Thursday, August 21, 2014
Report: Everton 3-0 Arsenal

Report: Everton 3-0 Arsenal

Arsenal: Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Vermaelen, Monreal, Arteta, Flamini, Cazorla, Rosicky, Podolski, Giroud.

Subs: Viviano, Jenkinson, Bellerin, Ramsey, Sanogo, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Kallstrom

Arsenal crashed to another humbling defeat on the road as Everton bolstered their Champions League credentials with a thoroughly deserved 3-0 win at Goodison Park. Steven Naismith and Romelu Lukaku gave the home side a two goal advantage at the break before a Mikel Arteta own goal drew a line under proceedings.

Having won six games on the bounce at home Everton started like a team enjoying the confidence that comes with momentum. In contrast Arsenal began like rabbits trapped in the headlights.

Inside two minutes Osman took a pot shot on the volley which flew just wide of Szczesny’s post. At the other end Podolski had a couple of pot shots from range but his opportunism really just masked the fact that we were struggling to get our game flowing in the final third.

Time and again the Toffees targeted our wings often sliding balls between Monreal and Sagna. Both, as was the case at Anfield and Chelsea played a risky game, pushing high up the pitch when we attacked only to leave the centre-backs exposed when Arteta and Flamini invariably gave the ball away.

Osman picked up a booking and went off injured to be replaced by Barkley on nine minutes. Four minutes later Martinez’s reshuffled pack took the lead.

Baines swung in a low cross which took out Vermaelen and found Lukaku. The Belgian’s snap shot was saved well by Szczesny but Naismith, who should have been booked moments earlier, knocked home the rebound. It was far too easy for the home side; Baines in the build-up was able to jog thirty yards unchallenged before making his pass, while Vermaelen inexplicably just allowed the pass to roll pass him.

Naismith nearly grabbed a second on 20 minutes but couldn’t get enough on a McCarthy cross shot. At the other end Giroud squandered a chance failing to connect properly with a Sagna ball across the near post.

For the most part our build-up play lacked any pace and any imagination; we lumbered into the final third and more often than not surrendered the ball far too easily. Giroud struggled against Distin and Stones while the distribution of Podolski, Rosicky and Cazorla was abject.

Szczesny made smart stops from both Barkley and Mirallas as Everton turned the screw on the half hour mark and there pressure was soon rewarded as they deservedly doubled their lead on 33 minutes. Naismith spread play to the right wing where Lukaku cut bound inside Monreal and smashed the ball home with his left foot from the edge of the box.

Howard produced a fine save to tip over a bouncing Podolski effort as we looked to grab a goal back before half-time, but if any moment summed up Arsenal’s first half performance it was the sight of Flamini losing possession under no pressure at all and then diving in on Naismith to pick up a booking which rules him out of the next two games.

Arsenal enjoyed a spell of decent possession (well four minutes or so) at the start of the second half with Monreal and Sagna whipping in decent crosses but nobody could get on the end of them.

Mirallas and Stones both did their best to imitate Arsenal’s defending by giving the ball away in and around the Everton box, but neither Giroud nor Flamini could make the home team pay.

Everton killed the game off on the hour mark. Sagna lost possession on the right wing, Mirallas ran forty yards unchallenged before feeding Naismith behind Mertesacker. Szczesny did well to stop the Scot at close quarters but when the ball spilled back towards the penalty spot Arteta’s desperate attempt to get to the ball first saw him flick the ball into his own net under pressure from Mirallas.

Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain and Aaron Ramsey were thrown on in place of Podolski and Flamini, Sanogo then replaced Giroud. Aside from two Chamberlain efforts – one which cracked the bar, another blocked by Coleman – we chased shadows for the remaining twenty minutes, the home crowd indulging in oles, the home players in showboating.

It was all very depressing. Losing games long before the final whistle just isn’t acceptable.

Two months ago Arsenal were top of the Premier League, after today’s drubbing you wouldn’t be surprised if we drop out of the top four for the first time in Arsene Wenger’s tenure. The Toffees may still be one point behind us in the table, but with a game in hand their Champions League destiny is in their hands.

It’s Wigan in the FA Cup semi-final next weekend. There’s one thing for sure, they won’t be quaking in their boots.

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  1. I’ll take exactly one positive from this game: At least Spurs passed up signing Martinez

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    • Remember the invincibles

      Are you suggesting the he might’ve helped them finish in the champions league? That won’t happen. That will never happen no matter who manages them. From the looks of it we won’t finish in the champions league either though. Interesting that Wenger hasn’t signed his contract. I think he’s done- we’d better look for a new manager

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      • Only reason I disagree with you by the way is because you disregard Everton as Champ’s League potential. I can easily see them pipping us to 4th. The rest you’re spot on.

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      • The only positive to take is that when Wenger leaves one day and a new manager comes in it really can’t go much worse than this. – So at least we wouldn’t have a Man U situation..

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    • Some fans keep forgetting just how many players we have had out through injury.Having said that some of the performances today were
      poor and I am getting fed up of hearing XXXX (choose a player) has lost the ball and our opponents have scored.
      At least the cup match is at 17.07 and not lunchtime so no excuses.
      PS Giroud looks washed out

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      • We’ve had injury issues every season for the past 6 seasons. It’s no longer an excuse but a reason that something about the way things are being done inside the club needs to change.

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      • Not only that but we had a team of German, French, Spanish and other experienced internationals playing as we do most weeks, i. What we witnessed is one team playing without fear for the club and the manager, and one that was not

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      • “Some fans keep forgetting just how many players we have had out through injury.”

        *rolls eyes*

        There is literally not one fan who forgot about the injuries. Why would you even say that?

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      • Our injury problems are dire, yet this is the deepest squad Arsenal have had in years. If you look at our best starting 11, many of the names it DOESN’T contain are good enough start for most teams in the league: Podolski, Wilshere, Flamini, Monreal, Jenkinson, Vermaelen, Fabianski, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Kallstrom, Rosicky, Gnabry.
        It’s not really about personnel: There is something really lacking at our club, and it’s character. For a team heavy on creative midfielders, we are incredibly lacking in invention. Missing key players is no excuse for their replacements not to know how to win a game. Ultimately this ends with the boss. Arsenal have been utterly predictable and uninspired for most of their recent games, and our manager is doing little to change it, even as other teams take note of how straightforward it is to beat us.

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        • Hereford Gooner

          The squad is not deep at all. We have numbers but we do not have depth. There is a difference between the two. One injury and suddenly there is no pace in our entire squad. Would you call that depth? Not a single winger in the squad – is that good depth? Not one striker with pace – is that good depth. I’m sorry but the balance of our squad is pretty bad

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        • Even Mark Hughes beats us every time, Pre Moneybags Man City, Fulham and Stoke, not to mention that peasant Mourinho and his bunch of vile yobs at Chelsea who gets our measure every time.
          Wenger seems to have no tactical variety

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    • RIGHT NOW

      i just wanna cry….

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  2. Arsene Wenger's Penguin Suit

    Has there ever been a team that topped the table at the New Year and went on to get so many hidings? We used to set records of greatness, now we set records of failure. Mourinho – like it or not – was painfully right. Arsene Wenger: A Specialist in Failure.

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    • Cygan's Middle Foot

      wenger out, martinez in

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      • And with our luck he would turn us down because we don’t have Champions League football next season.

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      • Wow what a great performance from our boys, giroud was his speedy self, podolski? His clinical self, flamini bossed the midfield, and wenger was a tactical genius! Hope the club reward him with a new 4-year contract, well and truely deserved! Coyg! #Topoftheleague# Specialist in failure? You mad maureen!

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      • Why would he want to come to us, Everton are on the up.

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    • It was a shit of a performance, and Wenger has to be accountable but agreeing with that cunt is overstepping it mate.

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        • The point is that agreeing with a man that spent his entire carrer spending clubs fortunes and having won almost fuck at all with Real Madrid is like saying: John Terry, hmm there’s a fine lad.

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        • The Club needs to do a lot of self reflection come the Summer but between now and then, the manager needs to revise his ways. His style/tactic of letting the players assess, decide and to react to situations on pitch worked well when he had characters like Bergkamp, Henry, Viera, Adams etc. You never heard him talk about confidence issues back then. When a team spends 9 years making the same mistakes and capitulating at the slightest hint of pressure you have to stop and wonder. The common factor in all the teams across those years has been the manager. Never thought I would say this but if Wenger doesn’t change his ways we are in big trouble regardless.

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        • + Emmanuel – Think about how long he’s had to change his ways. If he remains, it’ll be the same story next year.

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    • Remember the invincibles

      Disgusting performance. Yet again

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      • Smashed, in chronological order, by Man City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Everton.

        Not narrow defeats with a referee who enjoys the following week with prostitutes in the Bahamas as a guest of Gazprom or Bashar Al-Assad for his performance. But smashed. Letting in 20 goals in the process.

        Think about that.

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        • Simply unacceptable!

          I’m just surprised people still talk(ed) about how the team has improved this season. Confidence at a low again. Fighting spirit? Absent. Is a 3:0 against Everton a “normal” defeat now or just another “accident”? No, it’s just another score that proves that we are not serious title contenders over the whole run of the season.

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      • Gustavo Almadovar

        Doesn’t look like anyone at Arsenal has a fucking clue at the moment…

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      • Just A Gentleman

        I don’t mind losing, I really don’t, it’s disappointing but it’s a part of the game, happens. But losing like this is just embarrassing.

        Damn it, I’ll watch Arsenal on thursdays if we end up in the Europa. But these players that care so much about playing with Europe’s elite, they’re the one that are supposed to care more, yet there was barely any fight for it. I don’t want us to go to Europa, I really don’t, but a fighting Everton trying to do whatever they can, against an Arsenal team where players don’t show up to half of our recent games, who deserves it from a neutral perspective, I think you can tell.

        Every player should get a darn 20% cut in their wages if we don’t make it. I remember the Bergkamp days where players gave 110%, I’d be lying if I said this current team never play with passion but the number of times they do is becoming less, and less, and it’s a damn shame. Gotta feel sorry for the away fans now, going to those games to see just 1 team play football. Pathetic display from the players. I love this club, but I’m seriously starting to doubt whether they do.

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        • finally , well said..pathetic display from the players in a perido where they shoudl be fighting and playign for their manager.

          20% cut? only? …

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      • What’s worrying (well, just one thing!) is that AW just said we need to go back to basics. No shit, but too fucking late. That process should have begun after Shitty away. Changes have to be wholesale.

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        • over all the years (since 1991) i read every word about Arsenal but i stopped today. i can´t stand it anymore listening to the same crap coming out of Arsene´s mouth every week, it´s too much…. sorry i even listened to bruce rioch…

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      • Anyone that’s surprised at this performance need to open their eyes.

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    • Now is the time for a change, bt not a change of coach, but a change of ideas. Giroud is not Wright, Henry, nor even Vanplastic who can make sometime happen upfront single handedly. Keep playing him alone, and we get results like this against top teams, because he is not just fast enough. You want to win? then Arsene you need to buy quality players, cus seeing Sanogo coming on makes it feel like I was watching Hull City or Cardiff take on those Blue Cunts.

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    • Big Chief from Antarctica

      As much as I like Wenger a lot for various reasons, his tactics have been questionable. I’m still not a Wenger-Out, but his tactics have become predictable. One thing that stands out, can someone state the ratio of goals that we have conceded because of loss of possession?

      Because it seems that nearly every effing goal comes from a loss of possession. The teams we face don’t even effing build up any amount of pressure, they don’t press us for sufficient time. They catch us on the break.

      That’s as much Wenger’s fault as the players. The full-backs shouldn’t be that high on the pitch, certainly within the first 20 minutes. Wenger should have done something by now, because it happens since time immemorial.

      It fucking hurts. Not the losing, but the effing way we lose. We gift them goals and show them no heart at all.

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      • The word you are looking for is fucking. Don’t worry, using it here will not get you banned, however trying to find circumvent it by spelling it differently just might.

        That said, I agree with your assessment, you are making good points.

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    • I am also disapointed and also would like a change, but anyone agreeing with that piece of egoistical shit can fuck right off in my book. Fu*king cunt getting in your heads…

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      • Really neat that censured only the last swear in the comment. Sorry, I’m pissed. And I ain’t saying that Portugese rat is completely wrong, but he’s trying to divide everyone and make a mess. He can go kiss John Terry’s ass

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      • It looks like he’s been helped all the way by Wenger himself though.

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    • Literally want to cry. Wenger has to go, why do us fans never get heard? Why would anyone want him to stay? Living off past achievments is never healthy, the man has developed such a huge ego. He needs to realise that he isn’t bigger than the club and that he is turning into a hate figure among most fans. I’m sorry, but WengerOut

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    • I think I know what’s up with Wenger. He’s just been here too long. I’ve noticed that each manager has a sort of shelf life. They start off great, with excellent tactics and a wonderful system, but as time progresses they get less inventive and their system becomes stale. The players seem to be like robots in the system, and results plummet. Some managers have longer shelf lives than others. For example, AVB’s had an unusually short shelf life both at Tottenham and Chelsea. Sir Alex never hit his, since he kept winning until he retired. On that note, I think Wenger reached his somewhere after the 2007-08 season. We’ve never been the same since. I think, for both his and our sake, he needs to move.

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  3. Szczesny's left thumb

    Oh Bother

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    • Remember the invincibles

      Szcz you were rubbish today and have been for the last few games. Time to be dropped again?

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      • What wrong did scezny do apart from stoping us from conceding more? You mad dude? Giroud was the man of the match!

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        • He can’t catch a ball, it’s something he’s rarely been able to do.

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        • Remember the invincibles

          He rebounded the ball straight into the path of Arteta and Mirallas and said here. Please score. Arteta promptly accepted.

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      • muchadoaboutnot

        Interesting that Szcz is now the issue. Brilliant!

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      • You can’t blame him for the paper thin defence in front of him. They practically invite the opposition towards goal.

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    • I remember bragging about my team’s title chances to my mates, not so long ago.
      Now we’re fighting for fourth.
      What.The.Fuck.HAPPENED?!

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      • the whole ‘title challenge’ was overhyped by us, we thought we were better than we were, all down to us still not fixing the same fucking problems we’ve had for 10 years. i wish it wasn’t true

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      • Remember the invincibles

        We’re losing the fourth place battle

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    • Drop Arteta for Kallstrom and drop Giroud for Sanogo for the rest of the season. AND WHY DIDN’T THE OX FUCKING START. FUCK.

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      • Crouch End Gooner

        Why didn’t the Ox start? Did you watch the Chelsea game?

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      • You’re right, he would’ve saved Lukaku’s shot. Dammit!

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      • Because he played shit in the past few games he has started. Remember Chelsea? If he had started and played shit again, how many would be chastising Wenger for that mismanagement? I have no problem with that decision.

        I do have a problem with the team put out there giving the ball away cheaply and playing generally like they have never played together before. And not tracking runners. No excuse for that at all.

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        • Against Chelsea he played as a central midfielder, I meant start him on the wing, and drop one of Rosicky, or Santi.

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      • Arteta has passed it. Past couple of games, he has been awful. No good for the Arsenal. Time to find a replacement. Monreal was a liability too.

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        • Before you start blaming Arteta, remember he wasn’t even bought to be a holding midfielder, and he was bought as a last minute fix over two years ago. That’s lack of forward thinking right there.

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      • Why is Arteta the constant in all these games? He keeps playing him in that role and he gets overrun. How is he of any benefit to the team anymore. Again Wenger chose a high line and was overrun by a younger quicker more ambitious outfit. Other than Oxand walcott is there anyone in this team with pace .? He hadan opportunity to purchase a quality player last summer and he chose a slow, lackadaisical Ozil, when we had too many of those types of players in the lineup already. Cazorla rosicky Ozil Ramsey podolski Arteta have that much in common. Where’s the variety?

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  4. Ok! Now I’m convinced! Wenger won’t take us any more further! Jesus! Is this the arsenal I supported? How slow is giroud? How toothless are we? How embarrassing was this performance? If your an arsenal fan and you dont accept its the end for wenger then your absolutely sick! Man city was an accident! Liverpool was a bigger accident! Chelsea? Yea an accident! And everton? What kind of a driver do we have? Wenger should please in the name of God leave arsenal for good! And giroud? Send that shit back to france, he’s damn useless! I wont be surprise if we yet again fail to win a trophy this season

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    • There are many things that we, as fans, can take issue with: (1) lack of investment in January, (2) Giroud’s poor form, (3) our injury record, (4) the players lacking fight.

      But I think the fundamental problem is that the team never seems READY for the game. The team is not playing to its full capacity. There is so much unrealised potential even in the squad that is uninjured at the moment. Think about it – how many full internationals have we got in the starting 11? And compare Everton – how many full internationals do they have?

      Mentally something doesn’t seem right. The players don’t seem to have a game plan. And ultimately, that is the fault of Wenger. He doesn’t tweak the tactics, and relies on the players’ technical superiority (a point made on the Arsenal Column several times). But that isn’t going to work when we don’t have the best players anymore. Gone are the days of Henry, Bergkamp, Pires, Vieira, Fabregas, RVP, et al. He needs to tailor our approach to get the best out of the team in each game, adapting to the opponent.

      In short, if Wenger doesn’t adapt his methods, the club needs to adapt to life without him. (This saddens me, as I’ve always had the utmost belief in him. But this belief has gradually and inexorably evaporated.)

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  5. Highlights of Giroud performance against Everton today:

    http://youtu.be/3KXU72KmtpY

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    • Sanogo was on for 10 minutes and contributed about 10x more than Giroud all match. All Giroud does all match is what I like to call the “Giroud Trot”, where he puts “pressure” on defenders or “moves” into position at speeds approaching a whopping 0.2 miles per hour.

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      • Remember the invincibles

        Santo go was only denied his first goal by the stupid referee. He booked Arteta when he should have booked Barkley, can we appeal for mistaken identity? Stupid ref

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        • If you were the ref and you just witnessed arsenals performance surely you would have done the same thing! Leave the ref out of this, yea he got some decisions wrong including failing to book naismith for the late challange on arteta then booked flamini for smae thing but we were comfortably shite today! Even 3 penalties wouldnt have gotten us a point in this game. You know who to blame, leave the ref, sum up the courage and point the finger at him!

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        • actually, 3 pens WOULD have gotten us a point, but no matter.

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    • Still better hold-up play than Giroud. Feels bad to pick on our players but the whole lot was poor today and deserve the stick they will get.

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    • That donkey kept the ball to its feet for 1.19 minutes. And Giroud?

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    • Better ball control compared to Giroud

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    • The donkey has better dribbling and ball control skills than Giroud…

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    • Woah! To be fair to the donkey, it actually hits the net several times in that video.

      ;-)

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    • Arsene Wenger's Penguin Suit

      Don’t insult that hardworking, honest and up-for-it Donkey man.

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    • To compare Giroud to that video is offensive. That donkey didn’t once look pleadingly at the ref when he was muscled off the ball.

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    • Wait a minute, that’s not Giroud. Giroud doesn’t run with the ball.

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    • Özil's Eyes on Arsene's Hot Thighs

      I have not laughed this hard for a long time…My word, I’m crying! Thankfully, I didn’t watch the game by the way; treated myself to a smashing trip to north Wales. What a weekend!!

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  6. Players just don’t fight enough. Which is a disgrace.

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  7. FUCKING SHIT HEARTLESS FUCKING TEAM WENGER OUT FUCK ME CUNT.

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  8. Imagine the pre-game team talk.

    Wenger: Well now lads, it’s an early kick-off away match against a decent side. You know what that means.
    Arteta: Yeah, we turn on full retard mode.
    Wenger: Spot on, Mik!

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  9. God, why the fuck do Arsenal and Wenger insist on playing slow possesion football? We really, really suck at it. We don’t score, we concede more and we keep losing. The timing in the attack is all wrong, our front players rarely bother showing any initiative because they never get the ball anyways. When we finally lose the ball, which we obviously will at some point, we’re exposed as hell. Doesn’t matter if we manage 65+% possesion first half as today or a lot less like against Chelsea. It’s a fucking, fucking horrible idea anyways.

    Get the ball, attack, take a few risks, do something interesting and don’t worry about ball retention .. because when you lose the ball, you drop deep and defend. That’s what we’re good at. That’s what you fucking do when you’re playing away. Why the flying fuck can’t we do that instead of this bullshit instead?

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  10. Fuck this. We don’t deserve shit.

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    • Remember the invincibles

      No. We don’t. Imagine will we have money to spend if we do to finish in the champions league? We should actually reject Europa because it would be embarrassing to play the like of Swansea in Europe.

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  11. I think i gonna bet for Wigan win

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    • Why? However annoyed I was at the team, I’d still want them to win!

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      • Well, if Arsenal win, i’d be happy and lose a little money and if Wigan win, at least i got some money.

        It’s win win situation.

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      • Alex Mark David Oxlade-Chamberlain

        He’s saying Wigan will probably win though…

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        • “be careful what you wish for”, yeah alright. but wigan are already looking forward to saturday. and then if we lose (what i don´t hope) and wenger is still there on monday i drive to colney all the way from vienna/Austria. i´m just so sick of the last years and mostly about the same blabla you hear from Arsene, jeeeeesus what a mess!

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    • No. Never.

      As much as I hurt right now, I will never, ever, even joke about making financial gains from Arsenal losing.

      Really. Get a grip of yourself.

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  12. giroud is something else…and so is arsene wenger. no tactical decision to change anything about – just nothing.. do we even have a plan b ? when we find ourself in situation like this ????

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  13. Is this the downward spiral that guy from white hart lane was talking about? Just wondering

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  14. Damn it.

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  15. Silent Stan's Content Mustache

    Never a fucking chance. What is this shit?

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  16. gooner for liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiife

    our problem is that we go into a game to not concede, and hope, only hope for a chance to score

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    • I didn’t see any motivation to a clean sheet there. Especially with our high defensive line and the way Everton’s pace got behind us.

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  17. That Genius Bergkamp

    Shit performance but none of us are completely surprised anymore.

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  18. American Gooner

    Boring, predictable, mentally weak. Something needs to change. So tired of watching us capitulate every time we play a half decent side on the road. Only Szcz seemed to actually give a shit. We do not deserve CL football and that’s the hard truth. Can’t wait to see what next weekend holds….

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    • Podolski was having a half decent match, and all the subs played miles better than most of our squad. If not for Szczesny we could have been looking at another 5-0 or 6-0 scoreline quite easily.

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    • Every season it’s more or less the same :
      We start off with a full squad and do reasonably well
      Then we lose a couple of big games
      Players drop mentally
      At least half of starting line up gets injured
      We have a free fall in form
      Don’t bye anyone in January ( bar Arshavin )
      And come towards the season players are back and scraping what is left to scrape for.
      It’s getting ridicilous

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  19. We really miss Koscielny.

    And I hope that late Sanogo goal that got chalked off doesn’t cost us at the end of the season in GD…

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    • Had the exact same thought. He was onside. And that’s a 2 goal swing in GD. Between that and the Flamini own goal, we could get screwed by a little bad luck and a poor linesman’s decision.

      Of course it’s our own fault for being in this position.

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      • Why are we complaining about a Sanogo goal that was not given? How does that paper over the cracks of the problems with the team? Wenger should be coaching house league cause he uses the same tactics regardless of the opposition in front of him. He is someone who has lost touch with his job.

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        • Because I think you need to take a global view of the way things stand. It’s easy to shout “the team is shit! Wenger out!” after a frustrating loss (or a string of them) just like it’s easy to shout “we’re top of league–why doesn’t the press think we’re title contenders!?” after a long string of consistent results.

          Vermaelen and Monreal had pretty awful games today–directly responsible for the first two goals. Without that platform of solidity at the back, it’s hard to push up. Koscielny (and Gibbs) were missed was the number one I personally took away from that performance.

          As for the Sanogo goal, it might be pivotal in the final standings–it’s a -2 GD swing for us. I’m not sure about the rest of the supporters here, but I want to see Arsenal win that fourth place trophy.

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  20. I hope we win the FA Cup for ourselves and for Wenger. I’ll always love him but there’s no way he should be our Manager next season.

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    • An FA cup trophy would not be a shameful way to bow out. He’s been great for the club but he keeps getting tactically outsmarted by younger managers.

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  21. Henry!! Chance!!! Goal!!!

    Once is an accident. 4 times is a habit

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    • Arsenal have allowed most of its rivals at the top of the table to stake a 3 point lead in the table, having only won the home game with Liverpool. P8 W1 D3 L4 GF5 GA∞ GD -∞

      It’s not good enough. We may not have the talent to score enough goals, but we should be able to keep it tight. But it hasn’t happened.

      The imperative was to avoid defeat today. That basic fact seemed to have been not grasped.

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  22. Is 5th place like a trophy, too?

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    • If we’re gonna a blow it then blow it juuuust a little bit more. Cant face Europa League shite.

      Rather finish 6th than 5th and give the league ago with less distractions ala Liverpool.

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      • Winning FA Cup = guaranteed Europa League place.

        Also, 6th place = Europa League place too because Man Shitty won the League Cup.

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      • Statistically this is the worst Gunner team since pre Wenger. I”m not saying stats mean everything, but we havent scored this few goals since 98 (when we only conceeded 17 in the league) and our goal differential is the worst in 19yrs. We are much worse than we claim to be.

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  23. Pooooooooooo..r from us today.

    No fight, no desire, no execution, no forward runs, no off the ball runs, no creativity.

    I thought players should have refunded away fans after Chelsea. I fell they should definitely do it after today.

    Arteta, Santi, Giroud – All duds today

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    • At least Santi looked like he tried. To be fair, there wasn’t much a creative player could do with that complete lack of movement. We looked so much better when the Ox and Ramsey came on and ran about a bit.

      It’s sad that a few months ago, most of the players on the pitch today were the ones we’d have said had the spirit and character and determination. I think there was just nothing we could have done today against a faster, more powerful and more confident side. There was no one in our starting XI who could have, say, taken on Leighton Baines for pace and swung a cross in for Giroud.

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  24. I have never in my life seen a team at this level game in and game out completely isolate a single player on an entire side of the pitch by himself. I cannot believe that bloke doesn’t get caught on the ball more which shows everything about his quality and heart. I hope Sagna finds a club that pays him what he is worth. Dead on his feet at the end.

    Other than that, 6′s and 7′s in midfield, at the back, and obviously up front.

    This record….it’s broken. And stuck on repeat.

    The manager has no answers. It is time to get a new record.

    Fucking traveshamockery, the whole damn thing.

    nc.

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    • Agree on Sagna.

      I feel terrible he has to put up with this shit.

      The reason why all our best players keep leaving every summer is becoming very clear. Fucking hindsight.

      You think RVP wanted to play with a man that can’t change tactics? hell no.
      You think Fabregas wanted to play on a team where he would never get reinforcements? fuck no.

      Arsenes’ tactics of letting the players resolve their own issues and handle themselves on the pitch however they want works great if you have players that are influential, such as Henry, Viera, DB… But to stand there and HOPE Rosicky, Caszola and Vermalen take the game by the scruff of the neck and dictate the game is ludicrous.

      Arsene is a great boss to work for because he gives you freedom and you have fun on the job. And everyone loves a fun boss, for a while at least. Eventually you get tired of having fun and you want to work for a man that will take you places and one that you can respect.

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    • I also felt sorry for Sagna. Watching him out there giving his all game after game reminded me of when Fabregas had to play alongside Almunia, Denilson and Silvestre. Some players just deserve better, and when we don’t give it to them it’s no surprise that they don’t stay.

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  25. @DJTayo: Hands up if you too are weeping into a pillow whilst playing Boys II Men ” End Of The Road”….

    This tweet killed me…

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  26. Well, it can’t get any worse, that’s a good thing right?……sigh

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  27. We should try and get Martinez, excellent manager and very respectful person

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  28. It’s becoming a trend that all I do while watching Arsenal play is get pissed off. The substitutes should have all started the game, yet were introduced far too late and what the ref was doing in that second half is absolutely beyond me. Disgraceful performance.

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  29. Second best in all departments. Again.

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    • Third best actually. Gunnersaurus was practicising at Colney and he was better than the team we put out today

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  30. Who’s the better team? Obviously us. Who’s got the better striker? Everton. Lukaku made the difference. He basically made the first and scored that second. We’re payin the price for missing out on 2 world class striker in the summer and then a decent one on deadline day. Top level sport is very hard and Giroud works hard but he’s terrible for this level. Still positive about the fourth and the FA cup though and then next season will be ours.

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  31. Well that was painful, if not unexpected.

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  32. i BLAME THE EARLY STARTS 13.30

    sigh

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  33. Fuck you, fuck me, fuck the players, fuck the manager, fuck everybody. Everyone is fucking responsible. Fucking disgusting season. Felt like shit throughout it and this fucking team has left me without a fucking glimmer of hope.FUCK.

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    • Mmmm….. You’re down I can see that , so lets work through the problem and where others see issues, we find solutions……

      Nah you’re right. Fuck em all.

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  34. Ramsey is the only positive thing we can get out of this game

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  35. And that ladies and gentlemen is that. It breaks my heart to say it but I suspect top four is out of reach. You can play better than this guys, we need to strengthen in the summer an come out fighting, but FA Cup looks like replacing top four as the silverware this season…

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  36. Unbelievable gutless shite from arsenal.
    Same shite different year. when sanogo is your option on the bench you know you are in trouble. this is aw’s doing. we will do nothing in the league til major changes are made and that includes wenger. but i dont think silent stan cares. i feel sorry for those who spent money to watch this lot.

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  37. what's my name??

    So sad how the team has fallen so low having been top for so long. Even worse nobody seems to be doing anything to arrest the obvious decline befalling us, not the management or the players.

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  38. I am struggling to comprehend what has happened to this team. So much early promise in the season. Completely out fought today. Everton showed more desire, better movement and pace. We just never got going. The first half was painful.

    Giroud looks isolated, exhausted and when he cannot hold the ball up and there are no runners it makes no sense him playing.

    To see a young guy with zero goals in his career come on to try and change things shows an embarrassingly thin squad.

    We are plummeting down the league now as other teams are hitting form. At this rate bloody United might catch us.

    Feel miserable. The promise of a trip to Wembley now just feels like another chance to fuck it up.

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    • A season is a marathon and not a sprint. Arsene and Arsenal had a chance to drink some water near the midpoint of the race, but steadfastly refused, claiming there was no value in the bottled water market.

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  39. No fight, no desire, absolute joke.

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  40. I hope we will stop bringing out those stats to show how important Arteta is. Fact is, he is so so slow and at the very crucial moments, he gets missing. Giroud: get me a striker.

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  41. Outclassed. But: Welsh Jesus!

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  42. That was absolutely embarrassing! It looked like we didn’t have a game plan out there. No pace whatsoever. Giroud is rubbish and should not be first choice. Arsene has no flexibility it’s time he left. I’ll always remember what he has done for us but it doesn’t seem like he can take us further. We need a change. A fresh young manager like Martinez with fresh ideas. The match next week is huge! I hope arsene bows out with a FA cup to his name. Worried about top four, just a month ago we were talking about the title!

    On a positive note, Aaron came on and put in a decent cameo. If only he had stayed fit this season maybe we would be higher up.

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  43. When Arsene made his first substitutions when we were 3 down I finally realized that he has completely and utterly lost his plot. I wasn’t very happy up to this point, naturally, but this for me was the final nail in the coffin.
    Thank you for many amazing years and after that not so amazing but difficult because of financial restrictions and let’s be fair, it was a success in a way to reach CL every year despite budget restrictions, but now, I think, is time that we go our separate ways. I simply cannot see how we can make steps forward at this point.

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  44. Who’s going to start with the excuses about missing players? What a load of shit, embarrassed yet again.
    If you can’t play at your best because of missing players you at least make yourself hard to beat, football 101.
    Time for changes…

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  45. I wait just to say one thing I have never said in the past nine years: Wenger out right away.

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  46. PACE……PACE…..POWER….POWER… and HENRY…

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  47. It’ll be interesting to see what people say when we win the FA Cup and end up finishing 5th. Provided we win the semis.

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    • I don’t think that would be terrible. If we can cope with that financially for one season, I don’t see why a 4th place sneak into the CL would be a bigger draw than actually winning the FA Cup. In previous seasons 4th place was often all we had left to play for.

      That said, I hope it’s not either/or, and that we can do both.

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  48. Typical arsenal, fuck it up all the time. Sick of this shit. Wake to fuck up wenger or grab your stupid long coat and go. Only reason we are in the fa cup semi finals is because we had every game at home. Dreadful season, more than likely no champions league next season and wouldnt be suprised if man scumunited overtake us at this rate. Were a fucking laughing stock, 11 billygoats running around after a ball. Useless fucks dont deserve to wear the shirt. Get guardiolla or dortmunds manager and we will win trophys again. Absolute disgraceful managing all season. Covered up by the fact that we are in the fa cup semis. And still i will get thumbs down because most gooners are still to blind to see this. Wake up

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  49. Goonerestgooner

    It was 6-0, 5-1 or 6-3….

    …..But it might as well have been.

    We’re still probably gonna get 4th but for a season that had so much promise just a few short weeks ago, this is very fucking frustrating.

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    • looking at a very hard next weeks and an even longer summer and then the same s**t next year, groundhog day written all over. well wait, please Arsene, Parade the FA Cup and then get a loooong holiday, would be better for all of us……….

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  50. Qualify for the CL, win the FA cup and leave Arsene. Leave respectfully you don’t want to absolutely ruin your legacy.

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    • This is what it has come down to: the 4th place trophy. He has convinced most of you that a season is considered a success if we finish 4th. My oh my how jaded we have all become! Who in the entire sporting world considers 4th place a success year in year out?

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  51. Fuckin shambolic again.Not Wengers fault though eh,probably a one-off or an accident.Meh.
    The manager should be brave next week,drop the useless lamp post up front for Sanogo,drop Arteta for Kallstrom & dfucking pray that Gibbs & Koscielny are fit.
    Wenger is not up to the job of motivating this shower of shit.

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  52. We were outplayed,toothless in attack, sloppy in defence and giving it away too much in midfield. AW has to go. He has lost whatever flair and judgement he had. You can blame the players, but he picks them and he is meant to give them discipline and motivation. Tragic.

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  53. First we had pretty football and fight.
    Then we had pretty football n no fight.
    For a lot of times this season n last, we had fight but no pretty football.
    For the last 5-6 games, we’ve had neither fight not pretty football!
    The only reason I can recognise this team is because they are wearing the Red & White!

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  54. Pace power tactics good mix of youth and experience ! Good dealings in the transfer market All on a small budget well done Everton !

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  55. At least were safe from regulation, I think

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  56. What a shit performance though once again. I feel like nobody gave their 100% to win this game. Don’t the players want to play CL?! Basically it’s not in our hands anymore.

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    • It comes down to the manager, every one knows that when the manager can no longer motivate the players it’s time for him to go. I didn’t see much motivation today.

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  57. Arsene Wenger out

    Alright, that was enough. Wenger needs to go! Getting humiliated by the top teams this season, something has to change and it needs to start with the manager and certain players.. We wasn’t even close to get a result today guys and to be fair Wenger looked more like a spectator than a manager.. He needs to go this team is not good enough to compete with and Wenger have proven that he was once a great manager but now he are not capable of getting the best out of his players or building a good team..

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  58. Fire everybody!

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  59. Can anyone explain to me why Arteta is still playing 90 minutes every game?

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  60. Lukaku just said in his interview “we knew their fullbacks would play high up the field…” Now if Lukaku can see it, others surely can. WTF is Wenger doing not changing things. He is out of ideas omg

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    • Which of their goals came from getting in behind fullbacks caught high up the pitch?

      Unsaid was, “And we knew Arteta and Flamini would not follow the runners to make up for CBs drawn into wide areas.” Two of the goals were because Everton crashed the box, getting first to rebounds. Szczesny played poorly.

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      • Their first two. Monreal always struggling to get back into good defensive position where he can comfortably see the field and react against Lukaku. Did you not watch the game?

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  61. Wenger is i a hasbeen

    The current crest must be the least succesfull ever.

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  62. It goes to show you…You got beaten 3-0 and you still have some stupid players smiling. Wenger has lost it; this guys are useless and don’t deserve a cent of their wages. We have a useless fucker like Giroud as our first choice striker….what has he done to earn his wages?? 2 reasons why we failed to win the league- Wenger and FUCKING GIROUD. Absolute disgrace…no heart, nothing!!! they should all be sold…useless bunch of losers…Only ozil would get into the invincibles…the rest are all useless….I’M SO PISSED OFF….FUCK WENGER AND GIROUD…I BLAME THE STUPID FANS WHO CALL GIROUD HFB AND MAKE HIM FEEL LIKE HIS SPECIAL…USELESS GUY MUST LEAVE AND NEVER COME BACK.

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    • Oh god, it’s the “only player X would get into the invincibles” shit again. And obviously the Invincibles had a much superior manager, so let’s blame our current, apparently pisspoor manager for the lack of a title!

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  63. Why do you ask my name? It is beyond understanding

    Well, I thought Everton played really well and thoroughly deserved the win. Fair play to them, they had more energy, more creativity, more power and more end product. They deserve 4th more than we do.

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  64. Why do you ask my name? It is beyond understanding

    Oh, and I think we are no more than 50:50 to win the FA cup semi final now.

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  65. Another big game, another awful performance. Wenger tactically out thought again. Giroud’s performance was at times boarding on the embarrassing. Really worried about the semi final, Wigan are on form we most definitely are not.

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  66. Also surprised why Källström wasn’t even given a run out? Sanogo for Giroud, what for? The management of the squad just seems awful.

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    • After watching Giroud’s performance, I’m surprised he wasn’t subbed off earlier.

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  67. What a bunch of boilk…

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  68. all wenger has showed us in the past 10 years – other than finishing top 4 – is that he’s a bottler. cup finals, big games, season run-ins like this one from good positions… all end in misery. he simply has no solutions, whether they be tactical, motivational, or even just the right players at the right time, for the big questions.

    i know, things change week to week, and if we finish 4th and loft the FA cup, then that will be a step forward. but on the evidence he’s consistently provided, over and over and over again, this team will not do that. he’s not good enough, the team isn’t good enough, and there’s no where to hide (not suggesting that he is, but still.) i’m just not sure why i allow wenger and his teams to get my hopes up anymore; i’ve read the book, seen the film, and bought the record – i know how this ends. fucking hell.

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  69. Wagner’s gout

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  70. No heart. No depth. No bite. No rotation. No leader. No nothing. Just shit.

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    • Exactly!
      For the first time in my life, i changed the channel before the game was done.
      I started watching cricket and i don’t eve like cricket :(

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  71. Did you see when the two managers shook hands at the end Martinez said to Wenger ” if you could be out by the end of May that would be great as I am having the decorators in”.

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    • no way Martinez would like to manage this spineless Team, he´s got a decent bunch of willing footballers

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  72. Why wait until the 65th minute before making a substitution when it was clear 30 minutes in to the game that the chosen team just wasn’t up to it?

    Also we may as well have played with 10 men because Giroud was literally non-existent… he had what, 1 shot? about 10 touches of the ball?
    I’d say he spends more time styling his hair than practicing shots.

    And as for the defense, well Sagna played well, heck brilliant when you compare him with the performance of Vermealen and Monreal.

    I ain’t gonna say anything about Wenger. My opinion on him is clear and believe most people here share it.

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  73. I blame the hair restoration pills

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  74. Under Wenger we have been best of the rest but now that is even in doubt. It’s time to change even though it may bring short term pain.Aurevoir Monsieur Wenger .Bonne chance.

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  75. Been a long- time wenger backer. Today was the final straw. Another odd team selection, out-thought tactically & sitting on hands with subs til too late. Most worryingly there was no response, no fight, no passion. It no longer looks as if wenger can turn things around.

    Hate to say it, so much wanted him to turn it around but wenger’s taken us as far as he can.

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  76. Wenger may as well stick Henry’s Statue up front in the next game instead of Giroud

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  77. So many useless players on this team,I expected dem to play dog shit for d rest of d season since d draw against manutd bt even I didn’t expect ds dross. What arteta does in that team I frankly don’t know, what AW is still doing at arsenal is even more mind boggling, don’t get me started on giroud and podolski, I’ve said it before and I ll say it again I ll take most of our former players over the current ones, hell I ll take chamack over giroud at this point,it just disgusts me when I see him in an arsenal jersey. This club is in freefall and the powers that be don’t care.

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  78. its a shame, how the mighty have fallen, from a team just 3 weeks ago fighting for the title to now a team who may not make 4th, but at this point i would like to ask wenger, is there any reason at all for always having to wait till after the 65th min of any game to make a substitution, was it written in his contract or what, how grioud lasted 10 mins on that pitch is beyond me, for me wenger has been a great servant, win the FA cup and take a bow, any he should not forget to take grioud and monreal along when he leaves, he can hold his head high, stay another season and all his good works will go down the drain

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  79. Why didn’t Ox’s shot go in? :(

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  80. goonergonewrong

    I think the pundits were right about one thing at the early season; we lack depth in our squad. We lost Walcott, Ramsey, Wilshere, Özil and there goes a lot of our threat. Podolski and Giroud – in my opinion – are good squad players but clearly not good enough to start “big games”. Heck, at this point I’d give Gnabry a chance to play in our last games. I for one rate him higher than Poldi.

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    • Yea, get ox and gnabry out wide and let’s have some pace, penetration and support for the striker.
      You know, like the way Arsenal USED to play?

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  81. Accidentally slept through this one (I’m in the US)- best decision I’ve unconsciously made in a while.

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  82. WengersNoseHair

    For me this is the worst result of the season. Credit to Everton, they were excellent. From us, another terrible defensive effort, and again the midfield is just too static to create anything.

    Yes we were thoroughly out-played, but some big decisions could have gone another way. Lukaku’s goal should have been disallowed because Naismith was offside. He clearly continued his run past the CBs and ran straight in front of Szczesny, blocking his view, and the goal shouldn’t have stood. Then some Everton cunt played the ball with his arm in the penalty area, but nothing was given. And Sanogo was NOT offside, if anything he was slightly behind the last defender. Not to mention Naismith not getting a yellow early in the game for a late and dangerous challenge, and Barkley not getting a card for pushing Arteta in the back.

    Yes we were shite, again, but this game could have ended 2-2.

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    • Do you write the script’s for Arsene’s post-match excuses?
      We deserved 2 -2 about as much as we deserve to be champions

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      • WengersNoseHair

        I’m sorry, can you read? I never said we deserved to win. I said the performance was shite, and Everton were better than us. All I said was that there were several incorrect decisions, which, if they were given correctly, *could* have seen a 2-2 draw. Now go back to your colouring book.

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    • I agree generally with the sentiment that the refereeing decisions did not go in our favor. But what else is new?

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    • WengersNoseHair

      I’m sorry, I wasn’t giving an opinion. I was stating how several decisions were wrong. You can’t argue with facts.

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      • Here’s a fact for you:

        Good teams get done because of the referee, or because the pitch was bad, or because the players take hair loss treatment pills. Or sometimes because the crossbar was shaped to deflect balls out instead of in. In some cases it’s because the groundskeeper was drunk, and made the lines crooked. Or sometimes, it’s because there was something in the lasagna.

        Great teams just get on with it.

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  83. This defeat has hurt the most. I wish we could decide whether we are title challengers or a mid table team cause i cant take anymore fluttering between the two

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  84. Gooner Across The Pond

    Like Liverpool before them, another side with less resources that have made smart personnel moves–including managers with fresh ideas–and played us off the pitch. We look old, toothless and simple bereft of ideas. We never looked like scoring and every attack they mounted seemed dangerous. Nacho and Verm were overrun, Mikel is simply not a modern day DM and we have no pace to offer in a counter (until Rambo and The Ox came on), this was only ever going to end one way. Giroud has become an embarrassment, if he is not rolling around on the pitch, he is throwing his hands in the air and yapping at the ref. This was the year to mount a title challenge and we were found wanting in so many areas. Makes me long for the good old days when at least we lost with positivity and elan. Everton deserve a shot at CL football; do we? It is time for a change.

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  85. I miss the days when we decided the pace of the game. Now we lack grit, leadership,determination and show no form of threat. Really difficult to believe our best years of football came under the same man who is in charge. I have nothing but respect for arsene but he has to go and we don’t need a moyes( Martinez) type replacement either because he isn’t experienced to manage at out level yet. If we end this season without champs league football which from the look of things over the past 9 years has been wenger only objective then it’s sad to say united have had a better season than we have atleast they have an excuse for being where they are In the league and still have champions league to look forward to against the Same opponent we found so difficult to beat. It wld be sad to see wenger leave but it really is time.
    I mean I really dint have hope of any trophies this season, still don’t because with this sorta form the FA cup might just turn out to be a joke but all every arsenal fan really wanted this season was a top top quality striker but our opinion doesn’t seem to matter at all.

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  86. i had to trek a long distance to watch my Arsenal team because all viewing center operators were not yet back from church here in Nigeria….and I ended up watching this morale dampening stuff wen I hav a statistics exams tomorrow to write…..God knows I am upset!!!!!!

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  87. shambles
    while I don’t think we need worry about 4th place…we do need to worry about the capabilities of this team as a unit….monreal, vermealan, arteta, flammini, carzola all looked off pace….does giroud score off the field pouting like he does?

    rubbish

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  88. I think being 1st on new year’s day was a bit flattering, but still, considering where we were to be hanging on and hoping for fourth now means questions HAVE to be asked of the manager. Yes we’ve had injuries, but they wouldn’t have had such an impact if we’ve done more to build a deeper, better squad. So again, the blame for that has to come back to the manager. According to him the money has always been there, so why let the squad dwindle down to the 15 or so players we have now?

    I’m pretty sure (at least, have to pretend to be) that Everton won’t finish in fourth with the games they still have to play. But what we do this summer will signal if this club really wants to challenge consistently and win regularly, or is it just content with being in the Champion’s League and keeping the bank balance healthy? Are we really going to move on (with or without Wenger) in the next few years or just keeping fighting off the Evertons of this world?

    Wenger has a lot of work to do this summer. We may have to buy a striker (I’d prefer two, but this is Arsene Wenger we’re talking about), and replace a right back, a back up keeper and a central defender (if Thomas take to make us challengers again. But if he’s not willing to, please, bring in someone who will. This slow, Vermaelen leaves). That’s 4 players just to replace natural wastage; we haven’t even come to squad building yet. Every transfer window we’ve been scouring the world and not come up with much (As great a deal Ozil was, no one believes he was part of any kinds of strategic grand plan). In a world cup summer when players will be sought after and at inflated prices, I don’t have a great deal of confidence in Wenger to do what it will painful death of my club by a thousand poor performances is killing me.

    Rant over.

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  89. This is not about proWenger, antiWenger. This should be about Arsenal. No matter what anyone says, things have to change at the club. If AW is not ready to do that then it’s time he goes. Fans can’t go to games and watch their team get embarrassed when it can be avoided. I do believe these embarassing defeats were avoidable.

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  90. afolabi ademakinwa

    20 out of 40 goals we conseded are against chelsea,Man city,Livpool n Everton too bad.

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  91. Wrong team selection again, wrong set up again, transfer market in action time and time again. Turn the lights off on your way out Arsene!

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  92. We need more power in the team!!!! Wenger sort it out. the players that played in the first half of season – will you please play the same in the second half of the season!!!!

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  93. Wow I don know what? Am just fan! Sadest day for me I guess..

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  94. sadly I have to conclude that we should call time on Wenger…this philosophy of mutual respect is not motivating anyone….

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  95. Petit's Handbag

    Jesus that was awful.
    6-0 was awful.
    5-1 was awful
    6-3 was awful
    1-3 was awful
    Last Summer was awful
    And if things don’t change, so will this Summer

    I’m on the bandwagon

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  96. Same old wenger! Don’t k ow what to do any more. Can’t keep playing the same way every week when every team knows how to beat us.

    Your time has past wenger, YOU NEED TO GO!!!!

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  97. Man, I can’t wait for the inevitable ticket price rise announcement.

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  98. I couldn’t just imagine Arsene relying on Giroud who can not create a goal unless the keeper is out of the position. The bigger teams with bonafide upfront made signings during the January transfer let alone Arsenal with the most weakening striker couldn’t afford one. To me, he saw the Arsenal board as moron simply because, millions of fans see lapses if the frontbut he couldn’t. Fuck Arsene!Imaging the presence of Monreal and like of Vermalean, why are we keeping those players? Unless we compete with the bigger club through big signing, we remain in the same caucus of Stoke, Cardiff, west ham and what have u.

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  99. Never ever going to win a league title with the injuries we have, but even with the amount of games the current team have played, that was pitiful. I know he’s not “shit” but Giroud in the team means we are so predictable. He may be slow, can’t shoot, but the one thing he can do well is easy to nullify because teams have simply figured us out. Stop the ball going to giroud in the first place and off you go. Put simply, Giroud IS the problem, teams can push up and squeeze us because they know he isn’t going to turn and run. I think Wenger knows this, hence his pursuit of Suarez, but this seasons failings can be attributed to not getting Higuain. It may have been an extra 20-30mil, but if we don’t make top 4 then we have lost that much cash alone next year.

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  100. I love Wenger, I know he’s a good coach and he’s done a lot for the club but there’s a word called comfort and it “can” be very dangerous. When you get too comfortable with your job, knowing that you can’t get sacked, trust me, you won’t be at your best and there’s another word called Change and that’s what is needed at Arsenal right now. If Wenger can perform any miracle and finish in the top 4, he should leave. That doesn’t mean he’s not good, its just that results show that his best years as a coach are behind him. I wonder what he says to his team before a game or at half time. What worries me more than the score line is the performace. We’re so shit right now.

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  101. This is the first time I’ve sided with the ‘Wenger Out Brigade” this season. I’ve always tried to see the silver lining or the positive side of even the worst defeats. But, there is no excuse for how poor we played as a team today. Defence, nowhere to be seen when any Everton through-ball was played. Midfield, consistently losing the ball, making sloppy passes or passing backwards which led the the first point. Forwards, toothless and uninspiring. We go out there with no game plan, don’t stick to our shape and we make Everton (Everton for fuck’s sake) look like Bayern Munich. New striker, new manager and some fucking passion for the badge please.

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  102. Wish I Had Charlie George's Hair

    Can’t wait to read the player ratings for this one

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  103. Koscielny's pocket

    I can’t believe I’m saying this but Wenger needs to leave.

    God I can’t wait for this season to be over.

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  104. I’ve been enjoying taking the piss out of my Man-utd supporting mates all season but if we’re not careful we will be in a battle for 5th with them. How the fuck could this happen? Top of the league with points to spare to being the embarrassment of the premiership getting thrashed every away game. I am fucking livid and I dare say this will be Wengers last season here. At least I hope so.

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  105. Once, it was an accident. Twice is a little worrying. Three times is shameful. What is the fourth time? This Arsenal team is flooded with cowards. Not competitors. When the times are good, everyone is enjoying himself, but when the going gets tough, they show there cowardice attributes. Pathetic.

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  106. Look everyone we are still in the FA cup which none of the other top clubs can say. Please get behind them til the end of the season and then pass judgement.

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  107. If there’s one accomplishment this season, it’s that we’re breaking new ground for the biggest meltdown yet.

    I am so in limbo about the manager it’s not even funny. We can complain all we like about lack of new signings, but the lineup we fielded today should not be losing 3-0 to Everton. Period.

    As Blogs has written, it’s not Giroud’s fault he’s not good enough. It’s Wenger’s fault we haven’t supplemented our attack (and defensive midfield to be honest). He had summer and winter to remedy that. Only the most fortuitous of circumstances allowed us to swoop for Ozil. Instead, all Wenger can muster are late bids for Papiss Cisse, Miroslav Klose and Solamon Kalou!

    We can’t keep trotting out the same mantra about limited finances any more. Limited finances aren’t the reason we lose to Everton, Stoke, Man United, Chelsea (6-0), Liverpool (5-1). What excuse will Wenger deliver if Liverpool win the league, or Everton finish in the top four? We’ve twice the finances of these clubs! It was very interesting when Wenger reacted testily to questions about Liverpool’s title prospects. Their success would make him look the eternal fool. Almost some part of me wants City or Chelsea to finish above Liverpool to save Arsene the embarrassment!

    Our form is in the toilet, our players are mentally knackered. We didn’t show any fight all day but when that 3rd goal went in, the players gave up. That’s the most alarming part for me. Our lineup worried me from the offing. It was almost too experienced! Chamberlain starts for me over Podolski any day. And why did it take a 3rd concession for Arsene to make a change! Make a change at half-time when you’re 2-0 down, Ramsey and Chamberlain tried to make more happen in 20 minutes than the rest of the team combined. And why not not take off the ineffectual Giroud and try Podolski more centrally?

    It’s hard to single out any individuals today because they were all as abject as each other. The only individual I’m singling out today is the manager.

    Mentally, physically, tactically, collectively, individually one of the worst games under Arsene’s reign and I’m just not sure whether he’s the right man any more. It pains me to say this because I, like many fans, look up to Arsene not just as a manager, but as a man and a mentor. If we go another summer with the same transfer policy, I think we’ll have our answer. That’s if he’s still with us.

    An alienated yet still faintly hopeful Arsenal fan.

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  108. Predictable seasonal capitulation
    Every season we do so well for long spells and then contrive to negate all that, whichever comes first. This season however has been special.
    Interesting to see Lukaku in his interview talk about how predictable his coach knew we were going to be playing full-backs high up the pitch being the reason why he chose to play him on the flank. PREDICTABLE ARSENAL, a running gag every season!!!!!!
    Yet the only person who seems oblivious to this is our coach.
    An aversion to change will win many battles but few wars.
    Even with new coaches AND a utterly useless Man U, we are still not much better than we have been in the past few years.
    I still believe we will win the Cup but as good as he is I think its time Wenger stepped aside for someone more adventurous.

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  109. Shit. Thats all you need to describe our gutless performance. Not one of our players today deserved to wear the Arsenal shirt. We are back to where we always find ourselves in. Looking nervously over our shoulders at the 5th placed team. its out of our hands now. From the form they are in I wouldnt put it past Everton winning against City even. And if and when Arsene goes I want us to be at the front of the line for Roberto Martinez. And Lukaku if the Maureen cunt ever lets him go. Fuck this weekend.

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  110. I thought the body language of some of the players when the third goal went in a bit worrying, it felt like a few had given up.
    On the plus side, it was good to see Ramsey back, he fitted in well and didn’t look particularly rusty, which might prove to be crucial in the remaining games.
    I would like to see Sanago, Ox and Kallstrom start next weekend. We can still make Champions league and end the trophy drought but to do that we will need to win all our remaining games which isn’t looking very likely at the moment, Wenger needs to find a way to turn things around quickly.

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  111. We are looking like a tired team, devoid of ideas. Especially away from home at the moment. We look no different to a team fighting relegation right now.

    Really worried about Wigan now. Wake the f.. up guys! You play for Arsenal, remember?

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  112. I cannot believe Wenger can sit and watch that shit week in week out and still start every week with virtually the same eleven no Ox even Kallstrom looked okay when came as sub 2weeks ago anyone in place of Giroud im not sure when you see him smile at Martinez he gives a fuck

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  113. I surely hope this is the lowest it will get. I don’t think I can take another one of such performances.

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  114. I worry that attracting a top-flight manager will be difficult because Kronenke, as those of in the U.S. who see his ownership of American sports teams are aware, is a cheapskate. A few years ago, a caller on the BBC World Football Phone-In asked Sean Wheelock about Kronenke’s increasing acquisition of Arsenal shares. Wheelock’s response: I’ve interviewed Kronenke extensively, he isn’t interesting in winning but in making money, and if I were an Arsenal fan, I would be very, very concerned. I was and I am.

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    • That is an excellent and crucial point, the whole corporate governance of Arsenal under Kronenke and Gazidis has been disgraceful. The prices charged for tickets , and at the ground for various items are extortionate, all to boost profits ,feeding into massive pay offs for Wenger and the aforementioned gentlemen.
      All the while fans are fed patronising nonsense about ‘it’s not like you can pluck players off a supermarket shelf’ Gazidis and variously ‘RVP,Fabregas and Nasri will not be leaving this club’ Wenger.
      Wenger’s assertion that he wasn’t sure what to do about Kallstrom as it was getting close to the deadline is utterly pathetic, here is man reputedly on £2 million + per year, who on the face of it cant sign one fit effective player in a month, that by any yardstick is gross incompetence.
      Finally my abiding image of the season is Ozil being too worried about a strand being out of place on his well coiffed mane, so worried he didn’t take time to go and applaud our magnificent away support whose money pay his inflated wages. I’ll stop short of ‘Wenger Out’ just now but major changes in the ethos and governance of the club are urgently required.

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  115. Been a different story if we had given Liverpool a blank cheque for Suarez. Instead, we embarrass ourselves with that too putting in a bid (+£1) as we believed it would trigger a buy out clause in his contract.

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  116. Awful performance, never really looked like getting a word in after we went 2 down. For what it’s worth, Ox should have started on the wing, then maybe we could have got some pace in behind Everton’s already cracking fullbacks Coleman and Baines.

    ‘That skill’ Coleman did on the right was really really good. When the fullback starts doing tekkers against you near the final third, then you know there’s no way back. Is there any chance we could nick him off Everton in the summer? Then again, I don’t think a player like Coleman would be the difference in avoiding hammerings against the ‘better teams’.

    Its as if after Christmas the team mentally assumed that it was over and they had won the trophy for best team of the year(and not the season). Yeah yeah injuries, fixture schedules, dodgy referees, dodgy pitches, misalignment of the solar system. Bollocks to all that shit. We psyched ourselves out of the title race after Özil-gate psyched us in, not to mention some seriously dodgy tactics along the fucking way.

    I am worried about facing Wigan in the FA cup, if we approach it the wrong way then we could face yet another psychological blow that would keep us in Arkham Asylum let alone the pub.

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  117. Gotta say I was impressed with Everton. It was like watching Arsenal around the turn of the century, they were defending with conviction, and breaking with purpose. A team with a core and an idea, sprinkled with quality in key areas of the pitch, and at key moments in the game.

    So here we are, in a scrap for fourth once again, and what’s worse is now it is out of our hands. Looking at the fixture list we should just scrape it, but going from genuine title contenders to where we were last season (scrapping for fourth and relying on other teams to lose points) hurts. It fucking hurts so much.

    So how did it come to this? Well, most people will point to the beatings we received at the hands of Man C, Liverpool, Chelsea and now Everton. This is true, but the performances away to Stoke and the lethargic game (at home) against Swansea hurt us just as much. You could argue there is a cause and effect situation between the massive defeats and the performance in games just afterwards, and you would probably be right. However, why isn’t the reverse true? To this game we should have arrived with some confidence restored after the second half against city. Instead we looked lost, without conviction and quality.

    Some would argue that our injury list is at the root of the problem, but I disagree. Look at the list of players missing, one could hardly say that any of them are the sort of players whose absence explains the lack of ideas and conviction. Most teams can go out and perform with some of that. The players that are missing may have the quality to turn a half chance into a goal, and that’s the sort of thing that will win you some matches where you would otherwise have lost. It will never make you win the league though.

    I am worried, very worried, about the rest of this season. Sure, we lost today, that is one thing. However, I do not feel a sense of purpose in the entire team at the moment. That is the sort of thing that will cause us to drop points against “lesser” opposition all through the run in, and if that is not rectified somehow will mean going out of the FA cup as well.

    I am so depressed right now. Sometimes you could argue bad luck, or that the ref was a cunt, or any of those things we as supporters tend to pull out. I genuinely feel though that something is very very wrong in the core of the team right now though.

    For. Fucks. Sake.

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  118. So much for the fabled mental strength, we should just sign a psychiatrist. A total shambles.

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/apr/04/liverpool-england-dr-steve-peters-world-cup-brazil

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  119. What kills me is that there’s no way we can land Suarez anymore. We should have tried harder with more money last summer. We could’ve been top of the league….. Giroud should just listen to his wife and go back to France….. Oh and sack the entire medical team. Our injuries are beyond ridiculous.

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    • maybe he would have gotten injured and our med staff would’ve failed to patch him up,or wenger would’ve made him a winger

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    • We could have signed Suárez this summer if we had took them to court. Turns out there was a 40 mill clause, but Liverpool gambled that we would not force the issue in the court of law, and they got it right.

      However, Suarez would probably still have had issues in an Arsenal shirt, because in Liverpool he have been followed up by the Clubs own sports psychiatrist whom Rodgers hired to boost the teams mental strenght. This obviously has had a big effect, and Suárez is allmost like a different person, and the team as a whole is fighting for the trophy and punching above their weight class. Arsenal However dont have any sport’s psychiatrist’s, and Suarez might very well have been out with a ban by now :p

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  120. why should you blame injuries & refs when he score board is 3-0 or worse?? get real.
    why does wenger just sit down when shit is hittin the fan and flying all the way to africa? stand up and yell some sense when a player is shit!!!!

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    • He believes in letting players “Learn by themselves”. If they were that good at learning by themselves we wouldn’t need a fucking manager!

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  121. TodaysTheDayIComment

    first we get embarrassed,outplayed by Man City, than Liverpool, than Chelsea, now Everton……..and there you have your top 4.

    i genuinely laughed at those who said arsenal will crumble in the second half of the season,i guess they got the last laugh.

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  122. The way the ref acted at the end was appalling. We could have fought back with pride, but the ref just let Everton run all over Arsenal. What the fuck was that with Barkley and Arteta? How do you let so many fouls go? Advantage doesn’t mean anything when a player runs into a wall of defenders.

    And what was up with Flamini and Monreal today. Flamini left his marker the whole game. We knew where the threat would be in that game, Barkley and Lukaku. Why could Flamini just mark Barkley out of the game. We know that Monreal always has trouble against pacy and strong forwards. Why couldn’t we double up on Lukaku?

    And why did the Everton fans boo the shit out of Arteta? He didn’t leave like a Dutch skunk cunt so why was they so much hate?

    I can’t wait until our players are healthy again. We are missing our midfield. Jacky’s ability to penetrate is needed. A healthy Ramsey can carry the team to where we need to be. Walcott’s pace is so vital to give us a different dimension. Just imagine the Arsenal the first 20 minutes of the season, I can’t wait for it. Also, Campbell is going to give us something different if he actually joins Arsenal this summer.

    Alright. Rant over.

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  123. Everton still got United and City left to play, we mostly got bottom half teams, so Even though it is In Everton’s hands atm, there is a good chance a United fighting for 6th or a City fighting for the trophy will be to much for Everton to handle, and then it might be back in our hands if we dont mess up again.

    However, i think Wenger has got abit passive in his old days. He was not like that 10 years ago. Our tactic was clearly not working, yet he just sit in his seat like he dont really care. Look at Martinez constantly on the Line urging his team forward, relaying Messages, tweaking the tactics. Meanwhile Wenger does nothing. And i dont buy in to the let them figure it out for themselves crap. Why would they need at manager at all if they need to figure out everything themselves?

    Letting them figuring stuff out themselves while he manage the business side of things is not optimal. I would not mind having Wenger manage the business stuff, but i think we need another football manager to actually manage the team. Wenger cant do it all, and im pretty sure he is the only manager in the world with so many responsibilities, and i think it is affecting the team.

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  124. Q1. If a,b,c & d were fit,would we win the league? taking giroud as x in this equation explain how this can be possible. 15 marks

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  125. The best thing that could happen to Wenger right now is to get sacked – the embarrassment is just too much. It’s one thing for someone to call you a failure, it’s something else not to have the ability to prove them wrong.

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  126. I usually support Arsene but I just can’t…Wenger out. Wigan will win next week. They’ll double up on our LB (Monreal) and frustrate us to death. Heck even I can coach a team better than this!! #WengerOut

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  127. I seriously have no happiness in my life Arsenal, im suffering because of you :(

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  128. Wenger has been great at developing talent, but he just doesn’t have the game strategy and management skills that managers like Jose have. And he seems to think he can get more out of players than they have in them. Which must be why he hasn’t taken full advantage of transfer windows. And this season, he put way too much on the shoulders of Giroud and Ozil. Granted Ramsey and Walcott being out didn’t help.
    Why the hell is he playing Monreal? It looked like Vermal and Szczesny were both pissed at him. Our back line seems disoriented when he is in.
    I’m stateside, so I don’t know as much as most. But from my limited perspective, when playing top teams, we should start:
    Gibbs, Kos, Mert and Sanga with Verm as our sub. Don’t let Monreal near the pitch. (Sagna plays hard, I think he just gets fed up with the team’s performance)
    Ros, Cazorla, Ramsey/Ozil, Flamini in a diamond mid with Kall and Arteta as subs
    Then play Giroud and Pod as two strikers (of course, we need a big buy this summer)

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  129. I wasn’t confident before the game but it so demoralising losing again in that manner.

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  130. Eric Irish gunner

    Another shambolic display, no fight no plan B no hope

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  131. Derek Griffiths with a song for the team:

    http://youtu.be/QAPjRWGhLeM?t=1m52s

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  132. We will never celebrate 4th place like a trophy again they Said. Little did we know that this meant we would celebrate 5th next time.

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    • All a bit too morose.

      But yeah we are in danger again of losing out 4th spot and this is not where we want to be considering the investment we made last summer in Ozil.

      We bought ourselves a gem of a player but then did not reinforce up top to reap the full benefits.

      That’s the main frustration of it all.

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  133. Arsenal fan, Knicks fan, Jets fan…thank God for the Yankees…Who now are terrible as well :(:(:(

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  134. Brace yourselves for the biggest heartbreak of the season against Wigan next weekend.I’ll be hiding in a cave.

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    • Wenger had better win the FA cup.

      It will be poor form for him to have to go out on such a note without at very least a trophy win.

      No guarantees with the team at the moment.

      It’s as if they have lost all perspective of everything that was good that made us solid contenders for much of the season. It’s like a mental freeze, not helped in the least by wrong tactics on the day by the gaffer and Wenger’s reluctance to intervene and inability to affect a game with speedy substitutions or tailoring from the sideline.

      His non interventionist style I’m afraid doesn’t cut the mustard in this day and age… not with the sort of competition we now face in the league with many more foreign managers and better tactics.

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  135. Hanging on to Wenger is like hanging on to your old VCR (Cassette) because u remember u watched ur favorite movies on it. SMH

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    • Shame he has to write his epitaph with irrelevance. he’s almost like the heavyweight boxer that took on one fight too many.

      OTOH, if he qualifies for fourth (and FA), it will still represent stagnation albeit at a very high level of minimum achievement that few clubs can boast.

      This season though could be a watershed and a good opportunity for change as a number of potential successors will be available following the world cup.

      Kilnnsman could be an interesting choice (being ex spurs). This is a man who is invested in attacking football and has had a strong hand in re-inventing german football into the world leader it is today.

      Arsene may yet have a role as a director of football but one suspects an ego clash and Wenger is perhaps better off seeking a new challenge. Then again, the current arsenal (with the potential of several top young players yet to be realised) may just encourage him to stay on in some way or form.

      We have just come into a period where we are able to compete (at least financially) with the big boys having sucked up a period of frugality so its a shame he has written himself into irrelevance but it is of course entirely his own doing in many ways.

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  136. Other than chamberlain we really don’t have any wingers. Cazorla is a great player but I see him better in the center position. We need players that have speed and can open up the opposing def. Same problem with our striker. No speed, lacks finishing, he can’t make any runs. All giroud does is stand there waiting for long balls brings it down or flicks it to anyone that’s around him.

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    • When we face a threat with speed on both flanks, it was imperative we started at least Chamberlain on one end to counter.

      Giroud’s problem is his game is better suited to crowded areas where the game is compressed and we have players closer to him in support.

      When faced against teams who are more mobile and quick, he fails to cover the wider real estate that opens up and we tend to be timid going forward to support his game.

      We simply need a striker who has pace and trickery to operate on his own.

      I think Wenger knew this which was why he was gunning for Higuain and Suarez last summer.

      BUT he did not want to follow Napoli into a bidding war past 40m (which they could have) and he was firm on Suarez because he had his eye on the possible Ozil situation toward end of the window.

      Let’s face it, it was a coup that dick Law and Wenger landed Ozil. But it was also a distraction that ultimately cost us the striker (as Wenger left it too late to go for secondary targets)

      We have a very complete squad at the moment (bar injuries in Attacking midfield, for which we are fortunately covered in depth) and bar the striker position.

      But the small short fall up top translates to a massive capability gap for us. This is the big problem.

      When you are dependent on your attacking midfield assets to weigh in with goals (Walcott particularly, but Ramsey too this season) and when you have the arse luck in this department, it is no surprise that we find ourselves in the second tier of GD and teams competing for 4th in United and Everton where the title challengers are way into the 30-40 mark for GD this season.

      Wenger will rue not landing that striker which would have made a massive difference for us this season. We have handicapped ourselves once again and come up short because of it.

      there are mitigating reasons why Wenger took the gamble.

      As mentioned, the Ozil expenditure complicated his calculations. Last january’s players on offer were cover rather than capability upgrade. Those that could have been available were also by and large cup tied and over price because of this summer’s world cup.

      The one player I thought could have been interesting for us was Pato who needed re-invention and was unpopular at his Brasilian club. He had the guile, trickery and pace to add something different for us to throw on in games as a wild card. Plus he had plenty of Cl experience to offer for the Bayern game and was critically not cup tied. @24, there was also good up side for us if he performed well and an a loan deal with option to buy would have limited our exposure whilst affording us a first look in.

      This is all water under the bridge now.

      Wenger has to focus on the fourth spot trophy and the FA cup. It’s stagnation at a high end and will be slightly sweeter for him if he gains the consolation of the FA cup. But it is stagnation none the less and I have no doubt it will weigh in his mind whether he is still the right man to take us forward.

      This is both an interesting and dangerous time for the club. The right successor is absolutely crucial, we cannot react on knee jerk and simply appoint anyone (Martinez for a start, yes good win and good this season with Everton but he has not even come close to proving sustained performance that Moyes did with Everton and look at where United are…well not far behind us at this rate):P

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    • So sad that this manager has not seen how useful Gnabry could have been this season. Weird. And sad.

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  137. Maureen is starting to look justified with his “Specialist in failure” comment

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  138. Bunch of fair weather fans

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  139. He keeps saying the same thing but honestly, we have not been convincing all season when we needed to be.

    I don’ think :

    1) We are a team short on quantity or (in general quality). When you compare our squad size side to side with City or any of the other peer challengers, we have close to as many players (if not more in certain areas).

    2) We have not been unlucky with injuries. We have been hit hard in the creative midfield department but have been spared up front and at the back and in CDM to large extends of the campaign.

    These cannot be our excuses.

    Rather :

    1) We have been light weight up top and shone of that bit of magic to take us over the line when need be. This is apparent in GD against the peer rivals. Of course our peer rivals are now Spurs, United where interestingly the GD are in the same ball park (there are two distinct groups of 3 with Chelsea, City and Liverpool in one group and us, Everton, United challenging for fourth in the other)

    This short fall up top makes us dependent on the attacking midfield and that is where the injuries are telling this season.

    2) We have been tactically poor against the top teams. This is (and always has been) a Wenger issue and no amount of buying in the market will remedy this issue. not sure starting Podolski and Arteta today was the right thing. We needed Chamberlain in early with his pace to check the wide areas against Everton. Also Arteta has been looking knackered. Wenger would have done better with Kallstrom on next to Flamini.

    3) I don’t think Wenger is entirely at fault for not spending. We cannot say that when he paid 42.3m for Ozil. Rather, he was distracted with not adding in a crucial area last summer because he had his eye on the big prize at the end of the window last summer, and crucially let two potentially significant attacking targets slip. he also held on to believe (erroneous) that he could land Suarez for way too long thereby losing potential secondary targets.

    January was a difficult time to add quality we needed (cover was not an issue) in this area for price. I wonder though if someone like Pato who has plenty of CL experience, was not cup tied,had pace and trickery to afford us a different approach to play, and @24 had plenty of upside, would have been a good choice on loan with an option to buy down the line.

    Penny-wise pound foolish comes to mind with regards Wenger’s ‘frugality’ last summer bottom line.

    It will be a difficult finish now with the team looking shorn of confidence. Hopefully we will scrape through again. Whilst consistently CL qualification is a very high standard to remain stagnant in, it simply isn’t good enough considering what our ambitions should be with recent barren seasons in mind and the extra cash in hand to remedy it (to some degree)

    The FA cup (if we win it) will be a consolation at best and will represent modicum improvement (if at all)

    I’m not sure what that says for our future as a club. This may represent the realization for Wenger that he has gone as far as he can in bringing this club forward.

    It may have an impact on signings if we do not qualify for CL.

    I think the issue will also play around this summer’s world cup. It is in some ways a good opportunity to take stock as to who is available following that competition that may bring something fresh in approach to the club whilst retaining the ethos and everything good that Wenger has built.

    In that I am sure Wenger will have a massive say in his succession should he decide to hang up the gloves.

    My first thoughts are Klinnsman, Blanc, Deschamp.

    Until then Wenger has to guide us through to the 4th spot qualification and hopefully he can go out on a little bit of a high with an FA cup win. But honestly, it has been a dissapointing season regardless because he did so well through most of the campaign with this team and it promised so much.

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  140. FakeRobertPires

    Arsene and his team are just not up for it. Throughout this entire season, barring the away game at Dortmund and home to Liverpool, whenever something was expected out of them, they have bottled it. Bottled it big time. Arsene’s mismanagement of players, his lack of awareness in the transfer market and stubbornness in terms of tactical flexibility has cost us this season. While the transfer of Ozil saved his face for the first half of the season, injuries to key players has exposed his hubris. We can’t go on like this forever, for better or worse, something new and fresh is needed.

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    • Remember the game when RVP shot a look toward the bench as Wenger I believe took off (IIRC) Chamberlain our most effective player?

      This is not to excuse RVP for being a twat but I do suspect there is a bit more to that in some senior players not feeling fully confident with Wenger in the modern day and age to have the nous and tactical flexibity in carrying us forward, never mind market issues.

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      • Felt this way a long time. Maybe players have lost faith in the boss and his methods.

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  141. I hear and fully understand the sentiments in the comments that Wenger needs to go. I feel as frustrated as the next fan. But can we really judge Wenger on the last 9 years? He’s revolutionized our whole club.

    I believe since he’s started the building of our new stadium and facilities, this is really his first season to be judged on. I know it’s been tough but I honestly believe this is the start of a rebuilding process financially on the pitch.

    Please guys, if we want to see Arsenal make it into Europe, we’re gonna have to get behind the team and manager regardless. Otherwise kiss the transfer opportunities goodbye.

    Disappointing day.

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    • I dont think fans have the patience anymore for Wenger. Even if he and his supporters think he should get a final crack. He should be judged by these last 9 years as well, especially not taking the domestic cups seriously until the last 2-3 years. Could have added some winning mentality that has been lost.

      I’d like him to stay for a few more years as i dont think the board has prepared enough for his departure. Gazidis doesnt exactly instill much confidence in being able to make hard decisions. A couple of more years to identify targets and strengthen the board with some football people.

      Wenger has been a major dissappointment this season in the transfer market. Got lucky with ozil.

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    • FakeRobertPires

      I hear you, however, don’t you feel Arsene has repeated several of his mistakes, multiple times over the last 4-5 years? I feel most people are bored by his excuses and need something new.

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    • Afraid to say this was a watershed year. Had he carried us forward (maybe even 3rd of better with an FA win), it would represent some progress.

      But the last 4-5 seasons have been all too similar. This season we did not have the distraction of any big assets leaving yet we are still in familiar territory having broken the bank (to his credit) for Ozil.

      that is a massive indictment of his methods that somehow, either he is short in market to his own doing (and critically, we are just slightly short which makes it more frustrating), or his methods on the pitch are not good enough to make up for the margins against the top teams (never mind Everton)

      We will need 4th spot or risk loss of allure and make it difficult to land the players we need. this above FA cup which will be at best a consolation or a retirement Rolex.

      The dissapointment for most fans is made all the more stark in that Wenger was sucessful in having the team punching above its weight for most of the season but the shortfall up front came home to (predictably) haunt us.

      When the script is so predictable even to fans, there is something clearly wrong.

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      • I say this as a fond admirer of the man and all he has brought to the club, not some of the knee jerk looneys commonly found on the boards.

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    • Fair points. But its boring now. And the excuses sadly don’t stack up. The players are ‘afraid’ of too many things, winning hard games away from home, winning convincingly (lots of people won’t agree but too many dull 2-0 wins this season…you can’t creep to the league title like Fergie used to do anymore. Seems like handing out hammerings is the way forward), changing plans during a game and so on.

      I’ve been massively worried about Ozil. Not his performances at all. But from a psychological point of view. It must be hard to play with Ronaldo and then Giroud. I know Walcott has been missing etc. But Wenger did this to Fabregas. Instead of handing him Alonso to play with he had Denilson and Song. It would play on any persons mind. Just saying.

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  142. It pains me to say it but its time for Wenger to step aside. He is way too old fashioned now. Trusting players to figure out what to do is not good enough. If I was Martinez I would be really very very interested in coming to Arsenal. An outstanding 14/15 players plus cash. Good youngsters etc etc.

    Wenger should have been blooding Gnabry throughout the season. A bolder manager would have. Given Ozil a break. Pushed Szceszny with Fabianski harder. Bought a striker. Kept Coquelin to give Arteta breathers to cope with the season. Kept Bendtner on side to give Giroud breathers.

    Unfortunately for Arsene he is the common denominator in season after season of collapse, at the beginning or collapse at the end.

    Someone said to play Wengerball you need the best players in the world. Pires, Cole, Vieira, Bergkamp, Henry. He had five of the best players in the world plus Campbell and Ljungberg etc. Frankly, they should have won multiple championships and the champions league too.

    It’s been great. It’s over.

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  143. Fucking shambles! It should be ok to say now that the collapse is in full fucking flight without being censored arseblog:-)

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  144. Fuck we have some dross in this squad. And to think some of them have been given contract extensions.

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  145. I am sad.

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  146. Worse thing about today is it didn’t surprise me at all.

    And as things currently stand we don’t deserve to finish in the top 4. Losing to your rivals for the top 4 places in the way we have this season away from home is pitiful, especially when you consider we only managed 1 win in the return legs at home.

    Regardless of injuries that was completely unacceptable. The majority of our players simply aren’t as good as we have all been fooled into thinking they are. There is also no belief, except for when we have to dig out a last day win against mid table opposition to qualify for the champs league.

    And that for me simply isn’t good enough any more, and with that in mind is severely under pressure from even being obtained this year.

    No belief, tactically stale, it’s all just far too predictable now. Perhaps it is time for a change?..

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  147. Thierry Bergkamp

    I remember a few months ago, this team were being compared to the invincibles!

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  148. If you still believe Wenger is the man to take us forward you are kidding yourself. We need a young, fresh and hungry manager.

    Now is the time for change. Do you seriously trust Wenger to spend 100 million on players in the right positions?

    Certain factions of my fellow goons need to stop deluding themselves. If this was your wife of 20 years and she cheated on you at least 6-7 times a year for the last 9 of those years together you , but always explained her actions by saying it was an accident you would leave her wouldn’t you?!

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  149. I can honestly say that every single Everton player looked a better player than ours in that game. All bar rambo and ox looked like they just didnt want to be there while Everton were so damn hungry.
    “Hard work beats talent when talent doesnt work hard”
    *sigh*

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  150. Red socks again

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