose Alex Song and still think they can challenge for Europe in 2013? Gimme a break. Fire this guy. Why is he so holy? If Wenger is a shareholder at Arsenal, his frolic should end at the boardroom. I’m sick and tired of this mediocrity.

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    • Whatever his deficiencies are I see no benefit in sacking Arsene now. He has shown the club immense loyalty and any decision should be made at the end of the season. Furthermore, who are you going to get mid season of quality? The Dortmund manager isn’t going to jump ship and do we really trust the board to make the right appointment? We’d probably end up with Stan Collymore.

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  26. Arsene Wenger needs to ‘take responsibility’ for putting together such a pathetic squad, and having a total lack of flexibility and tactical ability.

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  27. We have a squad of very good players and a couple great players IMO. The problem seems to be motivation and getting the best from them. That’s where the manager comes into play and that’s where questions need to be asked. I’m definitely not an AKB person nor am I in the “Wenger Out” brigade but I’m fearful we’ve reached a point where the players just aren’t responding to him and it’s showing on the pitch in terms of effort. If I were Wenger I’d honestly bench the lot of them and bring up all those players on the cusp like Gnabry, Eisfeld, etc. and put them on the pitch with the couple who are really giving their all like Ox & Giroud. Let the players know their place isn’t 100% theirs. It belongs to the club and the manager!

    In short, we the fans deserve better! We deserve better effort, better results, & better communication from Arsenal about what’s gonna be done to fix things.

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    • I agree we have a squad of (maybe very) good players, but outside of the starting 11 it’s seriously weak. Quality in depth is non existent and we’ve allowed other teams below us to catch up in terms of squad quality.

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  28. in reply to Heh
    ‘This playere need a kick up their arses…..some literally like gervinho’
    I think Wenger should also be given a good kick in the ass for neglecting to address the defensive midfiled position.
    He has contributed a lot to this mess. His penny pinching and zero investement policy has finally exploded to his face. We do not have any oustanding player to lead the group after Henri, Viera, Van Persie, Cesc. Arsenal will no more be competitive until we buy a player of such quality that can dictate the pace. I will always remember how Viera was shouting at Henri in cup matches with the famous words ” Joue Thierry, Joue” when the latter was losing his focus.
    Who can do this nowadays at AFC? Is Wenger so stupid not to know this?
    Is filling Kroenke pocket more important that finding a leader especially when you are losing your last great one?
    It is not one kick in the ass that Wenger needs but one from each paying fan at the Emirates.

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  29. At least some people will be happy we’ve got our Arsenal back, unfortunately it’s Arsenal circa 94/95.
    There’s a great story about Cloughie being so angry with his team that he walks up to one of his players at half time and just punches him in the face, what I would give to see Arsene dish out similar treatment.

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  30. I believe Arsenal needs players who have got mental strength. how can swansea city beat a big dog like arsenal the master of passing game. I think wenger should join the board of share holders rather than Coaching coz he is nolonger the wenger we know wat is squillachi doing? wat of djourou eating Money he would have gottten rid of those flops and he top ups for RVP to stay…

    we Need serious players not Jokers …

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  31. Did anyone else feel a tad uneasy the past few weeks when photos of the team training were posted on Arsenal.com, and there wasnt a single solemn face? Wide smiles everywhere.. I sure did.

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  32. If only we had just 1 player that cared as much as Steve Bould!!!

    After watching a very honest (maybe too much so) Joe hart, fight the tears of anger and explain why the unexceptable loss to Real Madrid happened after being comfortable they buckled and gave them the game, it made me realise we have 30 or so “pay check players” at Arsenal and not an ounce of character between them.

    Arsene has being buying guttless players who on a good day when its 30 degrees in London, clear blue sky, the oppisition has decide to actually dare attack us and we look like 11 world beaters. Unfortunately that is often only 1 game out 40 in a season and the remaining 39 we are paper thin, cowards who fold under any stress.

    Even the poor teams of 2007 to 2010 would bounce back after going a goal down, they would give that initial goal due to poor defending but they WANTED the win, could the current side do that? or care that much?

    The press has wanted a crisis to write about for ages and we have fought it off, but its time for us to admit 1 of 2 truths.
    either…
    1. We are not in the same class as Chelsea, Man City, & United so our results should not be comparable, its now ok for us to lose at home it will happen occasionally.

    2. The club is very sick, things are not right from the very top and it needs a fresh approach, new blood, no youth coach promotions or bringing back 35 year old legends. We need a properly clean slate. Arsenal 2.0

    I can’t speak for everyone but I’m sure Arsenal Fans don’t want to me another Chelsea or Man City. What they are is vulgar and temporary.

    But a good middle ground like B.Dortmund, Barca, Athetic Madrid or Juventus where they have money and a legacy but they match that with ambition and sensible spending. Arsenal should be the Dortmund of the Premier League.

    Definition of Insanity
    “Repeating the the same actions and expecting different results”
    Albert Eiinstein

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    • Now, I can’t argue with most of that, in fact I agree with at least half of it but I don’t like that quote being applied to Arsenal. It implies we’ve been doing the same thing for 8 years, which is nonsense. We’ve noticeably changed a few things in the last few years and it hasn’t done a thing but that would then be ‘doing different things and expecting them to work when there’s no guarantee of success is insanity’.

      Just one of the things that grates with me, spleen fully vented.

      One more thing, Barcelona? Sensible spending? The Spanish banks were subsidising and writing off debt for them for years on end. They had to sell a player just to pay wages at one point, that’s not sensible.

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      • Thanks, but I really can’t see what we have been doing differently for the last 8 years. Correct me if I’m wrong but the following has been consistant

        – Players bought from inferiour leagues expected to blend into the BPL

        – Money spent on inferiour players just shy of the cost of a quality player needed in a position
        (Example: A.Santos for £6.5m when an offer to L.Baines at Everton could have been made?)
        (£12m on Arshavin when Mata was at Valencia ready for a move and the club in dire Debt)

        – Constantly offering high wages to bench warmers the combined total of Vela (£30k*), Bentdner (£50k*), Denilson (£50k*), Santos (£50k*), Squaillaci (£50k*) *educated guess, would have been more then enough to secure the services of Llorente and a decent Def Mid, or perhaps if his mind wasn’t made up keep the likes of Nasri and RVP

        – Constantly letting key players contracts run down, RVP, Walcott, Flamini…

        – Consistantly ignoring key positions that needed re-inforcement CB, Def Mid, Stk

        – Not addressing real issues like defensive fraility away from home, which has cost us dear (Newcastle in Prem & Birmingham in Cup)

        If you look back year on year since 2007 we have made the same mistakes over and over, so I appricaite your opinion it comes from the right place, not throwing the towel in or saying that we are similiar to the like of Spurs or Chelsea, but we (Arsenal Fans) need a bit of perspective here.

        The Black scarf movement say the club is being run like a Business? Well if this was a business, acting the way they have I would worry for its future.

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  33. Surely the thing to do was when we were the best team in England (invincibles) why did we not kick on from there? One top class signing every season to keep us at that level, instead of letting half the team go and replacing them with poorer quality players.
    Also Bouldy should have been on the pitch at the end of the Swansea game kicking our players up the arse as they left the pitch !!!

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  34. We need players who bleed Arsenal and are willing to fight like crazy for 90 minutes every match.

    We should sell or loan out all of our cant be arsed players in January, buy 2-3 decent new players (we all know which positions) and give a chance to some of our promising youngsters.

    We’ll get there in the end. I was just looking at some old programmes from the early 90’s and fucking hell we had some shite then as well.

    Up the Arsenal

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  35. This quote from Ivan Gazidis seems more and more rediculous with each passing game.

    ‘I think the time when we need to ask them (the fans) for patience is coming to an end and I think we will be able to deliver the kind of success they want on a continued basis going forward as one of the leading Clubs in Europe’.

    Not with average Joe’s in the team we won’t, and stubborn coaches and indifferent and clueless owners and CEO.s.

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  36. why was it stive bould and not the manager that had a go at the players :S

    what dose wenger do at the club ?
    he clear dose not spend money.

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  37. If it’s true, then it’s belatedly deserved. If it’s a lie, then I hope it motivates either Bould or Wenger to rip them a new one at training when they’re back from Greece.

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  38. Wenger is unbelievable you have to admire the consistency of him trying to cover up cracks “would rather be in arsenals position this season then city’s” in reference to them being out of the champions league.. “the club is strong in a very strong financial position, have a great team, great position to move forward financial”……WTF are u on about. We are getting beat by almost everyone this season our squad is average at best. We have a squad of players that are constantly injured year in year our a load of players who we can’t get rid of amd who offer nothing to our team that just pick up big wages. All our best players are either on short deals or won’t sign new deals. The FFP is not going to happen and will be misused by creative accountants. This regime is a fucking joke I loved wenger part of me still does but he has completely l

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  39. Like i have always been saying, the board are hiding behind the manager.
    we have funds ,we have a great facility, we have a good management team , if you ask me, with bould and wenger things will get better, what is needed is proper investment in the team. we can give any excuses we would like to but at the end of the day ,it is evident for all to see. we have to face the facts.

    what angers me most is we have funds, why don,t we use it …

    we are suffering ourselves ,waiting for the FFP rules, which will be manipulated ,we hope for others to solve our problem ,when we have what it takes as a club to do. sometimes i wonder if any in the board are true arsenal fans, cos it really hurts to see the way which we have come. we have sold our best players hoping , ..the board have to stop hiding and come out and make some serious changes. we should for once forget about the money aspect of things and sit back to re think , a bit , the board need to be more flexible , what is the point of hiking ticket prices when you have nothing to show for.

    they should for once, consider the fans , the manner which we have been playing lately is unacceptable , we have played like 5 games collecting 3 pts.
    wtf

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  40. Oh my god!!!! Have you seen the team to play olympiacos, we are goingto get wasted. Then we will of course draw Barcelona. Wenger is a fool. Board to scared to sack him and he won’t leave. Crazy situation going on at my club.

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