Wednesday, July 9, 2014
Wenger will respect Liverpool on Suarez

Wenger will respect Liverpool on Suarez

Despite claiming not to have read what John W Henry said about Arsenal’s chances of signing Luis Suarez, Arsene Wenger reiterated his desire to bring the player to North London.

After a contentious week, which has seen Suarez go public with his desire to leave Anfield, sparking irate and determined response from Liverpool, the Arsenal manager was asked about the situation at a press conference before the Gunners game against Man City in Helsinki today.

“There is nothing to add to what I said already about the transfer of Suarez,” he said. “If it will be done, it will be done in a respectful and amicable way with Liverpool.

“I didn’t read [John W Henry’s] statements but we’ll be faithful to the way we want to behave. To make a transfer happen, you need the agreement of three parties – the buyer, the seller and the player.

“We know what we want to do. The player, if I look at the statements does as well. Liverpool at the moment do not agree. If they change their minds or not, I don’t know. We’ll respect that.

“We are looking at possibilities to strengthen our squad. Suarez is one of the targets. If he’s not for sale, he’s not for sale. We have to accept that.

“Every club has its own way of dealing with things, we have our way and we respect all the other clubs.”

It feels some of a fool’s pursuit at this point with John Henry stating quite categorically that he would not sell to Arsenal, and that he had told Ivan Gazidis that personally.

Arsenal, meanwhile, are backed into a corner having signed nobody of note this summer and with the season kicking off in 7 days time have to do something to make themselves competitive for the new campaign.

Meanwhile, like Suarez, Nicklas Bendtner has been made train away from the first team as his efforts to find himself a new club continue. He’s turned down moves to Frankfurt and others, and with the transfer window heading towards the final few weeks, should be desperate to find somewhere to play football next season.

We’re not holding our breath on either case.

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  1. We are two or three injuries away from total disaster if we don’t bolster our squad. What is going on?!

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    • Wenger just stated “I consider that I have 16 regular players”. I am relieved that he said 16, and didn’t count Akpom, Zelalem or the lad from the Arsenal U14s and then claim he has 30 players.

      Now that he has counted correctly, the next step is to recognise that the number is incredibly small. The smallness of the squad is not subjective or a Daily Mail-promoted viewpoint, but considering that the EPL limited squad sizes to 25 two seasons ago, some squads in the past have had 10 more regular players than we do at present. I hope this objective fact can be made clear to him.

      Then he needs to act to remedy the situation. Just as in 2011, we need to sign around five players. And no, this isn’t a low-stakes gamble like the Carling Cup where in the past, he played our (former) reserve team (right now we don’t have a reserve team). If he loses the deadline-day signings gamble, we will be forced to play said lad from the Arsenal U14s, and will lose because he is 150cm tall, weighs 40kg, and can’t kick the ball past the halfway line.

      I hope Wenger realises the above, because I am not a reporter for the evil British press, and I have stated objective, scientifically verifiable facts.

      In any case, we have already put ourselves at a disadvantage because any player who comes in now will not communicate well with our other squad members- like Gary Neville pointed out when Monreal/Vermaelen failed to communicate for the goal scored by the scum. That cost us 2 points. Five players coming in on deadline day will logically cost us more.

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    • Remember when we were “two or three signings” away from being serious contenders? Like, at the end of May? Fuck me sideways..

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      • Now we are 8 signings away.

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        • We were 8 signings away before we let the dross go. It’s not as if they contributed anything but a pile of atoms filling a space on the pitch when they did play.

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      • I think those 2-3 signings was very optimistic in the first place, when you consider the top 3 have almost 2 first teams each, I don’t think we will be contenders unless we go out of our way to buy at least 10mil+ players for every position.

        I think one problem with the Prem is that because we have so many matches and no winter break the team that wins is the one with most depth and is consistent. Even in Germany, the phrase for a congested week is english week, because they think our schedule is poorly decided…

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    • and respect Liverpool? MEH do we offer them £40m plus £2 then? what bollocks wenger talks

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  2. We still got our “second choice” Higuain oh wait….

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    • Higuain is only just a slight upgrade to Giroud , I don’t get why people wanted him

      Plus he costed waay too much for his value 36 million ?!! for a fringe player who only scored around 15 goals last season in a shitty league.

      All other top 4 teams have complete striker ,why should we settle for a poacher

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      • I agree that he was way too pricey but too say that he’s just a slight upgrade to Giroud is a bit of a misunderstanding.

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      • poacher? complete striker? This isn’t fifa14 bro….

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      • “Poacher” Higuain: 7 assists and 17 goals in 37 games (12 as a substitute)
        “Complete striker” Suarez: 5 a and 29 g in 41 (3)
        “Complete striker” Negredo: 1 a and 25 in 36 (2)
        “Complete striker” Soldado: 5 a and 29 g in 44 (2)
        “Complete striker” Dutch Skunk: 8 a and 29 g in 44 (2)

        That poacher Higuain sure gives a lot of assists for a one sided striker

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    • Enough with the Higuain already.
      He’s gone lets get over it

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  3. Any way it goes, soon we wont have to see Brendan Rodgers and John Henry on tv every hour anymore. Thats a plus

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    • All this is shaping up well for

      “the top top topedy player I really wanted wasn’t available so here have this french division 2 prospect instead”

      Cue the Koscienly bandwagon.

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  4. UndercoverMancGooner

    There is absolutely no way we will get to September 3rd with the squad as thin as it is. We will sign at least 3, up to 5 players before the window closes in my opinion. The key is that they’re better than the ones they replace and if it takes a long time to agree those transfers, so be it. With 36 league games after the window closes, taking the extra 2 weeks to make sure the deals are the right ones makes sense when these signings could be with us for 4 years.

    I appreciate many will find my optimism annoying at this time. Believe me, I wish things had gone better this summer, too. Hate to say it but Spurs’ summer is looking like the one we should have had. However, I don’t see the point in a mass outpouring of rage and frustration until the proverbial fat lady has sung.

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    • This right here ^

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      • If we lose the CL qualifier the decision not to strengthen earlier won’t look quite so wise.

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    • Wenger's Titty Milk

      Yeah mate, let’s go and get spanked 8-2 again, I mean what kind of lesson could we possibly learn from that, other than to just go and do the same shit again?

      Sorry for the sarcasm, I like your optimism, but I guess all the talk about seasons past was about not selling top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top, top quality players before the window closes, not simply going into the first few games of the season unprepared.

      You know how many points were between 4th and 5th Wenger? Remember? 1. 1 fucking point. If you’re such a statistical intellectual how in fuck’s heaven can you not see how important these first games are? I feel it’s tantamount to neglect (and abuse of Arsenal fans who, you know, want to watch something good and enjoy themselves) to not have bolstered by now. Arsene! You are the man who champions eye-pleasing football. How can you not see the wood from the trees to such a degree that you’re letting Arsenal become so stagnant? My Dad sold his season ticket for this year. He can’t be arsed anymore. I don’t agree, but I think that says it all. Who the fuck can get excited for the first game?

      RANT OVER

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      • Erm… me.

        With or without the new signings, as always, I love watching my team.

        If I had the opportunity to get a season ticket I would’ve cherished it.

        You still (probably) have your health so chill out.

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        • Midfield Corporal

          It’s easy to say you would cherish getting a season ticket, but you do have to pay hard earned money for them, which involves sacrifices for most people. I’m taking my son and nephew to the first game as I bought the tickets when I still believed we would show a little ambition, however the club won’t get another penny of my money until they start giving me something to be excited about. Supporting Arsenal is like being married to a beautiful woman who keeps getting you to take her out to expensive restaurants and buy her nice presents, but when you get her home she always has a bloody headache.

          Listening to Arsene today is like listening to Gollum, everything’s a fucking riddle, I’m not sure even he knows what he means. The playing side of the club is being mismanaged on a grand scale, we look on in envy while club legends such as Begkamp and Vieira ply their trade elsewhere while we have Steve Gatting, terry Burton and Neil Banfield trying to coach our players, hardly inspiring is it!

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        • Corporal that was just brilliant. You’re absolutely bang on as well.

          This year has so far proved to be a repeat of last year but with better spin. Gazidis said all the right words and people spent hard earned money on season tickets, replica kits and in some cases tickets across Asia in the hope they would see this revolution that was promised.

          More cash in the coffers from the above and from player sales/reduction in salaries and nothing on player investment.

          I believe “laughing their way to the bank” is an appropriate term in this instance.

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      • Midfield corporal:

        “Supporting Arsenal is like being married to a beautiful woman who keeps getting you to take her out to expensive restaurants and buy her nice presents, but when you get her home she always has a bloody headache.”

        Best line EVER!

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      • @ Wenger’s Titty Milk
        Your dad’s an idiot, by the looks of things.

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    • I just can’t even the see the fat lady right now.

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    • “the one we should have had” – you mean, like, selling our best player cause he desperately wants out? nah, thanks, we had enough of those.

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  5. Don’t worry! I think we will sign 6 top top top quality players next week! Lalallalalalaala

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  6. What I hope happens is that Arsenal continue the holding pattern with Liverpool but actively pursue other options (which I sincerely hope they have identified) in other areas of the team. The forward line doesn’t worry me as much as the back line, and the midfield to a lesser extent.

    And from all the indications coming out of the club, that seems to be the objective. Open slots for new players. At present we have 2 RBs, 1 LB and 2 CBs. No one is suicidal enough to launch into a campaign with that amount of defenders. They will happen, of that I am sure. When is anyone’s guess (tomorrow or deadline day), but it will happen. Why else release/sell/loan so many players?

    And to finalize, I understand the nerves of OMG WE HAVEN’T SIGNED ANYONE, but the window is still open. The squad that beat Bayern at the Allianz is still there. The squad that put together an excellent run to clinch 4th is still there. I have enough confidence in them to carry on to the end of the window in good shape. And reinforcements will arrive. Was this the ideal way of doing it? No. But it is what it is, but the meltdowns aren’t necessary just yet.

    Remember the Allianz

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    • Well the 11 players who played at the Allianz will play the full 90 minutes in every single one of our 50+ games this season, including 4 games in a week in Christmastime, and because of our new medical technology none of them will be tired or injured?

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      • 63 games, we are gonna win all four trophies. Lol. Sorry 66 games , we will have three replays. Really am sorry forgot the 6 international games 72 games :)

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    • UndercoverMancGooner

      I agree with the point that our first XI isn’t as bad as it’s made out to be, but bearing in mind the paper thin nature of the squad, we really do require at least 3 more players, one in each central position, to even think about winning anything. Otherwise we’re going to be forced to play the reserves in every cup match and at best it’ll end in 4th place and no silverware.

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      • Agreed. And I still strongly believe that those players will arrive. Probably not in the timeliest of fashions mind you, but they will arrive.

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        • UndercoverMancGooner

          Let’s hope. I’ve always been a stauch Arsene (and Ivan) defender, but there are very few excuses for ballsing up this window.

          Ok, granted, maybe someone like Cavani was the priority and PSG blew us away, but one would hope they have not just a plan B, but also a plan C, D, E and F.

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        • Yeah might get one next week I reckon but the biggies will surely wait till we qualify for the ECL group stage. Need at least four more big signings.

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        • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

          The “Biggies” that we would have approached have been waiting all summer for our qualifier (if they didn’t all change their mind and have already commited to another team).

          People complain that Spurs did their business in a timely fashion, but clearly they were aiming lower than we were. They couldn’t offer the CL, so they didn’t go after CL standard players (or didn’t get them if they did). We have been targeting better quality players, but as we aren’t certain to qualify those players won’t commit yet.

          We probably have other players as backup options if we don’t qualify, but we can’t offer them the job (and the money) before we know if we are getting the top players we would like to get. It’s a gamble to be sure. While we are waiting to see if we qualify all of the second string players are being snapped up by other teams.

          We have to hope that Arsene Wenger has 4 or 5 names he wants to get, and like it or not Suarez would seem to be one of them. We must hope that they are patiently waiting for us to qualify and will then say yes quickly. It would be typical of his way of doing things if he has been quietly lining up some top players for us.

          Just because he hasn’t bought the “names” the Press filled our dreams with doesn’t mean he doesn’t know what he is doing. Nor does it mean he failed to get his targets and is now left with nothing.

          It might though. That’s what makes this summer so exciting *.

          * and I do mean agonisingly stressful and scary.

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    • erm no it’s not, 16 of them are but the rest aren’t.

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  7. Were are our fucking “owner” when we need him? Henry is fighting in Rodgers corner but the Silent Cunt is nowhere to be seen. I hope he sells to someone who actually cares about football soon.

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    • You really think Henry cares about football?
      He cares about American sports and money.
      If he makes enough noise he thinks he’ll get the best price for a player.

      Do you think Henrys comments are helping, like they did with torres and reina?

      I don’t think Stan being quiet all the time is good but it certainly wouldn’t make any positive difference in respect of this situation.

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    • 2013-2014 = 2003-2004

      He’s at his ranch right now, wearing a cowboy hat on his head and a red bandana around his chin..

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  8. Indonesian Gooner

    Well what a disaster this summer has become…

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    • If we don’t sign a player any player(We will) ,It still won’t be as crappier of a summer than the 2011-2012 , you know the season we lost fabregas and Na$ri and our marquee signing was Zhervinyo

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  9. Rumour is that a 14m bid for Luiz Gustavo has been accepted.

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    • A rumour. Sorry but thats the problem. The rumoured clause in Suarez contract, the rumoured fee agreed fo Jovetic and Higuain. When I see a rumour about “fee agreed” with Arsenal I might as well give up on that player.

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  10. We WILL sign several players.

    All of them will be on transfer deadline day.

    What is going to change in the next week or two that will possibily affect the negotiaions? Nothing.

    If the deals haven’t been done by now, it’s because there’s a sticking point on the valuation of the player.
    Deadline day is when that stuff gets sorted.

    September 3rd is going to be so crazy for Arsenal, you watch.

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    • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

      You’ve seen what Suarez wants more than anything else…Champions League football. If we qualify we have what the top players want (just not as much of it as Barcelona, Real Madrid or Bayern Munich). That could be a deciding factor for some players. If we are lucky. Very, Very Lucky.

      With our limited funds (in comparison to the filthy rich clubs) and our half-chance for CL football, we are not going to be the first choice of anybody but a secret Arsenal fan. We get the leftovers from the top table (as do Man United this year).

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  11. Ivan le Terrible

    This is kind similar to the season that prick Vieira told the world we couldn’t compete and wanted out. We then went on to win the double….just saying

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  12. On the plus side the weather in elounda is in the 80”s and I’m off the beach and still have santorini to come for a week on Monday.
    So bollox to Ivan and arsene. Happy days.

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  13. Little Swede In The No. 14 Shirt

    The problem that we (and ManUre) have with acquiring players is that a fair number of clubs can easily outspend us.

    So… why would clubs sell their prize assets to us at any point barring the dying moments of the window when they know they aren’t getting an inflated bid?

    We’ll buy, there’s no escaping that, but we’ll buy late.

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    • But what if clubs decide not to sell at all, and hope for a bid from the oil sheikhs/arms traffickers in the next window?

      Not being doom-and-gloom, but this happens in many other economic sectors. Landlords kick out small businesses in advance, without any other rent offers, in the hope that at a later date, a multinational chain will rent the property for an inflated price.

      There is a limit to the tricks you can pull, the gambles you can win, and the Cazorlas you can sign. Ultimately, Wenger and the board have to spend money in order to retain next season’s CL money.

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      • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

        Yep. Another reason why “Spend some fucking money” isn’t as easy as people would have you believe.

        We might get one star player if he is desperate or secretly loves Arsenal, but the likelihood is that in reality we will spend the money on a raft of (hopefully educated) gambles that may leave us better off but could turn out to be no better than the players we just got rid of.

        I know it could end up badly, but it might not, and if I start to panic about it now then the stress will be so bad by September that I won’t be able to watch the games live. I’ll have to wait for the result, like I did in the old days. Wish I could sleep til September.

        Every summer is bad, but this one is made worse because Man United can’t even find anybody, and they are guaranteed to play in the CL. On top of that Arseblog isn’t cheering me up like it usually does. Too much doom and gloom at the moment, and much of it is unfairly aimed at Wenger. If United can’t sign any top players, and could even lose Rooney, then why is Wenger to blame when we can’t sign anyone either?

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  14. Little Swede In The No. 14 Shirt

    The problem that we (and ManUre) have with acquiring players is that a fair number of clubs can easily outspend us.

    So… why would clubs sell their prize assets to us at any point barring the dying moments of the window when they know they aren’t getting an inflated bid?

    We’ll buy, there’s no escaping that, but we’ll buy late.

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  15. as far as I know, this window didn’t go as per our plan……..but what do we really know?
    our unbeaten season, weren’t we being condemned for not having a good enough team by our own players?! eg Patrick Viagra et al?
    #InArseneWeTrust.

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    • The unbeaten season its like England winning the world cup in ’66, they both happened a long time ago.

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      • England 1966 was five years after the last time Spurs won the league. Now THAT is a long time ago.

        The unbeaten season was less than 10 years ago. Which isn’t bad for an event that has only ever happened twice. The only other time is 125 years ago; now THAT is a long time ago.

        Hyperbole is fun.

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  16. I hate that bloody Picture. It’s like Wengers greedy soul is peeking out at the world, having a sniff and then returns to counting Money.

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  17. I have been extremely patient and my expectations were never very high but this is taking the piss!

    I was hoping for 2 signings, one being Suarez and the other a goal keeper.

    Even a striker doesnt have to be Suarez.

    But we havent signed anyone atal its hard to believe.

    I mean a fucking goal keeper!!!!! THEY DONT COST MUCH AND THEY CAN SAVE YOU 10 POINTS A SEASON.

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    • they dont cost much … yeah, i’m just popping down to the shops, shall i pick you up a goalkeeper and a packet of crisps while i’m there?

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      • I’m guessing – comparatively.

        Perhaps Julio Cesar for £2.5M? Or he could be inferring the likes of Mark Schwarzer to Chelsea on a free.

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      • omg cant believe i av to answer this.

        In football terms you idiot.

        In terms of a club with 70 million to spend.

        No a goal keeper does not cost much.

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        • Would they not cost more as clubs know we have 70m?

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        • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

          THEY DONT COST MUCH –> That is clearly talking in money terms. If you meant it in any other way then you didn’t make that clear to your readers. We can only go by the words you write, not by the tone you think them in as you write them.

          In footballing terms, goalkeepers don’t run around as much as strikers. In transfer terms, a good goalkeeper costs good money. Especially to a team who are known to have extra money to spend.

          Try not to be too rude when responding to posts you don’t agree with. This summer is hard enough already without watching Arsenal fans squabbling and name calling. It’s not just Arsenal and our lack of new signings that’s doing my head in.

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      • Yes thanks salt and vinegar crisps and while you’re there get us a copy of the Sun newspaper, I want to see the 25 players we are signing tomorrow :)

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    • Er, two signings? Your kidding right? GK and CF? Those aren’t even the positions we most need signings. It’s more important to get a CB and a DB.

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      • DB? Isn’t he managing Ajax?

        (Yes I know, but Acronyms are pointless if you get them right)

        Of course Gustavo would make this irrelevant; but that would go against the narrative

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  18. Look at that troll face

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  19. We currently have as our options

    Gk- Szcz + Fabianski
    RB- Sagna, Jenks, Ramsey
    CB- Koscielny, Mert, Vermaelen (inj), Sagna
    LB- Gibbs, Monreal, Sagna

    CM- Arteta, Ramsey, Diaby (???), Wilshere, Rosicky, Cazorla, Ox.
    AMR – Walcott, Ox, Rosicky, Cazorla
    AML- Cazorla, Rosicky, Podolski, Gnabry

    ST- Giroud, Podolski, Walcott, Sanogo, Akpom …..TGSTEL

    I truly believe that this is how Wenger sees his options, 30 outfield players is spinning is head, expect more to leave to limit the options.

    Seriously though, Wenger does think like this and it is holding us up in our pursuit of advancing.

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    • calm down would you lol, just means we will priorities the league (and poss champs league) over all other competitions, if anyone can go a season with such depleted numbers wenger can :)

      besides if all fails we can just substitute real people for the statues of henry and tony adams. with some paint and strategically placed lighting in the stadium we could fool the opposition in to believing the real thing come to life. imagine hart flummoxed seeing th14 bearing down on him….. i’m quaking just imagining it.

      we are definitely going to buy….. it would be outright foolish not to, considering the amount of players shipped out. all we have to do is do away with our expectations (valid they may have been due to the proclamation by Ivan the terrible in june or was it july)…

      i still feel we would do pretty well in the league this season, i mean come on expectations are at an all time low. were else but up can we go? …. ;)

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      • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

        Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

        Shit, did Blackburn Rovers just go past?

        Aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!

        Who put the cunt in Scunthoaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!

        THUD!!!!!!

        Fuck Me. Dover Athletic are sitting on my head. How the fuck did I get down here?

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    • Sweet! We’ve learned how to clone players! Fuck it man why not list every player in every position?

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      • we are going to buy. just not sure it would be the ‘big star names’ like we expected at the start of the summer.

        as long as they are effective and are in the mould of Edu da silva (ie unkown/ not big profile) but they turn out effective on the pitch (were it matters imho)

        so will wait till sept 2/3rd….

        just a side thought, , i feel Rosicky is our only ‘world class’ player left, any opinions on this

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        • You can’t be serious here, podolski and per have together 200 senior caps for germany(!), santi is playing in spain midfield (not much though) and then there’s that koscielny guy you know. Plus you have ‘the most underrated player ever’ Arteta and youngsters theo and ramsey definitely on the way there.

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        • How can you call a player that has not played many games since joining us 7 years ago , world class?

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        • Define ‘World Class’, before we can start.

          Is it being bought for £40 mil plus?

          Playing over 100 times for a top 5 ranked nation?

          Topping the passing stats in the PL or Europe?

          By the first category, we have none……(well so far; and that introduces a whole different argument)

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      • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

        Think about this. Chesney can kick a ball almost the length of the pitch. That means he can kick a ball really hard. Play him at Centre Forward and we’re laughing.

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  20. Bendtner Will be like a New signing!

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    • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

      I wish he’d just Like A New Club, but the fucker won’t do it. Every other unwanted player we had chose football over money (or football and “some” money) and joined other teams, eventually. Not our Nicky. He’s clearly had word from some team “Stay at Arsenal. Run down your contract. Then we’ll sign you on a free and pay you 52,000 and 1 pounds a week.”

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  21. For the first time in a long while i am truly terrified of the start of the season and it’s not because i think we have a weak team. In fact i think we’ve got some of the best players in the pl and some that are really going to shine this year. The problem is they do not have the support structure to succeed and the fact that we do not have cover is seriously going to jeopardise or season. At this stage I would settle for fourth as a truly remarkable achievement. As much as I respect Wenger, he seems to have royally stuffed this one up. Whilst I’m confident that there will be a couple of signings before the close, they will not be signings to rave about, typical of last minute desperation to address or lack of cover.

    I am still caught up in two minds over the whole Suarez deal because i truly loathe the man but desperately want something that demonstrates our intent to compete. I would love to know what SAF thinks about this whole saga. He must be thinking ‘Arsene mate, what the hell are you doing? This was an opportunity handed to you on a silver platter.’

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    • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

      Ferguson is a Director at Man United. He’s on The Board. Clearly this makes it his fault that United haven’t “Spent some Fucking Money”.

      Fourth place and a little more money than last year (Thanks Gazidis, you prawn) has fucked us royally. We aren’t at the top table but we feel we have to aim for players that sit at the top table. But in reality we’re neither one nor the other. Caught between the rich top 3 and the also rans below us, and because of the Qualifier we are a bit of an unknown quantity until almost September. If we’re lucky we might be somebody’s “banker” if his preferred transfer doesn’t happen (Suarez, for instance, and three or four more I hope).

      And I still don’t want Suarez.

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  22. Ivan le Terrible

    He looks so smug. I’m hoping its because he is preparing a big announcement. Not because he has presided over another summer of treating his own fans with a level of contempt that will see him verbally slaughtered on September 2nd

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    • the only contempt i see is the one continually coming from the fans

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    • i digress there has been no contempt shown at all, perspective people. one thing you cant blame wenger for this window is decisiveness. i mean higuain was obviously priority but as soon as they were aware suarez might be available they switched targets. come on how decisive can you get….

      might have been the wrong decision in hindsight but as things stand they weren’t contemptuous.

      Arsenal might be amateurs in the transfer market i for one do not see that as a reason to knock them (us). it would be like knocking fat frank for being fat, what you seem to forget is frank just cant help it. he sees pies and cant say no.

      what we need is an overhaul of our ‘transfer team’ and a dilution of power and duties. i reckon Dick cant really do his job effectively if he has to always report back to wenger to action any and every part of his duty.

      we are just not ”an effective team”

      anyone get the movie reference? :)

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      • Higuain is just shit!

        Overated and everybody thinks it except Arsenal fans.

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      • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

        I know the film. It’s called “Your Premise is Flawed, Based on Hearsay and Rumour, Therefore Your Conclusion is Shite.” It wasn’t much cop without Schwarzenegger.

        Although you claim Fat Frank is Fat, he isn’t really. It was made up by the Press.

        That isn’t “the” false premise though. The false premise is that we wanted Higuain but dropped our chase for him in order to go after Suarez instead. That was made up by the Press too.

        So much anger this summer and all of it stoked by the English Press who want you to be angry and to call for Wenger’s head so that they can write about it in their newspapers.

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  23. Our only hope is to get spanked 8-2 BEFORE the season starts. Then the fool Wenger might wake up and smell the coffee!

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    • Really? Last time he bought Santos, Mertesacker and Park.

      I don’t think Wenger has truly ever questioned his own judgement. The top managers are too far up their own arses to do that.

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      • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

        Nothing wrong with Mertesacker.

        For all we know there’s nothing wrong with Park either.

        I’ll give you Santos, but he was fun though, as long as he wasn’t playing Left Back.

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  24. So much optimism, so much promise, when we nicked fourth place off the scum last season, everyone was on a massive high, the Ivan came out with his “we’re fucking loaded” speech.
    How has is come to be the fucking shambles we find ourselves in now? It’s unbelievable, if I supported any other club I would be pissing myself at the sheer lunacy of our transfers policy.
    I stood on the North bank for about fifteen years, I followed them home and away, I love the Arsenal and nothing will ever change that, but fuck me, it does seem as if we (and Arsene’s legacy) are slowly going down the pan…

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    • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

      The Board told Gazidis to make all our players famous like Bobby Moore and Geoff Hurst.

      First he has to turn our club into West Ham United…

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    • actually,with gevinho out is 80£…

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      • imagine ending the transfer window with no signings.

        War chest of 70m increased to 80m nothing spent.

        And the scarey thing is i woudnt put it past him.

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    • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

      I don’t hold with all the doom and gloom (yet?), but, ooh, that’s a keeper. I’m putting it on my FB page now. BEFORE one of my idiot fucking Man United fan relatives sends it to me.

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  25. Moth to the light
    Is the game today on tele at all.?

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  26. I`ve heard that munich accepted our bid for Gustavo,lets hope its true.

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  27. I believe we will sign some players on deadline day, but those players won’t be registered to play with us in champs league so they will be squad players.
    Yep, not going to plan so far but without bottomless pits if money it was always a possibilities
    Coyg!

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  28. I think this still might happen, they’re in danger of being taken to court by Suarez. I think we saw the clause, knew it wasn’t watertight, and bid £40m +1 to piss them off. The contract demands good faith negotiations over £40m, “WTF are they smoking” is not ‘good faith negotiations’. They’re in clear breach of the player’s contract…

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  29. Only arsenal could have made such a pigs ear of this transfer window… We really are fuckin shite at transfer dealings above 15 million…. We ain’t got a clue… And how wenger can say we can challenge for the title is beyond me… We couldn’t challenge last year, we haven’t improved the squad, so why will we challenge this year…? Still time to get players in but unless we do we ain’t got a hope of challenging…. That gazidis should spend his time sorting transfers not posing with the players on a money spinning jaunt to Vietnam… What the fuck was that all about…?! Even jack looked confused… What the fuck is he doing here….!?!?

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  30. It’s hilarious watching the cult of Wenger disintergrate. It’s finally beginning to dawn on his worshippers that this man has completely and utterly lost the plot.

    With a week to go until the start of the season we are actually a worse squad than the one which luckily scrapped fourth last term. With a no-nothing-about football South African as his ‘boss’, and a majority shareowner who just cares about money, the club is now in the hands of a senile madman who is about to take us over the edge of the precipice. This is a slow-motion car crash which is incredibly painful to watch – especially for us life-long Gooners.

    I can honestly see us pulling out of the League Cup because don’t have enough players – things are as outrageously bad as that. And all the while this loony – who was seriously talking about challenging for the title in the Evening Standard yesterday – hasn’t even committed himself to the club beyond the end of this season.

    Who the fuck is allowing this to happen? What are the Board doing about this?

    This is utter, utter madness.

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    • 1. It’s not worse, it’s exactly the same minus the baggage
      2. We didn’t luckily get 4th, we deserved it because of form.

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      • 1. It’s worse as we now don’t have the likes of Yao Koassi to use in rotation.
        2. We were lucky. Spurs doing their usual new year capitulation helped us out big time. If they hadn’t done that our end of season run would have counted for shit.

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        • You could say they were lucky to be so far ahead because of our mid season capitulation. The whole season counts the same, you finish where you deserve to.

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  31. I don’t see how it can be done in a respectful and amicable way when we’re trying to steal their best player who is probably worth what all the rest are put together.

    We are the only team who are happy to sell our best player and do it without putting up a fight.

    Fair play to Liverpool for at least tolerating Suarez and not allowing him out easily (although I think it will happen).

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  32. I don’t think we had a plan for how to sign and who to sign going into this window!
    (We had a plan getting rid of players – good) Three months and no signings (ok, yaya but who cares!) this is madness, bad planing and a joke!

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  33. To paraphrase the great Tango & Cash this transfer window is FUBAR

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  34. Yes maybe Ivan should be helping out with transfers but maybe he is already?
    Barn Door: Remember, our team last season was so very new with 3 first team players which takes time to jell, that is what we saw at the ass end of last season. It was do it die, jell or fall apart and everything with it. They passed the test big time, we shouldn’t find ourselves in this position again so our team has stated the same plus who ever we sign before end if transfer window.
    Coyg

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    • Mate, know what your saying… Maybe gazidis has sorted the transfer targets… Evan if he has, wouldn’t it have been better if the new players were already in place…? Bedding in…? Meeting their new team mates, practicing together…? A week today we play villa… 7 fuckin days to get the new players up to speed… And that’s if we sign them today..,,!!

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      • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

        The players have to agree to come to us. We can’t make them sign for us by any means except offering money and a good standard of football. As long as there is the chance they can get into a team with more money than us, and with a guarantee of Champions League football, the players we want will stall. That is the basic reason why all transfer windows are busiest on the last day. Almost everybody refuses to commit until they are SURE they have got the best offer they are going to get. Yes, a few move because they can’t believe their luck at the offer they get, or because they want to get themselves acclimatised to a new team/country before the season starts, but the majority do fuck all til the death.

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  35. More of a quote really

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  36. Toure: bit over board don’t you think, when its not even over yet?
    Cavani for £55 is ridiculous btw, psg just no idea.

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  37. Oops wasn’t thinking

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  38. This summer has been the perfect setup for a sport-based romantic comedy–at the last moment, we’ll sign Alex Morgan and Marta, a contest-winning plumber with a limp, and an android with a heart of gold. While the team will fall just short of winning the league, all the hijinx will teach us a lot about trust and love.

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    • some dumb american

      Oh man I’d love watching Alex Morgan’s pony tail bob around the pitch playing for Arsenal.

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  39. I hate John W Henry because

    a) his name is Henry and we all know there is only one Henry.
    b) he has W in the middle of his name and the last person I remember having that was probably the biggest cuntrag of them all.
    c) He’s trying to still the Arsene look but his “quips” are boring. Why did the media jump on the “What are they smoking?” line as if it was a piece of comedy gold. It’s been said thousands of times before.
    d) he’s a cunt.

    but I totally understand his stance and I wish our board would’ve dug their heels in a bit more in the past.
    Anyway, I’d still rather we signed someone of real quality other than Suarez if we could. I wouldn’t mind a bit of Samuel Eto’o, if he’s still got it and is prepared to take a wage cut, for a year or two until we find someone else, or maybe Stefan Kiessling or Mario Gomez. Just someone who will provide good competition for Giroud.

    Fuck it, I’d even take a chance on someone like Jordan Rhodes at the moment. He’s only 23 and managed 27 goals in the Championship last season. I know the gap in quality is pretty big between the leagues but I reckon he would be an upgrade on Chamakh or Park.
    Maybe I’m just going mad now though.

    Yup, I think that is what’s happening.

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  40. Forget Suarez. Let Liverpool keep the bucktoothed, ungrateful scrote.

    There are other strikers out there like Jackson Martinez, Benzema, Mandzukic, Samuel Eto’o, Stefan Kießling, Leandro Damiao etc. All could be got for less than £40M.

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    • I’d happily take any of them, though I don’t think £40 million would be enough for Benzema, especially now Real Madrid are quite thin up top. Kießling, being the top scorer in the Bundesliga last year, would be my preference but I think it’ll be very hard to get him in.

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    • Jackson Martinez: Plays for Porto, famous for selling expensively. Last two strikers they sold: Falcao for €50 million and Hulk for €60

      Benzema: The only out and out striker Madrid has left and a marquee signing of Perez. No way they are letting him go for less than £40-50

      Eto’o. Probably not demanding the highest transfer fees but he is on a huge salary. Also, he is 32 and the last two seasons scored 13 and 10

      Mandzukic. Bayern sold one striker already this year. The chances of them selling one of their best players from last season for anything other than silly money are next to zero

      Kiessling. A 29 year old very similar to Giroud with no experience outside Bundesliga. Also, his team already sold Schurle and they don’t seem too eager to sell more players. judging from their rumored rejection of our bid for Bender

      Leandro Damiao. Ah, the man who is deemed inferior to Fred (Fred, 29 yo Lyon failure Fred!) for the Brazil squad and couldn’t even convince Spurs. Yes, he is probably available for less than 40, the question is if he’s worth more than 10-15.

      So, all together, not many strikers left in the market for reasonable amounts that are a significant improvement to our current stable.

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  41. Can we put in a £1 bid for Gerrard just to really piss the Mugsmashers off?

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  42. We have 17 EPL players. Even if we add a world class striker and two top class defenders we will not win the league. In fact we will need an almost injury free season to finish 4th. Mind you if Diaby recovers and Park comes back alive from military training and TGSTEL hits form we might…. nah 4th again.

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    • I agree. There are just too many holes in this squad now that you would have to be deluded to even believe we’ll challenge for the title.

      UNLESS

      Arsene goes out and buys 5-6 players which i have no hope of him doing. Another 4th place season won’t be good enough this season.

      WE NEED TO COMPETE!!!

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      • Gutbukkit Deffrolla

        You guys seem to think 4th Place is some sort of God-given Right. If we are as terrible as you say we will be lucky to make top half.

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  43. Wenger would rather stand in the rain using a small but amazingly beautiful handkerchief as cover that he got for a bargain off eBay, or that he made himself over the years, than buy a motherfucking umbrella from the shop next to him.

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    • Except I don’t know what is “amazingly beautiful” about the current Arsenal squad (to follow your analogy). Certainly not the way we play, which is fairly prosaic. And certainly not the play of any of our particular players, none of whom is all that outstanding. If only we were a beautiful but ineffective handkerchief! At least then we’d be something.

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  44. This season will be even more competitive. Spurs have a better squad than last season (if they Dont sell Bale that is). After last season I said that Arsene did well, which he did,and that he must invest in the squad. I believe he will make signings but he plays it pretty close to the chest. We need a gifted striker and a DM. There are so many DMs in the market, good DMs at that. If we don’t sign Gustavo or Kondognbia (my choice) we won’t have good balance in midfield. We also need a defender.

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  45. What I find interesting is that Sp*rs brought in wassisname to support/replace Bale prior to him leaving. I doubt he’ll leave this year so they’ve got a good replacement ready for when he does go next year.

    What did we do when we lost Van Persie, Fabregas and Nasri?

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  46. If our targets are dragging to closing day because of a disagreement over value, if anything on the day the price will increase as the seller will see or desperation and how frustrated and pissed off the fans are with aw and ig

    There used to be a time when arsenal did things properly now we’re a by word for how to fuck things up

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    • Usually the selling team knows it’s the last chance to take the money (and save wages) for a player that no longer wants to play for them.
      But I guess sometimes they’ll bung the price up and take the risk.

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  47. Great. 1-0 Arsenal. Permanent mediocrity here we come!

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  48. So this trial fella Perez appears to be on the bench for the match today according to LadyArse. Could be interesting.
    I also just read we’ve agreed a price with Bayern for Luiz Gustavo. If true that’ll be a decent signing but I’m not going to believe it until I see him on the website in the shirt.

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  49. Wow! Looks like we’re tearing City a new one! It’s only a friendly but it’s nice to see.

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    • no its not. this will re-enforce Wenger’s belief that we can challenge for the title with a squad of 16 players and we’ll finish comfortably outside the top 4 if that happens.

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      • He’s said that his squad is too thin and he’s looking to strengthen it.
        The problem is that he may feel some squad players (instead of first choice) will be the answer.

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  50. Ive been reading a lot about this Suarez deal lately. Obviously, there would be little doubt to exactly how the situation stood if someone would just get ahold of the contract, highlight the infamous section and post it to the web. Without this information, what news outlets have been reporting and what Gordon Taylor of the PFA has said is that the clause has the words “good faith” in it. A quick Google of the definition of good faith provides the following definition:

    good faith n. honest intent to act without taking an unfair advantage over another person or to fulfill a promise to act.

    Could one not make the case that with comments from John W Henry such as “What are they smoking over at the Emirates?” and “We will, under no circumstances sell to Arsenal” that Liverpool are not acting in good faith?

    The way I have pieced together the information is that IF Liverpool dont make the Champion’s League and IF Liverpool receive a bid for more than 40 million pounds THEN they will work in good faith to make a deal. Obviously, someone at Anfield put enough thought into this clause to choose 40 million pounds as a benchmark, but they didn’t apparently think to say “Except to a Premier League rival”. All of this bluster subsequent to the bid from Arsenal, in my opinion be used to prove that Liverpool have not been acting in good faith.

    If this ugly saga does end up going to court to be settled, it will establish an interesting precedent. I do however agree with Gabriele Marcotti who has written about the need for more simple and clear contract language.

    All of this to say that from a legal and contract standpoint this situation with Luis Suarez is interesting. The fact that Arsenal chose to go down this path rather than pursue Gonzalo Higuain more robustly still doesnt make sense. On top of that, even if Arsenal do get Suarez, he has shown himself throughout this process to be selfish and lack character. I will not be surprised in the least if he is not pulling the same shenanigans at Arsenal two years down the road.

    Perhaps Arsenal should try out some new, convoluted contract language that says they wont pay him if he holds an inflammatory newspaper interview.

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