Wenger rules out Ba move, provides transfer update

Wenger rules out Ba move, provides transfer update

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With January approaching and the transfer window about to open, the media and Internet frenzy regarding Arsenal transfers is beginning to heat up.

After a problematic season, there’s a real expecation (and some amount of hope), that Arsene Wenger will boost the squad to give it a good chance to finish in the top four, at least, and do something in one of the cup competitions.

As ever, he was in typically guarded form at his press conference this morning, and when asked if he could provide any update on potential targets, in particular Barcelona striker, David Villa, he said, “Any interest we have in any player has to be kept secret so I cannot come out with any names.”

He was then pressed about interest in Newcastle striker Demba Ba. “I like Demba Ba, yes,” he said, “but it is not right to speak about him because he plays against us tomorrow. If you ask ‘do we sign him?’ I say no.”

And of course there are the inevitable links with Thierry Henry. A few weeks ago it looked like it was going to happen, now the whispers are that his return last season will be his final Arsenal swansong. Arseblog News thinks this is probably for the best, but never one to close any door completely, Wenger said, ” I have not lost interest in him, he is still coming today to practise with us. I have not ruled out a move completely.”

Of course this is really just the start of it, the next month is going to speculation central, but we’ll do our best here to filter some wheat from the chaff.

Updates via @arsenal and @johncrossmirror

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    • Wenger’s quote doesn’t actually say he’s got going to sign Ba, just that he’d answer no to the question then, we may get a striker after all. It’s all double speak and poker faces until the deal is actually done. Reading transfer gossip is awful, wastes time, gets you nowhere, raises hopes or makes you plain angry. You know you shouldn’t, but then you read it anyway, and to top off your self loathing for once again giving in to the general transfer drivel you write a comment about it on Arseblog. It’s not even January yet and my head already hurts.

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      • We’re not signing anyone, no point getting our hopes up!
        And if we do, it’ll be a lovely surprise but no point speculating if you ask me!

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      • Chin up, Gooners! Last transfer period Wenger bought top, top talent in the form of 16-year-old Macedonian goalkeeper Dejan Iliev just as the window slammed shut. So, there’s hope after all.

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      • Don’t be ungrateful, we already sign Diaby!!!!. To Only be told on the 31st of Jan that they just found out he is going to be out for the season and if he knew that he would have signed someone.

        Remember TV and Jack??????

        Oh, and the super “koalidy” like Gerv, Ramsey, Sheeshaman and Squad not easy to find or to even find koalidy better than what we have!!!.

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    • Are you having a senior moment or are you seriously wondering why Wenger plays his cards close to his vest?
      Being nice has nothing to do with it mate, its being savy about other lazy Clubs coming in and profiting from all the recruitment and scouting work AFC do, only to have a potential star tapped up and sucked away into the money vacuum-cleaner the oilygarch’s and richer Clubs can call on when they want to deny a competitor a player. Why are so many top class players languishing on Real, AC Milan, City, Chelsea, Barca and PSG’s benches or in the stands?
      The moment Wenger shows any ¨supposed¨or real interest in a player, his competitors are there to cut him off at the pass. A foreign AFC fan told me he actually saw some of Wenger’s scouts being followed to games by opponent’s scouts in order to try and find out who Arsenal were interested in. Its a cheap way of having a scouting system without the work and cost involved.

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  1. If we signed David Villa my heart would probably explode, thus rendering me unable to watch the Arsenal anymore. Please don’t sign Villa for this reason alone.

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  2. I think its obvious that the squad is short a dynamic forward. However, to write Walcott off centrally already is a bit harsh. He was a bit weak holding up the ball against Wigan, but I also he felt he found a lot of space in the box when congested. (For example when the Ox was breaking in behind in the second half). He also looks stronger on the ball, and has obviously spent a lot of time bulking up. That said, a squad with ambitions to challenge for the premier league cannot compete with only two viable striking options. Of those available now, I cant see anyone who really fits the bill other than Adrian Lopez, and he is struggling in front of goal this season. (players like Falcao and Cavani are simply unrealistic pipe dreams). What lower club premier league players are available? Ssesegnon? Odemwingie? Long? Benteke? It just seems so uninspiring. Wenger, time to pull another rabbit!

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    • Walcott has scored 4 goals in the 4 chances he’s been given to play centrally, 5 if you count winning the penalty v. Wigan – can’t really ask for better than that, though I agree he’s probably not the answer to our problems (especially as he looks to be off).

      Snag is, proven strikers come very, very expensive, particularly at this time of year, and they’re likely to be cup-tied for Europe, but I heard someone on the radio today saying that there’s a wealth of talent to be had for pennies in the Spanish leagues if you’ve got clever scouts who are prepared to look lower down. Michu a case in point. Think I’d rather take a risk on a couple of promising 22-year-olds from the Spanish second division than spend 7m on Ba, who’s no spring chicken, has dodgy knees and will shortly be off to the African nations.

      Wenger seems to have largely abandoned his policy of buying and developing kids. Can’t help feeling this is a mistake. Of course there were failures (Senderos, Bendtner, Denilson, Fabianski … and we paid them stupid wages) but there were also a lot of successes (Kolo Toure, Van Persie, Cesc, Clichy, Flamini, Song… without whom we’d be near-bankrupt by now). This new policy of focusing on second-class 28-year-olds (first-class ones being beyond our means) with no resale value isn’t going to be great for the budget a few years down the line. Besides, a talented kid is something to be excited and hopeful about – just so long as he doesn’t get Shawcrossed.

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      • Miranda, three questions:

        1) How much were Senderos, Bendtner, Denilson, and Fabianski actually earning?
        2) How many new, British kids did Wenger just resign?
        3) How many loanees and youth, reserve players do we have right now who are very close to first team positions?

        Here are some hints:

        1) Nobody knows…and surely NOT you.
        2) 5
        3) 4 at least

        If you can add, that makes 9 players who are all under 23! I guess you forgot about them when you wrote that idiot statement ¨ This new policy of focusing on second-class 28-year-olds¨….he’s actually mixing his youth policy with the addition of experienced,world-class mature players like Giroud, Cazorla, and Podolski.

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    • Weren’t we 4th just before this last round of games? Only dropping down due to our game being postponed. That tells me that 4th is our to lose and not gain.

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    • Do nt depnd on a match, we must sign new player in january especially strikers nd wingers to gain victory frm beyarn.IT IS A MUST WE SIGN ND WELCOM NEW FACES IN JANUARY.yea it is a must

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  3. I feel we may be surprised with Wenger this jan, if the emirates money is real this will be the first window with an actual excess of funds available. Every other ‘warchest’ has been a bargaining tool for the market and wage negotiations.

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    • donteatthecrabdip, how long have you been supporting Arsenal. Last season we were out of fullbacks. AW hinted he’ll go for them in Jan. What happenned – Nothing.
      One season before that Van Per$ie was out for 90% of the season after that Chiellini tackle and we were playing up top with Arshavin. We were supposedly most definitely in for another striker what happened – Nothing.

      Wish all you like, but do not trust to hope, it has forsaken these lands.

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      • We were never in the market for a fullback.I don’t think Wenger ever said anything about it, except that we have plenty but they’re injured.

        The striker thing though was true, Wenger had misplaced his faith in Bedtner and there was a definite need for cover.

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      • You are misinforming. Wenger never said he would go for a fullback in January. He said at worst he would look for a loan, which never happened and was fully expected to not happen since there are rarely good young fullbacks available on loan in January.

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  4. I never expected any thing from this presser in terms of transfer prospect one thing that is likely though is that Ba is certainly on our radar along with two or three other prospects in Spain and Germany.

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  5. “We’re not signing demba ba”
    “We’re not selling rvp, song.”
    “Cazorla is a good player, but nothing is close”

    So judging by this we are just about to complete a deal for BA.

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    • I’d worry about Ba’s dodgy knee which seems 100 percent certain to splinter into a thousand small bits the day he signs a ten-year contract with us. Still, we’ve got that nice new medical centre strangely standing quite empty (Diaby having vacated it for a fortnight) which we need to put to some use. Dodgy knee apart, Ba’s good, I think, probably as good as we can afford.

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      • Gooner ingury luck = Ba signes for us then his knee goes in his 1st training session and career over. 7.5m is too much for that gamble.I hope we don’t get him.
        I think AW would rather spend 25m if he thought it was good value.

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  6. I actually have a good feeling about this window. I dunno why but I do. We won’t sign 3-4 players but I think we’ll bring in two good players that will help the team. They might not be big names but we might see a couple of guys in the Sagna, Verm, Arteta mold of decently priced guys but solid guys that will help us. Let’s hope.

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    • That’s all we require mate, 2 players but both have to be world-class. Direct entry or at least a competition to the playing 11.

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  7. Personally, I’d like to see a left winger come in so we can utilize Pod in the middle. So far Walcott’s only being criticised for not holding the ball up well. I don’t see us having the same problem with Pod there and we all know he’s got good pace and a cracking shot as well.

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  8. Park, Santos, Squillaci, Chamakh :-) …offlate exceptional players signed..

    Earlier, I agreed the record is good for Wenger

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  9. I think Wenger is waiting for another forward about to leave on a free transfer, save the club some money and all that. Never mind we have nearly ZERO world class players on the pitch.

    Seriously, apart from Wilshere and Carziola, who else in the current squad would get into any of the Manchester sides?

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    • I would say only Jack and Sagna would get in the United team.And it does help that they have a great manager who signs great players

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      • @GiveMeWhatWengersSmoking:

        I know it’s heretical to say anything but ‘Fuck that c*nt’ around here, but the ‘transformed’ comment is exactly right. For all the bad decisions made in the last 5-7 years, not keeping RvP this season—even knowing he could (and probably would) walk on a free—was the worst.

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      • Seeing as he was sold for over 24M, keeping Rotten Man Pussy would have been equivalent to paying him 24M/52weeks = in addition to the salary he was already on. So essentially it would have been like he cost us 550K/week or so. As much as I hated to see him go, keeping him simply was not an option, in principal or financial terms. The only better option might have been to try and offload him to another country. Of which case, if the ManPussy is unwilling to sign a contract for that team knowing he can go wherever he wants in a years time, that club certainly wont be willing to buy him. So essentially Arsene probably had very little choice on the matter, and simply did his best (and quite a good job actually), to milk Ferguson for as much money as possible. Of which we then were able to use to buy Cazorla and have a surplus.

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      • @ Dude: Any money forgone from keeping RvP isn’t a cost. But if you want to play loose with the accounting you should factor in all the numbers. First Arsene eventually intimated that both Giroud and Podolski (not Carzola) were replacements for RvP. So deduct their costs—which was, what, ballpark 18M?—from the proceeds of the sale. Moreover, you should factor in the potential loss of around 30M if Arsenal fail to make the CL (of course that also assumes RvP would have helped us secure qualification). Granted, the more honest way to look at it would be to say there’s, what, a 50-50 chance we qualify, so we’re not forgoing 30M as much as looking at an expected value of only 15M, but the point is there are financial implications beyond the proceeds just from the player’s sale.

        We had a choice in the matter. We could have kept him. Arsene studied Economics, so he must be familiar with the concept of the option value. By keeping RvP (again, even knowing he could go on a Bosman) we might be in a much better place in the table and one of our supposed rivals would be much worse off, assuming he kept scoring for Arsenal at a rate similar to what he did last season (or even this season for United).

        Moreover, selling RvP might end up costing the club more than the 25M million picked up in the sale.

        But yeah, fuck that guy, Whatever.

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      • Nevermind Rvp. Where’s the money from the cesc, Nasri, adabayor, toure, song and clichy sales? Where’s the hleb and Eduardo money?

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      • A Yank
        I agree to an extent about Van Persie but agree wholeheartedly with your points when it comes to selling Walcott in this window. Unless someone – Chelsea? – offers us a ridiculous price for him, I’d keep him till the summer. If any player could be the difference between CL qualification (worth a minimum of 25m) it’s going to be him. He’s barely played this season yet he’s almost our top scorer. No one has a better strike right per hours on the pitch than him. He might even give us a chance of getting past Bayern (albeit it a tiny one). He’s not going to sulk at having to stay for an extra four months. In fact he’ll be all out to do brilliantly since he’ll be playing for his big contract elsewhere.

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      • @ a Yank: I’m sorry, but my points had nothing to do with the accounting of these deals, but rather than financial analysis. Though they complement each other, they are not the same thing. And opportunity cost is absolutely to be considered when comparing between decisions, or you would be ignoring details (obvious ones in this case). Sure, we can compare what was gained on RVP with that spent on Giroud + Poldi since they are more of a direct replacement, however I simply used Cazorla as my example as he was closer to the same value and was announced after the sale of RVP. So if you prefer to ignore the $24M+ opportunity cost of keeping RVP for a single year, then let’s consider the benefit of keeping a disillusioned player, who publicly confirmed he no longer wants to be at this club, disagrees with management and the clubs vision/philosophy vs selling him and replacing him with French and German internationals, both younger, both who WANT to be at Arsenal and will remain here for more than 1 year, both who have far fewer injury concerns, and who scored a combined 43 goals last year with clubs that created fewer opportunities than Arsenal. Sorry, but as much as I wish RVP would have been (or more importantly wanted to be) an Arsenal player for the remainder of his career, it just wasn’t an option given the situation. So your solution to keep him for the one year of POSSIBLE gain (who knows, maybe he would have played like crap being forced to stay here) would have CERTAINLY negatively impacted our future years when RVP left us the following years and we were left without the funds to replace him. Let’s just say, I’m glad Arsene is making our decisions, and not you. Also, you cannot calculate any impact of CL funds until it is confirmed we did not qualify. I still have very little doubt that we will not qualify. Every year the media gets the weaker minded fans at Arsenal to scream and cry that we will not qualify, and every year we do. Sure, perhaps eventually we may not qualify, but perhaps eventually these fans will grow a pair and wait until the end of the season before they freak out.

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      • Excuse me, that should read “very little doubt that we will qualify” for the CL. And “a Yank” I share your passion for Arsenal and the desire for them to win, it’s just sometimes us as fans are too “emotional” to see what is the logical decision. I’m not saying that Arsene always makes the logical decision, or at least that I see them as logical, but regarding RVP, I believe he did.

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    • “who else in the current squad would get into any of the Manchester sides?”

      Arteta is incredibly influential in Arsenal’s current style of play (system), if he plays the exact same role in Arsenal for either Manchester clubs, it would not create as much impact anyway due to less emphasis on passing tempo.

      Koscielny and Mertesacker have been excellent, and it’s not easy displacing defenders like Kompany who has always been good.

      Sagna, as said before, is an easy candidate. Add that with Cazorla and Wilshere.

      That’s a good list of candidates for midfield and defence (where we pretty much excel at) in a starting XI. Arteta would easily get in the side if their play was more focused on ball retention, which they don’t, so Arteta’s name is moot due to the circumstances being totally different. That is unless Arteta is reverted to an attacking midfielder in which case I don’t know how he’d do now.

      At least 3, and at most 5 out of 11 players is a decent return.

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      • I don’t know what Wenger is smokin’ but I know that GiveMeWhatWengersSmoking is eating sour grapes, drinking AAA whine and topping up with gloomy shite. The only shite thing is GiveMeWhatWengersSmoking’s crappy,gloomy, moany, anti-Wenger,anti-Arsenal posts….I think he’s either a Spud coward OR more likely one of the rats from LeGrove bitching squad…either way he’s NOT an Arsenal supporter.

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  10. Claims in Turkish media by Arda Turan’s agent claiming he will leave Atletico & go to England. Heavily linked with Arsenal ( i know, so are 100 other players) but this seems realistic to me. Although i’d rather see a beefy CM/DM like Fellaini, midfield already drips technical ability.
    And personally i don’t know what to think about Ba, he is a proven PL goal scorer but just to much similar to Giroud in terms of playing style. But for that 7mil buy-out…
    Wenger also keen on Nani?

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    • Turan won’t leave this window and when he does he’lll cost over 20m. Besides, he and/or his agent have said he wants to play for a club that can win the CL. Don’t think he’ll think that is us.

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  11. So judging by Wenger “not being interested” in or “close” to signing Arteta or Cazorla just before they joined I would assume the Ba interest is real and should we trigger the release clause then Newcastle literally can’t say no.
    My only concern with Ba is that last season he started very well then faded after Christmas. He’s started very well this season too. Hope this isn’t a pattern.

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  12. I reckon Szczesny would easily get into the United side. They don’t even seem to know who their number one is!
    Also Gibbs is better than Evra now in my opinion.

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  13. Give the man a break.
    Signing a player must be much harder than it actually sounds, and to be fair I trust him to do what is in Arsenals best interest this window.

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    • David Villa just turned 31…i dont really see Wenger going for him, unless he can get him for pennies and nickels.
      I would love it if he did, i think he’ll be good for another few years.

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  14. My guess is that he will sign nobody. Can he go through from unambitious skin flint to remotely ambitious overnight? Me thinks not !

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    • We can all speculate and there are a number of bandwagons that people like to jump on but I bet there is nobody on this forum that REALLY knows how much money AW has had at his disposal each transfer window since the move to the Grove.
      So ‘unambitious skinflint’ could easily really be ‘forced to work on a shoestring budget’

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      • I think you might be right on the money (mind the pun) with the sales of nasri fab and vp over the last two seasons I see alot more money in through transfers than out on players

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  15. “I like Demba Ba, yes,” he said, “but it is not right to speak about him because he plays against us tomorrow. If you ask ‘do we sign him?’ I say no.”

    Oooooohhhh, we are sooooooo signing him!

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  16. i feel in this current climate money talks, with all the stash this board is sitting on theo’s contract should be the top priority, him singing on (and yes based on him playing up top, i believe he can do some real damage with that pace) would geniunely feel like a new signing and not just that sensation but we wouldnt spend a transfer fee (good business),
    With the actual transfer budget a holding midfielder of the highest but realistic quality needs to be purchased, for all our technical flair we lack that dominating,35 games a season ball winner, fellaini fits the bill perfectly, us getting him is the sort of transfer that’ll really get that squad beliving again.

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    • I really don’t feel Theo has earned the right to be the highest earner at the club, when he is only just doing his best. Would you pay out of your budget (remember, budgeting is necessary for any business, no matter what is said to be stored in cash reserves) to someone who worked 7 years for you and only for 6 months has looked like he could be better than expected?

      Be realistic.

      I also think Theo should be realistic, and look at this sliding contract like what Ox has, so as he improves he earns the right to more.

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    • Here we go with the Football Manager talk again. About as thrilling as the white lads at school who thought they could ragga chat on the mic

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      • Its called freedom of speech and includes ignorant,stupid, irrational, illogical, ill thought-out, fantasizing that all the ¨experts¨on all the AFC blogs consider their God given right to excrete. That’s the price we pay for democracy….even the most illiterate can anonymously spew their vile rancour across cyberspace.

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  17. Ba, Villa, Holtby and M’villa. All available on the first of January and relatively cheap. Do a little gambling add a little bit of spice some muscle and a little packet of top top top shake it all about and see where you end up

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  18. I just want a fast striker and a holding midfielder (the one we have needed since 2008)… A proper winger would be nice too.
    I have a feeling Arsene will surprise us, like he did with Arshavin(I know, wasted talent, but still.)
    I will (try to) not look at any of the transfer speculation this window unless Arseblog news posts it, or it is officially announced.

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  19. If we do buy someone, i hope he isn’t dog shite garbage. Alternatively, if we don’t get anyone i hope we empty our FULL bins.

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  20. I can’t work out if the picture accompanying the article is from one of the Wall Street films. or Monopoly The Musical – any ideas?

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  21. You know who I think we should sign? Well, I don’t have the slightest idea. But I do know we need to sign a striker.and most likely a winger to replace theo. and most likely a midfielder to replace diaby. and most likely a winger to replace gervinho. And most likely an pact sub to replace arshavin/ Ramsey. And most likely a centre back to replace suid and jdj. And most likely a cuddly little cute guy to replace arshavin/santos.

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    • Frog…….. ¨Well, I don’t have the slightest idea¨…….truer words have never been written! And that applies to your Football knowledge in general.

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