Wenger rules out another forward signing

Wenger rules out another forward signing

Arsene Wenger has essentially ruled out signing another forward this summer, as he’s happy with the collection of strikers and wide-men at his disposal.

Speaking after the Boreham Wood friendly on Saturday, the Arsenal manager was quizzed about his transfer intentions, and with plenty still clamouring for another forward, he said, “Up front we don’t need any more. We need a goalkeeper for sure and after that it depends on how our midfielders get through without injuries until the start of the season.

“Maybe at centre-back we’ll still bring one in.”

Having signed Alexis Sanchez from Barcelona for £30m, it seems the Chilean’s versatility is what drove the Frenchman to do the deal. Capable of playing wide on the left or right, as a solo striker or with a more traditional front man like Olivier Giroud, he can fill many roles in the Gunners front three.

Wenger also has the likes of Theo Walcott, Lukas Podolski, Yaya Sanogo, and Costa Rican Joel Campbell to bolster his attacking options.

There have been rumours of an Arsenal move for Mario Balotelli but that was flatly denied this weekend by their CEO Adriano Galliani who said, “We have not received any offer and at this time, there is nothing from Arsenal.”

Meanwhile, it’s being reported that Colombian goalkeeper David Ospina could travel to London today to complete his £4m move from Nice.

More on that as and when it happens.

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    • Because Wenger loves transfer gossip. Even if he knows it’s bollocks. He just can’t get enough. Then he comes on sites like these and leaves controversial and provocative comments under the pseudonym fatgooner. I’m thinking that, apart from a GK and a CB if TV5 does leave, Wenger feels he has enough in all departments. We do have two players for every position and I can’t see him shipping Flamini or Arteta. I sincerely hope this is not the case, we were exposed time after time last season by runners from midfield that a real DM would alleviate, but Wenger’s track record and the amount of players at his disposal (Diaby or Wilshere can also do a job there) that I don’t think he’ll be busting a gut to bring anyone else in.

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      • Infinity thumbs up, just for suggesting fatgooner is Wenger in disguise! That would be such a Wenger thing to do, wouldn’t it? Come on here with all his “Wenger is crap” comments and bizarre transfer suggestions and just plain nuts team selections, just to confuse the hell out of us and rile us all up! Oh, the irony of suddenly realizing we have just given Wenger 237 thumbs down for his comments!

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    • It is stated on todays Arseblog that the news where indeed given on yesterdays press conference, but that they where ‘embargoed’. This means that no one can write about it until a set time. I am a bit in the dark of why football clubs would do that, but apparantly it is quite common, not least in politics where it makes a whole lot more sense to me.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_embargo

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      • Ermahgerd…Arsenal is run exactly like North Korea!

        Except we don’t have death camps for dissidents, obviously. Or fire missiles at our neighbours. Or have missiles at all in fact.

        Thinking about it, we’re nothing like North Korea.

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        • That guy fatGooner does use the word ‘glorious leader’ a lot though, they use sayings like that a lot in north korea, maybe he’s from pyongyang, he has a kind of hysterical/dictator vibe moving….

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  1. I really don’t think we need any more options up front. With the likes of Campbell, Afobe & Gnabry knocking on the first team door i think we can afford to loan out sanogo to find his composure in front of goal and still have enough options.

    Abit worried about the defense at this stage if we arent expecting Mertersacker to start the season from the get go. Would love to see a new Central defender being brought in this week before we travel to the U.S, but the worrying thing is I haven’t heard of any names being thrown about at all.

    Any more news on that Djourou? Maybe he will stick around after all. I’d prefer him than gamble on the youngsters at this point in time.

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    • Djourou is gone and on a permanent with the HSV. Saw an interview with him on Sky Sport in Germany during a HSV training camp.

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      • I thought Djourou had signed a permanent deal with Hamburg but yesterday he was still listed as one of ours on arsenal dot com. Probably they’ve just not bothered to update it for ages?

        Agree with the sceptism about Diaby and Sanogo. Poor Diaby has never managed more than three games on the trot so I’m not confident he ever will – he’s got one leg shorter than the other which puts extra strain on virtually every muscle he has, hence his terrible record. Real tragedy as before Dan Smith severed his foot from his ankle he looked like he’d be one of the world’s very best.

        As for Sanogo, he may eventually be utterly magnificent, but right now he’s a long way behind Akpom in usefulness, composure and skill and shouldn’t be taking up one of our scarce non-home-grown places. I’d guess if a lower-league club was willing to be responsible for his wages and development he’d be sent out on loan, but I can’t see any of them queuing up for his services, whereas the excellent Campbell is in high demand from both Premiership clubs and abroad – Pulis wants him, poor Campbell, as does Mark Hughes, not to mention Olympiakos who’d like to keep him permanently. Really hope we don’t have to let him go because of the shortage of non-home-grown places and the difficulty of finding a loan deal for Sanogo. Maybe a lower-league French club would take Sanogo, though given the lack of offers for him last summer – he said was going to retire from football altogether if we hadn’t taken him – I’m not holding my breath.

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    • I have a feeling that if Vermaelen leaves, Wenger will sign another CB, and count on the likes of Miquel, Pleguezelo and Hayden to chip in with appearances as 4th choice CB. Losing Sagna means we don’t have another emergency CB (unless Debuchy can do that as well). As for forwards, Giroud, Podolski, Walcott, Sanchez, Campbell and Sanogo really should do the trick, with Akpom and Afobe hoping to get appearances in the Carling Cup. Really hope Sanogo gets a goal in pre-season. The lad needs a confidence boost!

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      • we tend to hv too much speedy forward though…wat if giroud gets injured? Sanogo? really? so we will pretty much b one dimensional without giroud….just saying….may b a remy would do u know

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    • Just checked the facts about Djourou on transfermarkt.de

      http://www.transfermarkt.de/hamburger-sv-offenbar-verpflichtende-kaufoption-fur-djourou/view/news/154645

      This piece says that his loan deal had a mandatory clause – with his 20th league appearences HSV had to buy him (something between 2,5 and 3,5 mio €). He stated: “I’m happy that HSV bought me”. His contract will run till 2016. The coach mirko Slomka said: “I’m happy that he will stay”.

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  2. Not the one to judge players on YT videos, but saw this 24 minute compilation of Carvalho, seems to be the perfect Arteta heir with proper physical presence and brilliant distribution & tackling abilities.

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  3. Please don’t tell me you’re banking on Diaby being LANS Arsene when you say you’ll see how our mids go with injury. If that’s the case I can only hope you hold onto your Coq.

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    • That was, unfortunately, exactly how I read it.

      I don’t think it should be an issue though, given Arteta and Flamini are not getting any younger, there’s going to be a gap there sooner rather than later; means that Carvalho deal looks like the kind of thing we’d want to do.

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  4. Oh does?

    in that case make this your by-line blogs.

    “Wenger acts early to ruin Arsenal EPL and UCL title chances”

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    • Warum?

      Am surprised this is getting any thumbs up – possibly because those who like it aren’t noticing the ‘un’? – but I agree with you actually, meine Unglueclichkeit centring on the shortage of non-home-grown places we’ve got left – one to be precise, now we’ve signed a foreign keeper. So unless can we loan out Sanogo or simply not declare him as part of our Premiership squad, there’s room for only one more top signing, when we need and have money for two. Central defender or defensive midfielder? To judge by last season, without both our defence is going to continue to leak against the top sides so we’re sure going to need our attack to deliver plenty of goals.

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      • Why do we limit our assessment of our performance against the big teams to the heavy defeats? We’ve also had close games with them. These things are one off. Do you think Germany can repeat the 7-1 with Brazil or Holland the 5-1 against Spain?
        Even without a ‘special’ defensive mid, I don’t think the scores against those big teams can be repeated. There is also no guarantee that if you have a defensive mid you won’t get thumped like that. The teams I cited above had very good defensive mids in them.
        I think a football match is more complex than that. Bayer lost 4-1 at home to Real Madrid. I can go on and on but I am sure I’ve made my point.
        If you look closely at last season, you will see that we were undone by the small games – Aston Villa, everton and Swansea at home and Stoke and Southampton away. With better results in those games, we would be champions now.

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        • You’re so right. Why focus on defeats when they are all simply one-offs and, had they not happened, we’d have won the title by a considerable margin. In fact, if you discount these unrepresentative and misleading defeats, we DID win the league, and the Champions League too, as we do every season – just so long as you discount the irrelevant and entirely misleading way in which we failed to top the group and went out in the first round of the knock-out stages.

          Yes, indeed you’ve made your point with admirable clarity. No need at all to improve the defence since, as you say, even teams with better defences than ours still lose by large margins on those occasions they happen to encounter a superior team. Such a pity the league tables still take these irrelevant scorelines into account. How much fairer it would be if meaningless results like 6-0 were simply discounted as not being an accurate reflection of the quality of the two sides involved.

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  5. These ‘quotes’ are from the appallingly bad Daily Express. They are totally different to the actual words Wenger spoke after the Boreham Wood game.

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    • It amazes me that professional media outlets constantly get away with this stuff. You don’t get to paraphrase if you’re using quotation marks ffs

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        • That’s interesting. Why would Arsenal go through the effort of embargoing a statement from a press conference / interview?

          What could possibly have made them want to avoid this information getting out on Sunday rather than Monday?

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        • It’s common practice really.

          For example, Wenger does his press conference on a Friday. He then meets the ‘print’ journalists and the stuff they discuss is embargoed until 11pm that night.

          Often, the club will grant access to a player/players for interview, but the majority of that content is embargoed until the weekend. It’s why you see stuff in the Sunday papers that you don’t in the dailies …

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        • Yup, I’m aware of that. But like you mentioned, the embargo usually doesn’t last longer than 11pm or “off stone”.

          Could it be that the Arsenal press room are being extra cautious about the kind of information that goes out regarding transfers? They’ve made a few staff changes in the media team as well I’ve heard.

          It’s not unheard of for clubs to have agreements in place during negotiations where if info gets leaked, the buying or selling club pulls the plug.

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  6. With Arsenal signing GK/Ospina then does that mean were not signing another foreign player? If Wenger is still in the market for a CB then its a replacement for Vermaelen.
    Miquel & Hayden then will need to come up with a strong consistent preseason. Now or never! COYG!
    John Terry is a cunt!

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    • Hayden looked decent against Boreham Woood but I reckon I might be able to put in a half decent performance agaionst them with Rambo in front of me!

      I thought he looked good when he played last season too, against Liverpool I think it was. Gawd help us if he ends up 3rd choice CB though….

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      • Yes, but Hayden wasn’t severely tested by Boreham Wood’s attack! People who watch the kids regularly seem to think the other, younger kid, beginning with A – Ayiay, something like that – is even better. Be interesting to see if he gets a go in New York or the Emirates Cup.

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        • I remember hearing he was highly rated when we signed him last summer (or was it January?), I guess there’s a chance one of them could usurp Miquel for the 4th choice position with a good pre-season so it will be interesting to see.

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        • “signing”

          What the…? English isn’t my first language, and I’ve mostly learned what I know by reading about football, but surely you must mean “swooping for”?

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  7. Yup… someone sat on this piece of info while i had a field day with my mates arguing over wether arsene should be in the market for another foward or not.

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  8. Not surprising to be honest. I wasn’t expecting another forward.
    In terms of depth at least, we’re OK. But quality is a concern. While Giroud will be a better player when he’s not fatigued, Sanogo/Akpom aren’t really ready, Campbell is a wildcard who seems more suited to the wide role to me, Walcott’s form in the middle is patchy, Podolski’s poor in the middle, and although Alexis is world class, I have doubts over his suitability to the central role at Arsenal.

    Like I said, not surprising and we do have the numbers, but it still seems like a weakness in the squad to me. But if not signing another forward means we do sign a midfielder then the squad gets stronger and that’s OK.

    So it’s not ideal, but an IDEAL transfer window comes once in a blue moon. This one’s still looking pretty good.

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    • It wasn’t so much a ‘Centre Forward’ we were after, as much as a ‘Goalscorer’. Sanogog can do the donkey work well enough, from what I’ve seeen, to keep the guys who can score busy with chances enough to win games.

      Wouldn’t say no to Benzema though.

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  9. I have said it before that, after buying of Sanchez, I knew very well that Arsene Wenger is not going to buy a central striker as most people use to think. I also agree with Wenger, there is no need for a central striker, we have Giroud, Campbell and Yaya Sonogo, that means up-front is fine, with the coming of Sanchez. What normally counts is the system of play that Arsene Wenger use. If he buy a strong defensive midfielder, then we will be home and dry.

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    • Need has never figured much in Wenger’s thinking. He buys players he likes, not what we’re short of – Oezil being the classic example – so if a quality striker comes available very cheap at the last minute I wouldn’t rule it out. I wouldn’t even rule out Balotelli if Milan are really desperate to be rid of him and the price continues to drop.

      What did people think of Willock? I’d never heard of him and was wondering who he was in the training pictures.

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      • I thought Willock looked quite a decent talent. Nowhere near ready for the first team yet, but lots of promise.

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    • Do you need a special Giroud call? like with ducks? Or do you just roam around North London nightclubs with a shotgun?

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  10. I agree, we don’t need any more forwards. A large part of our woes last year was that we had only Giroud up front while many of our forward options were injured. Chambo, Podolski, Walcott and Sanogo missing large portion of the season. Cazorla was knackered after playing continuous football with the Euro and Confed cup leaving little time for rest. This year we will be much better with players getting good rest.
    I would like a quality CB signing and the imminent arrival of Ospina.

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  11. I think Caughtoffside are the most reliable folks when it comes to transfer matters. Holding my breath for kharida announcement today.

    No physical signs of Khadera traveling to London, perhaps, he would teleport. If Caught offside says it is, then it is what it is. They are never wrong.

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  12. Before the start of summer, many fans wish lists were:-
    Replace Fabianski:- Ospina link strong
    Replace Sagna:- Debuchy signed
    Sign a Striker:- Sanchez signed

    If we sign a CB, it’ll be to replace Vermaelen, and if he pulls a rabbit out of the hat for a DM, all hail Wenger. That’ll be a bonus.

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  13. I’m undecided. Is Wenger actually being honest? Or is it his usual red herrings and smoke screens? Smoked red herring screens?

    “We need a goalkeeper for sure […] Maybe at centre-back we’ll still bring one in”. Sounds like we’re keeping Vermaelen…

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  14. We DO need a striker to compete for the title!!

    Giroud is good but not good enough, Sanchez needs to play a wide role (when) walcott is injured or podolski..

    Sanogo needs to be on loan with Campbel..

    and we really really need that DM, Khedira thanks, if not Bender

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    • If you think we bought Sanchez as backup for Walcott and Podolski then I’m going to ignore what you said about Giroud, Sanogo, and Campbell too.

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  15. Mmm. Not sure how I feel about not signing another forward, but alright. We really do need one more defensively minded midfielder though. I just hope all our good work so far isn’t undermined by a reluctance to finish the job.

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    • I”m hoping, with fewee injuries in midfield and more posibbility of the Ox in midfield, that Arteta will be more rested and not look so tired in the big games at the sharp end of the season. If that’s the case we’re okay with not signing someone there until next summer but it’s still a big rsik imo.

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  16. I think we are in for a GK and CB, and that’s it for the summer. Would be surprised if we get a DM

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  17. I am more worried about the midfielder comment. I know we have a lot of midfielders, but there is a clear lack of DM in the squad. If we are hoping no-one gets injured before signing a midfielder then that is disappointing.

    Not bothered about a striker, but DM, CB and GK are musts.

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  18. A keeper is a given and a cb if verm leaves. Nowhere near enough to win the league. Looks like money in the bank could again be more important than actually really going for the title.
    Our rivals have strengthened hugely and anyone who believes manure will not come back know stronger under van gal is a fool.

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    • I agree. City have strengthened and they’ll be more settled – first seasons under new managers are usually a bit trial and error. Chelsea have strengthened a lot. United still have a rubbish squad but look what van Gaal managed with the rubbish Dutch. Besides no CL will help United a lot, like it helped Liverpool last year. I’m still hoping we can get third ahead of them, but with our current squad – no proper DM, no adequate cover in central defence – and with a lack of non-home-grown places available – I can see us falling short in the way we did last year.

      Remember what Liverpool, Chelsea and City scored against us; remember that Everton managed 3 and that our best defensive pairing couldn’t stop even Hull getting 2. We were lucky with injuries last season in that neither Kos nor Merte were out for more than a couple games. It would be madness to count on that luck happening again, and if we want to improve we should be signing someone who can challenge Merte and Kos. We also need a DM. The best defence in the world gets better when given a bit of help from midfield.

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  19. I fear that without a truly commanding presence in midfield next to Ramsey the struggles against our top rivals won’t have changed any at all. Sanchez, Debuchy and a top class number 2 goalkeeper doesn’t change those deficiencies. Arsenal might have 7-8 really good midfielders but none that will consistently stop the best teams exploiting our lack of pace in DM. Arsene needs to address the problems in the team. Has he really done that?

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    • Sanchez has pace and Campbell has presence, energy, unselfishness and goals. Until Walcott and Gnabry (and possibly Ox who still has a knee niggle?) return in the autumn, Campbell could be very useful wide right – sweetest left foot in Europe, imo.

      What we haven’t addressed is the defence. In fact, with the loss of Sagna and the cover he provided at centre back, we’re weaker than last year.

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  20. This is my first post here.. Great blog!

    As for not adding a forward. I don’t know how to react to this. I understand what Wenger is saying in terms of numbers but I also see Arsenal videos from last season and the first thing that stands out is Giroud’s misses that any good CF will score. And that would mean we’re winning games 3-0,4-0 instead of nail biting,awkward finishes. Giroud is a very very good striker but I really hope we can be opportunistic if a Benzema becomes available. That’d be perfect.Other than that, a front three of Alexis-Ox-Theo will be scary for the defenders!

    Bring on the next season already!

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  21. Speaking of Arsenal strikers (totally not a weak link coming up), I came across an interesting article about Sanogo, but it’s from a year ago and has an embarassing slip:
    http://www.just-football.com/2013/07/yaya-sanogo-introducing-arsenals-latest-french-prodigy/

    People don’t realise how much Sanogo’s injuries have set him back. He spent 18 months out because of a knee injury, and when he returned he only had one season with Auxerre before joining us. These are his own words about his injuries:

    Arsenal: You grew up with people saying how great you were at a very young age. How did you deal with it?

    Sanogo: You try to make abstraction of it, to not think about it. At 16, I was scoring a lot of goals and people were saying it a lot. And look what happened? I had a very serious injury, I was out for 18 months and people stopped saying it! Talk means nothing. What is important is what you show on the pitch. My injury delayed me. Now, I’m getting the lost time back by working hard in one of the biggest clubs in the world. In a year or two, I will be where I should have been without the injury.

    A: Finally, you had that horrendous knee injury while at Auxerre that kept you out for 18 months. Were you close to giving up and doing something else?

    S: It was tough, very tough. I lost patience, I lost faith and I almost gave up. I had my family on one side that I had to support but because it was such a long injury I was not paid any more by Auxerre. Things started to get difficult for me and for everybody around me. My family was relying on me and I thought about doing something else and getting a proper job to get a salary. So I considered retiring from football and working at the Post Office. I was that close from stopping. But I persevered. I gave it one last go. I worked hard on my knee injury and I got better and I have never looked back. It was a really stressful time. I am a Muslim, I am very religious and my faith helped me a lot to go through everything and to overcome a very difficult time.

    He’s obviously very intelligent too! We should all know how a long term injury can set a player back. I for one think Sanogo has great potential, even more than Campbell.

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/features/20140423/-coming-here-was-always-a-dream-

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    • I’m not doubting his potential. The problem is, he’s not ready to take up a first-team place. Since I can’t see any English club giving him the game time he needs – why should they? they’re not responsible for his development, they just want three points on a Saturday – perhaps the best thing would be to leave him playing in the academy league (if he isn’t too old) till January and then see how much he’s improved.

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  22. So we ideally need a DM who can be a back CB as well.. Alex Song anyone?

    I wouldnt hate such a move actually; provided some discipline can be drilled into him. Not the defensive beast we would all like, but decent enough backup player and knows the club and manager.

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    • I’d welcome Song with open arms. Always liked him. He did an excellent unheralded job doing the dirty work in midfield. A quality defensive midfielder who’s cheap and, even more important given our current squad-size predicament, he’s HOME-GROWN, he wouldn’t be taking up a valuable first-team space, thus enabling us to sign a much-needed defender as well as any other top-class player Wenger finds available at a bargain price at ten to eleven on the last night of the window. He can also cover at centre back so he’d tick all the boxes for me.

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    • Song really?

      Turd of a player that exposed our defence time after time by being out of position whilst looking for Hollywood passes for his mate and fellow turd, Van Persie.

      Also became a bad apple when fishing for his move to Barca where he got bugger all playing time as they realised they bought a duffer.

      Song…. No thanks.

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  23. Arsenal no longer pursuing Khedira but still in market for DMF, will sign GK & probably DF depending on Jenkinson/Vermaelen situations – David Ornstein, BBC

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  24. I’d also be very surprised if we bring in a DM.

    After all, Wenger has always rated Diaby highly and stuck with him throughout all his fitness troubles. Should he finally catch a break and make it through the season, I do hope he can be a presence that will add vital depth and experience as a midfield anchor. Like in that game against Liverpool last year.

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  25. Anyone else think that Chuba Akpom should have a go instead of Sanogo this season? Or at least in the Capital One Cup. I mean the way he thrashed those two defenders on saturday had me jumping up and down on my sofa

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    • Yes, I do, though from what I saw of him last season in the kids’ games his finishing (though better than Sanogo’s) is still a bit iffy. Hope he gets given a chance in New York and the Emirates Cup and he should definitely play in the Capital One.

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  26. Looking at Sanchez’s ability to play through the middle, I believe the Sanchez signing is the Suarez signing that did not happen last year. Arsene will use Sanchez the way he planned to use Suarez

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  27. if vermaelen were to go, surely we make Ramsey the next captain and keep him will the club as a lifer (or as close to as possible as we can). finish his career as an arsenal legend.

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  28. I honestly can’t believe some of the complete bollocks that I’ve read on this website today.

    Of course we absolutely need another striker – it’s fucking essential if we are to challenge for the Premier League and the Champions’ League this season. This is the reason why I was so vehemently opposed to Wenger signing a new contract this summer: he’s gonna do exactly what he’s done over the past eight years and leave us with a squad which is two or three players short of one that can win the title.

    Let’s just take a close, forensic look at the situation. Having signed Sanchez, we now have just two strikers of any real quality. Campbell is a fine young prospect but needs games; and Sanogo should be out on loan because he’s not even worth a place in a mid-table Championship team. So we needed to bring in a third striker. We are competing for four trophies, and if we go deep into those competitions then we’ll need strength in depth. And if either Sanchez or Giroud picks up a long-term injury then we could find ourselves in deep shit.

    Like I said at the weekend, Loic Remy was available for just eight and a half million quid: we should have snapped him up. He was precisely what we needed: a pacey quality striker who can come off the bench against tired legs. But, hey, we’ve got Yaya Sanogoals: let’s play him in the Champions’ League like we did last year. What a fucking joke.

    Wenger’s biggest weakness is his inability to quickly identify and rectify the faults in our squad. Apart from a quality striker we still need a centre-half, defensive midfielder and a reserve goalkeeper (yes I know he’s about to sign one – but he hasn’t yet). With pre-season already under way we are still at least three players short. Typical.

    So let’s get ready for yet another season of underachievement. I think we’ll finish fourth again and then bomb out of the Champions’ League at the last-sixteen stage – again. But at least we’ll have plenty of money in the bank. And that’s all that matters to the club. And, of course there are still plenty of muppets who think Wenger is some kind of god. Idiots.

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    • Haven’t you noticed? Giroud is bullet proof, he’s virtually never injured. And that’s quite something for a Gunner. Last season Sánchez only missed 6 games with injury, the season before that 17, so not quite injury prone (granted, not quite bullet proof either). Plus we have that new American physio or doctor or whatever. I mean, it’s simply not possible for us to get more injuries this season than last. And anyway, why are you predicting doom for our strikers?

      Plus we have Walcott who can play at CF. Last season he showed glimpses that he ca do very well there. I’d much rather have Walcott doing that job than Remy clogging up the space in our squad; we still need a GK and CB at the very least, remember? And if Walcott plays as the CF, we have Chambo and Gnabry as back-ups to give us pace. Plus there’s Podolski as 4th choice, or Sanogo/Campbell/Akpom … take your pick.

      Pre-season has barely started. 99.999999999% of Gooners are over the moon we’ve signed a top, top forward and a good RB so quickly, and got rid of some more ‘deadwood’.

      Honestly Fatgooner, can’t you try just once in your life to be happy and support your club instead of bashing it all the time? Give it a try!

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    • Not as much of an idiot as a guy who gets his knickers twisted on a sports blog. Go kick a fucking can, mate. They’re free and they don’t argue.

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  29. Even if this was a smokescreen and we did sign another forward….fatgooner would still find something to moan about.
    Even if Sanago came good this year and scored 20+ goals….fatgooner would still find something to moan about.
    Even if we went another league season unbeaten….fatgooner would still find something to moan about.
    Even if we won every trophy available to us this year….fatgooner would still….ah, you get the drift I’m sure.

    Some people are only truely happy when they’re moaning. My ex was like that, and coincidently she was also fat and a gooner. Andrea, is that you?

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    • I don’t know. For once, if you get past his tone, Fatgooner makes a couple of good points.
      Still, its early, and perhaps we will get a DM, CB, AND a striker. My issue with Fatgooner is that he is speaking too early, the window has not closed and the season has not begun, but he is responding to a quote from AW after all. And look, we all were in agreement that another goalscorer was needed at the end of last season. Don’t you think Alexis is not going to lead the line, only be the second striker when we play 4-4-2? Unless there is a permanent change of system, the need for a Giroud type striker remains. Unless we believe Sanogo is showing us something he did not yet show us last season. So if we agree that Sanogo needs time, and that we were short of attacking output in terms of goals last year (something Wenger himself admitted), then his point stands.
      And about DMs, Arteta is great, and so is Flamini, but we saw what happened last year with the bad games. Perhaps pace up front would prevent teams from pressing us as high as they did, but we still need our own protection, not simply attacking pace being the best form of defense.
      If he changes his whiny tone, Fatgooner might find a more receptive audience here, because all of us seem to care about having a squad that is not short in a crucial positions.

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      • Wenger sees the goals we lacked last season, and the source of them for the season about to start, as being on the wings. Walcott and Sanchez will provide the extra goals from wide positions feeding off Ozil and Giroud. Therefore Wenger doesn’t want to spend money on another striker when he can spend it in other positions that need it.

        He expects Sanchez and Walcott to have a similar effect to what Suarez had last season with Liverpool. Would anybody have said Liverpool needed another central striker when they had Suarez? I don’t think so.

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  30. Two things I’d take issue with:

    First, your scepticism about our signing a keeper. I don’t share that; I’m pretty sure Ospina is done already.

    Second, that you’re surprised by the comments. Where have been all these years? Of course Sanogo is ready for the first team and will be getting three goals a game even against the Premiership’s most solid defences, just like he demonstrated versus a conference side yesterday afternoon. Europe doesn’t have a more composed and reliable finisher than Sanogo right now. And of course we don’t need a defensive midfielder or to strengthen the central defence. Defensively we were the absolute tops last season v. Chelsea and co. Honestly, Fatgooner, you know how it works here. All our players must be pronounced the best in the universe (until they leave, of course, at which point they become rubbish) and we’re always going to win every trophy in sight – until we concede 6 against City or someone, that is, at which point precisely the same people who now bigging up Sanogo as already the equivalent of Messi and Drogba combined will be claiming he’s rubbish and Wenger ought be sacked. Realism and moderation don’t go down a bundle on here. They seem to be regarded as disloyal or depressing – which probably explains the peculiarly vicious and damaging way Arsenal fans boo their own players when things aren’t going well.

    If pre-season expectations were more realistic it would be better all round: (1) because fans would be less prone to take their disappointment out on the players whose fault these transfer windows are not; (2) because if fans were less overcome with excitement whenever we make an expensive signing (Oezil, Sanchez) and more focused on the strengths and weaknesses of the team as a whole, this might apply pressure on Wenger to plan and acquire a viable 25-man squad, rather than neglecting some key area (we’ve seen it with the keepers, the defence and the strikers in recent years) and trusting to luck on the injury front.

    Apart from that, I think your post is spot on.

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    • That Sanogo comment was a poorly veiled jab at me, wasn’t it? If you read my comment properly, I said I think Sanogo has great potential, more than Campbell, and I’ll add, more than Giroud, Walcott, and perhaps even Sánchez; and that his injuries (broken tibia, knee injury) have set him back a year or two. I’m not ashamed to say that about his opinion, that’s my honest opinion from watching him. Maybe I’m just thick, fair enough.

      But nowhere did I say Sanogo is the finished article right now, or is going to light up the league this season. In fact, I’ve previously stated that at the moment I think Campbell is slightly ahead of him, and furthermore in my opinion Campbell is, currently, just decent. What I believe is that Sanogo has great *potential*. Nothing more, nothing less.

      Our supposed defensive frailty is a myth. Those big defeat were all away from home, at Ashburton Grove we never lost to those same teams. The more likely explanation is psychological, rather than Arteta or Flamini being crap. Plus we did pretty well defensively against Dortmund and Bayern last season, even when we went a man down. And everyone can see we need another CB, no one is arguing against that, please don’t paint us as blind, tinfoil hat optimists.

      Last season we were close to winning the league (look at the table). We won the FA Cup. And we’ve strengthed. Yes, so too have our rivals, but it’s always been like that, in fact it was much worse in previous seasons. And yet somehow we survived just fine. Personally I’m not suggesting all is rosy, of course we can still improve. I just don’t see everything in a miserable light. I suppose it’s all a matter of persective.

      Blimey, I’ve no idea why I’m so cheerful today! Perhaps I should phone my mother to set me straight.

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  31. To be honest Kafka, I didn’t read all of his post cos I got the gist of it….which was, as is always the case with fatgooner posts, Wenger’s lost it and needs to be replaced.
    But even if Wenger was sacked after the first game of the season….fatgooner would still find something to moan about. ;)

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  32. A few short of the league yet again. We are not going to win the league with a forward consisting of Giroud, Campbell, Podolski and Walcott. It’s just maddening. If I was Wenger I would have also signed Fabregas and gone hard for Drogba, on top of the DM and keeper we’re going to get that would win us the league I have zero doubt in my mind. Sanchez is not going to lead the line at Stoke away. But this happens every year doesn’t it? Van Persie, Cazorla and Giroud wow that looked nice didn’t it? But it was only because Van Persie was leaving. It’s the same this year with Vermaelen.

    How on earth are we to compete with Barca, Madrid, Chelsea and Man City? At least sign someone with potential like Draxler. ‘Pool managed it with Torres and Suarez. I’m happy that we’re spending more money and getting things done early but it’s so clear to me we need another CF to compete properly.

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    • Suarez? Who the fuck was he before Liverpool bought him? Just a bitey bastard with a bit of talent. They didn’t buy Suarez as the finished article so why hammer Wenger for not being like Liverpool when he has bought Sanogo with all his potential? Sanogo ‘could’ become our Suarez.

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  33. A few short of the league yet again. We are not going to win the league with a forward consisting of Giroud, Sanogo, Campbell, Podolski and Walcott. It’s just maddening. If I was Wenger I would have also signed Fabregas and gone hard for Drogba, on top of the DM and keeper we’re going to get that would win us the league I have zero doubt in my mind. Sanchez is not going to lead the line at Stoke away. But this happens every year doesn’t it? Van Persie, Cazorla and Giroud wow that looked nice didn’t it? But it was only because Van Persie was leaving. It’s the same this year with Vermaelen.

    How on earth are we to compete with Barca, Madrid, Chelsea and Man City? At least sign someone with potential like Draxler. ‘Pool managed it with Torres and Suarez. I’m happy that we’re spending more money and getting things done early but it’s so clear to me we need another CF to compete properly.

    Yes, it’s a no go….

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  34. It’s not just about quantity but about quality.
    Ffs, We started Sanogo vs Bayern Munich.
    Hope it’s all a smokescreen otherwise we are in it for the 4th place trophy yet again.

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  35. @Policeman’s Bangers ‘N’ Mash. That looks dumbass of you to think like that. Poldi is one of the best finisher of the ball and Sanchez? We all know what he can do with the ball on his feet and Theophilos Walcot(wow) you know he is fast like a deer(football’s Usain Bolt).
    Well, about Sanogo and Giroud they are scrap for now esp Giroud but Sanogo can still improve. As for Campbell, Cant really say anything about him for now

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    • Poldi has consistently disappointed for Arsenal and Wenger doesn’t trust him. He is not a lone front man. Sanchez is not a lone frontman. Walcott certainly is not a lone frontman. Wow Walcott is fast like a deer, but he won’t lead the line, will he? And if he does he won’t do the business like our rival’s strikers.

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  36. I really was hoping we would have enough depth to allow Sanogo some time on loan to develop. Maybe his development will be quicker than I expect, though we’ve seen no evidence of that so far. I watched the whole match against Boreham Wood, and his finishing is exactly the same as it was 5 months ago.

    Yes, I know, it’s a pre-season match and all that, but you’d still expect a striker to be able to kick the ball properly. The likes of Rosicky and Ramsey may have looked a bit “pre-season lazy”, but their ball handling and passing was still razor sharp. Of our strikers, Akpom looked way more confident and composed in front of goal than Sanogo did.

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    • Yeah, and that Ramsey is useless too and should be put on loan, eh?? He’ll never make the grade without a loan, will he???

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      • Expecting Ramsey like development is unrealistic. Do you honestly want to gamble our title chances on Sanogo doing what Ramsey did?

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  37. Do you know who we are forgetting about in this equation? Joel Campbell. Maybe we don’t need another striker

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    • I’m not forgetting Joel Campbell. I said above that he offers us energy, presence, unselfishness and goals. I said that with Walcott, Gnabry and possibly Ox unavailable at the beginning of the season with his sweet left foot he would be very useful cutting in from the right. But as this has got several thumbs down, it seems you and I are the only ones who believe he has something to offer.

      Then again, the thumbs down could be because I’ve also suggested that Campbell is currently much more deserving of a first-team space than Sanogo who I think, if he can’t go on loan, should spend till January in the under-21s, if he isn’t too old for that league, so he can fully recover from his injury, build up his confidence and work on his finishing. If after six months he’s converting 9 out 10 of his chances – which shouldn’t be too difficult in the kids divsion 2 – then he’ll be deserving of a first-team place and Campbell will have to be sold if there’s no room for them both. Up to now, however, Sanogo hasn’t in my view shown himself to be as ready as Akpom, let alone as useful as Campbell.

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      • Maybe the thumbs down are because for every player you praise you also seem to have to belittle one? That may be your idea of being a balanced fan, but it’s not everybody’s way of supporting the team. If you made praising posts and complaining posts separately you might work out where the thumbs down come from. You can say 9 positive intelligent and funny things in a post, but if the 10th seems unfair in some way to somebody the post will get thumbed down.

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        • Yep, sums it up to perfection.

          Such a shame the thumbs-down-getting types of comment aren’t simply deleted before they appear, or at the very least covered over like the low-rated one, or segrated in a separate area of the site – all optimism-conducive and heartwarming points to the right; all those expressing uncertainty, criticism and disloyalty to the left. In fact the approval/disapproval rating itself could be computer-generated, in cases of uncertainty purely on the basis of user-names.

          The only difficulty I can envisage is that the programme would have to be reversed in the event of a bad defeat so that all comments calling for Wenger’s sacking get awarded top marks with those calling for patience being automatically deleted for 48 hours – after which the programme is returned to the default setting.

          Shouldn’t be too hard to arrange, and with Fatgooner, me, possibly voldemort and a few other candidates automatically banned, and all expressions of uncertainty, nuance and upsetting evidence of human thought satisfactorily expunged, the site will be a much more congenial place.

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  38. I am delighted with Wenger’s work so far in the transfer window. However if we deviate away from signing a striker that would be madness. Have people forgotten how bad Giroud was against the top top sides? That’s the difference between a side winning FA Cup and 4th and one that wins the league. Guess we’re going for a cup and 3rd this season Wenger?

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    • To blame Giroud alone for the performances against the other top 4 sides is stupid because even if he’d scored a hatrick in all the away games we still wouldn’t have won any of them. Chelsea only dropped 2 points (to us) and they didn’t have a stellar striker and City won the league without any of their strikers getting over 20 goals. We didn’t have enough of a goal threat from other areas and a lot of players that would’ve provided that were injured for large chunks of the season.

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    • Watch how it goes, think it through, and come up with an answer that explains our strengths and weaknesses last season? Nah, fuck it. SCAPEGOAT!!!!!!!

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  39. Why people are down on Campbell is beyond me. Either they know talent when they see it or they don’t see how he’ll fit in. But I don’t have a doubt he’ll fit in

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  40. We’re not going to even challenge for the league without a proper striker. Yes we have sanchez, but he isnt going to get u 30 goals a season and of course the ever useless giroud might probably score 18 in the league and people here will claim he is God. Wenger should’ve both mandzukic…don’t care if he’s similar to giroud, he’s far better than he is. Remy would’ve been a decent addition too. Still think chelsea are favourites… Costa, cesc, filipe luis were exactly what they needed. Only way we won’t have signed a striker was if wenger signed griezmann/cesc..

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  41. Its been our consistent priority this summer.

    We still need a Cback and this will be of extreme importance as vermaelen has not been able to force his way into rotating through meterscielny.

    We will likely get Ospina who will be an excellent option to Szsc.

    We have a very dependable and PL seasoned Debuchy at RB who BTW keeps Sagna out of the French first team. he will be a stop gap to further assess Jenkinson and Bellerin

    Finally we have Sanchez to add to firepower. I don’t think Wenger sees him as an out and out CF so he will predominantly play on the wings but looks like we are also setting up to play with two strikers in a 4-4-1-1 as an option where both Sanchez and Walcott (maybe even Poldy ) could play off the big man Giroud.

    The other striker up top IMO is Campbell.

    not quite sure why there is so little excitement around him given his fantastic season at olympiacos and a very good outing in the world cup (Given Henry in france 98 at similar age was not as impressive)

    Campbell holds the ball up well considering 5’10 frame, is quick and has a good first touch + distributes well.

    I suspect wenger will have one last look at him pre-season before confirming him into the first team. he is of the age at 22, where many of our players have come good, Ramsey, Jack at 23 not to mention Henry. have we not learnt there is such a thing as organic development? Is a shuny toy the best solution or have we forgotten that like Ramsey, campbell has the propensity to improve further still? Why then send him on loan or sell him? Seems daft to me.

    The player instead up top I would be more worried about is Sanogo. He is the closest replicant to Giroud in terms of physique and has much promise but is young and has yet to find his feet.

    Again, i would think Wenger will see if Yahya can break his duck in pre-season. if not I would think despite what he says about not needing another striker, that there is still an option to get someone provided he doesn’t cost beyond 10m.

    Again, I don’t think we need a top billing name this time being that we already have Sanchez for creativity rather we need someone who will retain some of the height of giroud (and Sanogo on loan) whilst adding a bit of verve and creativity up top. if Michu at 28 was available for 10m under, I would grab him as he can also play at LW (When podolski leaves) or replace Rosicky in a season or so. he has PL experience and adds creativity for us up top not to mention is familiar with the likes of Santi etc.

    But at the moment, Cback is the next and most important priority.

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  42. I think Fats and Police-guy are jumping the gun a little.

    Can Sanchez lead the line like Giroud in a 4-1-3-1 system? Of course not! He is going to do so not as a target man but as a false 9.

    Now we all have bad memories of Gervinho leading the attack; simply because he missed so many sitters. But if you switch Forehead with Sanchez, I think Sanchez will bury them, on this form. Also let’s not forget we hammered Southampton 6-1 and were edged by Chelsea 2-1 (due to a kozzer brain fart) with Gerv playing as a false 9.

    I think this formation can work. And if we can alternate this with Giroud leading the line, that will solve problems in depth as well as being more unpredictable for sides.

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    • Those are very good points. However, I think a lot of people misunderstand the term ‘false 9′ as a striker who is a technical, small dribbler. In truth it refers to a a forward consistently dropping very deep to become another midfielder, creating space for midfield runs. Think Totti in Roma’s 4-6-0. I think Gervinho was just playing as a bona fide CF. His problem was just his finishing consistency, IMO. He would go on a mazy dribble, beat four players and then would make a mess of his finish. The only time I can remember playing with a false nine ever in Arsenal’s recent history is when we beat Stoke at home in 09/10 and Arshavin played up front but kept dropping off the shoulder to lay the ball to the wide players. Unfortunately, ‘false 9′ has also become the football hipster’s word of choice in the last three years or so. Totally agree about mixing up our options up front, though. 4-1-4-1 worked well this spring for a while.

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      • Sanchez will be our Bergkamp, not our fucking Rooney. That’s the secret. There you go. Striker conundrum solved.

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  43. I think the player we should get chico flores from swansea as a CB. he wont be too expensive but a decent signing with PL experience

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  44. League goals Giroud 17 Sanchez 15 Walcott 14 Ox 5 Gnabry 2 Ozil 7 Mertesacker 3 Koscielny 2 Debucchy 1Ramsey 11Flamini 1
    Sanogo 2 Rosicky 2 Wilshere 6 Gibbs 1 Monreal 1 Jenkinson 1 Diaby 2 Cazorla 7

    That makes 100………Good enough to win the league ?

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  45. I think Wenger is a little weary of what happened with Squillaci, Djourou and Sylvestre with regards to a fourth center back in the squad. It’s a position that requires a good knowledge of how your partner operates. That’s why I think Wenger decided to move Sagna from CB as well as to give the corporal some playing at RB.

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  46. No more forwards… Well, but if Arsene does not bring forth a DM. This will be our worst season ever.

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