Bournemouth 3-3 Arsenal – player ratings

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Bournemouth 3-3 Arsenal - player ratings

3-0 down and it looked as if we were going to get nothing from that game tonight, but three goals in the last 20 minutes got us a point in the end in a 3-3 draw – read the report of that crazy match here.

Disappointing despite the comeback. Here’s how the players rated.

PC
33
3.5
HB
24
2.5
SM
20
3
LK
6
4.5
NM
18
4.5
GX
29
4
FC
34
4
AI
17
4
AR
8
3.5
AS
7
6
OG
12
7
PC
33
4
HB
24
3
SM
20
3
LK
6
4.5
NM
18
4
GX
29
5
FC
34
5
AI
17
4
AR
8
4
AS
7
5.5
OG
12
7.5
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33: Petr Cech

4
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3.5
Readers
45

Had to make a couple of decent saves, but beaten a bit too easily for a couple of the goals and once again nowhere near a fairly badly struck penalty.

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24: Hector Bellerin

3
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2.5
Readers
37

Who are you and what have you done with the real Hector? Fouled for the third goal though.

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20: Shkodran Mustafi

3
arseblog
3
Readers
54

Perhaps brought back too soon, his worst display in an Arsenal shirt.

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6: Laurent Koscielny

4.5
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4.5
Readers
5

Looked off the pace today - fatigue probably an issue, he has played a lot.

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18: Nacho Monreal

4
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4.5
Readers
14

Not terrible, but part of a defence that was dodgy all night.

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29: Granit Xhaka

5
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4
Readers
53

Gave away a stupid penalty, but tried hard. Got an assist for the equaliser and was involved in the build-up to the Lucas goal with a clever pass to Giroud.

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34: Francis Coquelin

5
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4
Readers
40

Injured. Hamstring. Three weeks.

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17: Alex Iwobi

4
arseblog
4
Readers
46

Struggled tonight, some inconsistency in a 20 year old is not uncommon though

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8: Aaron Ramsey

4
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3.5
Readers
13

Really should have done better for the opening goal, but passed it with 94% accuracy and made 10 ball recoveries.

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7: Alexis Alexis

5.5
arseblog
6
Readers
38

Visibly frustrated at the end, and he was not his usual self tonight, quite wasteful, but his desire always gives you something and he got the first goal.

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12: Olivier Giroud

7.5
arseblog
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Readers
29

As poor as anyone for the opening 70 minutes, but ended the game with two assists and a goal. Focus on his celebration is misplaced โ€“ the issue was what Arsenal did (or didn't do) before that.

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15: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

5
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5.5
Readers
12

Added good delivery from set-pieces at least

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9: Lucas Perez

7
arseblog
7.5
Readers
55

Deserves a run in the side, he adds movement and finishing power that proved vital tonight. What a brilliant goal that was.

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5: Gabriel .

6
arseblog
6
Readers
44

Hopefully just on to give Koscielny a rest, but did grand.

Vote is now closed

Bonus rating: I don't have one. The only bonus I can think of is that we didn't lose. So 10/10 for that but 1/10 for the rest of the shite they dished up. Except for 8/10 for the last 20 minutes. This is all so confusing now.

158 COMMENTS

  1. Another note on Xhaka – really must work on corner delivery. At least three of his corners didn’t make it past the first defender which for a professional footballer at his level is not good enough

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    • He looked tired after about 90 seconds. Couldn’t lift his legs….Which is strange because he absolutely came alive in the last 20mins and produced a nice early cross for Giroud.

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    • Sorry to hijack this comment, but are we or are we not going to talk about the fact that Petr Cech is done and will eventually end up costing points rather than gaining 10 of them?

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      • I think the next penalty we concede, Cech should just close his eyes and stand still. He can’t do any worse than he has been doing.

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        • The idea that we’re dropping points because our keeper isn’t saving penalties is more than a little absurd, no? If you’re regularly giving away penalties, that’s a pretty good indication that you’re going to be struggling to pick up maximum points from every game, even if you have Manuel Neuer in goal.

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          • To clarify, I never expect the keeper to save a penalty. If he does, I consider it a bonus. I think it’s time for Ospina because Cech looks slow and labors to get down low. I feel Ospina would have saved both of the goals today.

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      • I’m not sure we’re at “done” quite yet – but there are two fairly persistent problems: conceding goals at the near post & penalties. (The latter he barely seems to try for – but surely could be improved on the training pitch?) On the other hand, he has kept us in a lot of games. On good day, he really shouldn’t be troubled as much as he has been recently. We have defensive problems – and they neither start nor end with Cech.

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          • Plenty of examples of keeper’s who do, on a fairly regular basis. Jens Lehman is a perfectly appropriate example of a keeper who prepared for his likely opposition penalty takers and who – as a result – saved more than a few of them. Cech was frequently compared to Lehman when he arrived, but – as yet – he hasn’t shown quite the same intensity or desire.

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      • I seem to remember a Peter Cech that was angry and shouting and a bastard you hated to have against you when he was in Chelsea. Now he is more like mr nice guy or santa claus. You want him to fucking scream and point and shout. Maybe a lack of confidence in him self, that makes it harder to have an opinion of others off course. Like to have an experienced keeper though. Tough.

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        • I do not doubt Cech’s desire, however it is a possibility that since he is now older and has practically won everything there is to win, he is probably more relaxed. Perhaps a younger keeper who still wants to succeed and prove himself as one of the best will put in better performances. Again, I am not doubting Cech’s ability or desire to win, they are just points that could factor into his slight decline.

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          • Totally disagree about his motivation & desire. People are right in that when a keeper saves a penalty, it’s a huge bonus – when teams win penalties they’re expected to score them.

            The issue with Cech is his near post. He doesn’t seem to know where it is at the moment, and it’s not just something that’s happened this year, it’s been an issue for a while (I’m thinking that Zarate goal for West Ham at The Emirates).

            Maybe it’s down to that now he’s a bit older, he doesn’t have the reflexes to get down as quickly as he once did, so he’s basing more on anticipation (and, to be fair he is pretty damn good at anticipating most things) expecting people to go across goal rather than the near post, and then it’s too late to react.

            Maybe it’s not that at all, and he just assumed the near post is Per Mertesacker, who has it covered. Easy mistake to make ๐Ÿ˜‰

            Anyway, worth putting in some time on the training pitch to try and iron this out. Cech is and always has been a proper professional, so I’m sure he’s aware of it.

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      • Cant believe what I see here. Cech is done and done, because he didnt have magical moment for last ten games and because he is not saving penalties (and because he isnt showing desire to catch the penalty, whatever that f*** means).

        REALLY?
        IS THAT HOW IT WORKS?

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    • I think Ospina should start. Chech has been dissappointing this season. Put him on the bench to keep him awake

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  2. The whole team just didn’t gel today. Sleeping for the first goal and one of the clumsiest penalties to give away for the second. Truth be told, we orchestrated our own demise.

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  3. Giroud’s Morecambe and Wise impersonation too good to resist sharing with the world – musta seen em on TV over Christmas for this first time!

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    • It’s not about the time Giroud’s goal was celebrated, it’s about the mentality that a point is good enough. This mentality has been the difference between winning and 4th place. Also getting the ball out of the goal and running to the halfway line immediately has a psychological effect on the other team that can help us nick it, rather 10 men of Bournmouth came closer to snatching it in the end because we looked satisfied with the draw. We seem all these years to be satisfied with playing good football alone. The question is is that mindset a factor of our coach or the different sets of players over the past decade? Your guess is as good as mine.

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    • The problem was that’s just what he did do until Coq went off! Then Iwobi moved back to the centre and Ramsey went deeper. Looked better then although Iwobi could not get passes away as he wanted too much time or tried to be too clever – still looked better than Ramsey had though.

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  4. I am really disappointed we didn’t win, but also really happy we didn’t lose. Lucas Perez looked really good when he came on, cracking goal. I know circumstances played a part, but that 4-4-2 towards the end of the match looked really intriguing. We could be 11 points behind Chelsea tomorrow. Sucks.

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  5. Agree that Giroud celebrated like a doofus but let’s be reasonable. Correct me if I’m wrong but the ref is supposed to add 30 seconds to the clock after each goal, right? We didn’t drop 2 points because of that celebration.

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    • But the referee didn’t add 30 seconds on to the end. He actually blew his whistle just before the allocated minimum of 6 minutes added time.

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      • Yes but that 30 seconds is not the reason we dropped points. Bad defending (1st goal), bad decision (penalty), bad ref(3rd goal). We should applaud the 2nd half comeback without the benefit of a halftime hairdryer.

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        • Are you saying the penalty was a bad decision by Xhaka or by Michael Oliver? I thought it was clearly a penalty. I also think the red card against Bournemouth was harsh (though not ridiculous, a la Mike Dean); on the other hand, the push on Bellerin could have been penalized–a little inconsistent with the standard set by the penalty decision–but, again, not ridiculous. (The red card was certainly inconsistent with some of the things Oliver has let go in recent matches.) And Oliver was decisive in negating the handled goal. So, certainly as compared with some other recent horror shows, a well-officiated match. No excuses there.

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    • As good as Michael Oliver is compared to that monumental thundercunt in charge of United v West Ham last night, the moment he blew up with five seconds remaining (WHILE WE WERE ATTACKING) pissed me off every bit as much as each goal we conceded. Annoyed with Giroud at the time but what followed put it into perspective. In hindsight I just find the worst timed/best choreographed celebration of the season more funny than anything.

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    • Wenger is only part of the problem. The main obstacle to us achieving the type is success a club of our stature should, is that bloodsucking cunt Kroenke!

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  6. I’m afraid that this season’s showing confirms that Arsene Wenger is not able to take the club any further.
    He has strengthened the squad over the last few years but in actual fact our league performance continues to decline. I will, of course, support my claim with some evidence please see below:

    2013/14 season = 79 points
    2014/15 season = 75 points
    2015/16 season = 71 points
    2015/16 after 20 games = 42 points.
    2016/17 after 20 games = 41 points.

    A clear downward trend which cannot be allowed to continue.

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    • you’ve put a pretty big spin on this…

      You have to look at what place we are finishing recently to see progress. Bottom teams are all much better; I believe all EPL 20 teams are in the world’s richest 30 clubs so all teams can buy good/great players now. Therefore, all top teams are achieving less points.

      But let’s not get distracted from the real issue: if someone could be so kind as to explain to me the difference between Xhaka’s penalty and what Fraser did to get the ball off Bellerin for the 3rd then that would be great ๐Ÿ™‚

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      • yawn. Excuses, excuses. Champion teams minimise excuses, we maximise them.
        We are just not good enough, despite a huge amount of spending.
        Is it the players, the manager or both?

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      • David C – it is ironic that you are accusing me of spin, given that is exactly what you are trying to do in your comment. I am simply stating some clear facts and you are ‘trying’ to put a positive spin on these negative but unquestionable facts.

        And if you think the ‘real issue’ is a poor referee decision in today’s match, then you really are on a different planet. The real issue is why Arsenal are underperforming this season.

        All that any football fan wants is for their club to maximise the potential of their resources. With the playing squad we have, we should not be fighting for 4th place with Spuds.

        Wenger is clearly underachieving, with the resources he has available. I love the guy for what he has done, but can’t keep making excuses for him.

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        • I think you nailed it here.

          I don’t expect us to always win the league but the main problem with arsenal is they don’t seem to be using all the resources available to them to go after the championship. If maximum effort = 4th place then fine, but it looks like they think half assed effort = winning the league.

          Look how under prepared we were for the first game of the season. At a top tier club, how is that acceptable?

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    • 2013-14: Finished 4th
      2014-15: Finished 3rd
      2015-16: Finished 2nd

      Points alone don’t tell the whole story. Having said that I’d like us to cross the 80 point barrier this season. Simply because no team has won the title with less than 80 points…

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      • We always hear about how every professional should be able to beat the first man on a corner, but I think that oversimplifies. Yes, every professional (and indeed, really poor, really old, amateurs like me) can easily float a corner high above the first defended. But great corners are those that just barely go over that first head and come rocketing into the area. If you try to do those, you will sometimes miss. If you miss often, you are rubbish at corners. But the cliche just makes it seem that a good corner is simple.

        The same with “he should at least have hit the target” when a shot goes slightly wide. Aiming for the corner, rather than for the keeper, always risks missing. Sometimes, “he” should have scored (and if he fails too often . . .) –but “hitting the target?”

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  7. Should there have been more rotation for this game? We really were 2nd best for a large majority of that game. Only 3 changes to the Palace game on less than 48 hour turnaround. Fatigue was definitely a factor.
    Press us with high intensity and energy. Run and Chase down everything. Arsene needs to find the balance to counter that because it looks like the blueprint to stop us.
    I’m sure today was jusy a one off from Hector. Probably partied the night before. He is still a young man.

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    • Ramsey was fully at fault for the first goal ,he looked and saw that Daniels was over there and said fuck it I will leave it for bellerin to deal with , he is indicative of everything wrong with arsene’s teams for the last 8 years or more , no responsibility. And that tool giroud doing his scorpion celebration for the equaliser when he should have been looking to take the ball back to the centre , what more can I say, this team will never win the league they have no back bone.

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      • OK. I can see Ramsey not tracking; don’t forget Ramsey is playing the number 10 at that point, so the question is where is Iwobi? and also where is the pressure to stop the cross-field ball … and then after that Bellerin is at fault and Cech is beaten at the near post. In other words, almost half the team is at fault.

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  8. Bournemouth played 31st,we played 1st,fatigue clearly an issue and then Chelsea gets to have even more break. This is just not right.

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    • The magic was Monsieur Giroud. And how could a foul be given for the penalty but a foul was not given before their third goal?

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  9. 3 years ago I thought Ramsey was on the verge of joining his compatriot Bale as the best British player…..how disappointing he is

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    • I agree–thought Alexis was terrific all game. I also think Iwobi did much better than Blogs does until, as apparently always, he runs out of steam and is substituted (Iwobi, not Blogs). Same with Koscielny–I didn’t see much wrong there. Mustafi looked terribly rusty, with his timing always a beat behind.

      This was surely a team for Theo to play against, as we saw when Lucas came on.

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  10. Probably an unpopular opinion, but this whole diva-like behavior of Alexis is starting to get tiring. I get that he is a world-class player who wants to win, but publicly sulking when things don’t go his way or he is subbed early, throwing tantrums when asked to pass rather than shoot, has got to stop.

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    • He wants to win and only recently he is doing that, would u blame him, he’s a winner, if other team mates had he’s energy we wouldn’t be having this conversation

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      • I get that he is disappointed at his team mates, and he is emotional. But wouldn’t it be better if he went back to the dressing room (hopefully acknowledge the fans that showed up) and then hash it out later on. Throwing a hissy fit at the end of a game is what people like Gallas did, not something you expect from a classy player like Alexis.

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        • if this was his first season at Arsenal, I would kind of see him being more careful about showing his disappointment on the pitch. However this is his third season and he is now 28 years old. He’s probably fed up of being nice, calm and collected and sees no change, so is getting to a point were seeing the same stupid mistakes and results happen is infuriating. I do not see him renewing his contract, and I don’t blame him one bit.

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    • His passes are shit! What are his accuracy stats for the last few games? And if anyone is knocking Girouds assist for his goal, they better be breaking the door down for that shit pass he gave Giroud for the wonder goal.

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    • Alexis can do whatever he wants. He has the ability to back everything up on the pitch. Even when he is not at his all time best he still hustles and digs in, he’s a workman like player. Plenty of arsenal players could take a lesson from Sanchez especially a certain welsh player

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      • On a day when the teamed sucked for 70 minutes, picking on Ramsey seems unfair. Let’s see what he can do, in a preferred position, alongside Xhaka in a run of games. If he proves to be a disappointment then I am with you.

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        • Everyone was saying his best position was at no. 10 and he never gets a chance there. He got a chance yesterday and in the cup and was absolutely dreadful and now apparently it is not his best position. It’s starting to become like Rooney at United. Anywhere he played he was poor and people were complaining it wasn’t his position.

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  11. Just a few words, just not good enough for a team like Arsenal.

    These are vital games that they should have win. And the worst of it, letting in three goals.

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  12. If there’s a goal in stoppage time then the referee is supposed to add more time on top of what was already allotted. I don’t see the big deal about his 20 second celebration.

    But of course Mr. Oliver blew the full time whistle when 5 minutes and 55 seconds of the minimum of 6 minutes were up. Add it to the list of decisions he got wrong tonight.

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    • Giving up 3 goals against the cherries is unforgivable. It’s not the refs fault or anyone else’s fault. And giroud should have retrieved the ball from the back of the net and got on with it. Show a bit of class. Bournemouth deserved a point at the very least.

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      • Unless I misread, Gervinho wasn’t saying that’s why we lost but was just highlighting it as a very valid point. If a minimum of 6minutes has been added on and there is a goal scored within those 6minutes, the referee should not be blowing up after 5minutes 55seconds.

        We obviously didn’t concede three goals because the full 6minutes wasn’t added on, but it’s still a valid point…

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  13. Notice how Arseblog always wants to convince us with Ramsey’s stats. About 90% of those passes were backward. He is not a starter.

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    • Yeah lol. And don’t forget the 10 ball recoveries, what a hero!
      If Blogs gave him a 4 then he must have been really shit.

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      • Thanks for the stats James. You have confirmed what everyone was suspecting – most of Ramsey’s passes were backwards.

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        • 19 of his passes were backwards.
          29 forward. 26 square.

          So no, not most of his passes are backwards. Also, just saying a pass played backwards tells you nothing. Sometimes that’s absolutely the right pass to make or the only pass a player can make. It’s not fundamentally a bad thing to pass it backwards, it depends on where he is on the pitch, if he’s being pressed in his own half etc.

          Anyway, I gave Ramsey a 4. Not sure what the issue is here. I was just trying to illustrate that with 94% pass completion, his poor performance wasn’t necessarily down to what he did on the ball.

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          • I don’t think pass completion stats tells the full story. Ozil and Sanchez might have much lower numbers but they try to speed up play and play incisive passes. It doesn’t account for how he loves to dwell on the ball and unlike Sanchez who can do this sometimes, to then play a very simple pass once he has given the opposition time to get back into position

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    • Stats in all walks of life are overrated / overused.
      They are a useful tool for analysis, that’s all.
      As you say, a high ‘passes completed’stat does not necessarily mean much.
      In football, I think they are useful across a season but I don’t place much store in them game by game.

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  14. Think dropping Gabriel was a pretty awful decision by Wenger. Fatigue maybe a factor for Koscielny but we improved when he came on. We’ve had a couple of clean sheets in a row and I can understand why Mustafi came in but Gabriel has been solid at the back since he’s come in. Can’t help but feel if he started it wouldn’t have been 3-0

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  15. Wise after the event but surely Ramsey starts at 10 ahead of a 19 year old iwobi ( who was knackered after Sunday)
    I mean does Rambo not play no 10 for Wales? Thought he does …..
    Also I thougiht the ox deserved a higher score…… The perfectly timed challenge in the box was a sign that his defensive duties are improving

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  16. Giroud was in his own half in 14 seconds after scoring the goal.
    Please don’t blame him, he got 2 fucking assists and a fucking goal ffs.

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    • No one’s blaming him for the lost points. We’re taking exception to the ridiculous attitude he revealed when he trotted out that inane celebration with 5 minutes to go when we were only drawing a game we really needed to win.

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      • Wow – criticizing Giroud for a gloriously absurd joyous slapstick celebration… and back in place before other team ready to re-start. Seriously? You boring killjoys need to have a good look at yourself. Life is about special moments. Here and then gone. Enjoy what you can and stop whining like pathetic little brats. Thanks ๐Ÿ™‚

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        • Oh, getting a draw away to Bournemouth after being 3-0 down is a ‘special moment’ is it? Well, good to see we’ve dropped the bar so low.

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      • I’d rather focus on the attitude he showed in the post-match interview – that was not a man happy about drawing the game. Wanting to celebrate an equaliser in stoppage time when you were 3-0 down isn’t the same as celebrating a draw against Bournemouth

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  17. Bellerin had a shocker..His usual brilliance hides the fact that he cant cross despite getting in on numerous occasions. Today he was poor at all aspects. The first goal was completely his fault(Ramsey and Iwobi were out of position) But the Fullback can see everything from there, all he had to do was shout Ramsey and Mustafi into position.

    Mustafi’s worst game. Kos was subdued, don’t think he said anything while he was on.
    The whole back four was given fits by championship level attackers.

    Xhaxa, Coq and Ramsey were a disgrace up until Coq went off. With Ramsey deeper and Iwobi at 10 we gained slightly more control in the middle..But Ramsey is in awful form (he did keep going til the end and his energy was helpful in the last 20mins) Xhaxa is excellent with the ball but is somehow worse than Cazorla at covering ground and getting around the pitch especially against nippy or tricky midfielders. He adds steel if he can get there in time. But again, in the last 20 he dictated everything from deep and was constantly feeding Sanchez.

    Perez’s goal was glorious and i wish we had snuck the win to give his cameo the credit it deserves..

    As much as Wenger can be blamed for a multitude of things the players have to take responsibility..
    The fact that it took 70 mins before someone realized we have Giroud on the pitch, whip a decent fucking ball in his direction.

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  18. Excuses, excuses. The title is truly gone. Anyone expecting Chelsea to lose 3 games need to get their heads checked. I said it that our bottling acts against Spuds and manure would bet us in the ass, but the positive fans brigade came after me. We are closer to falling out of the top 4 than winning the league.
    Wenger needs to leave.. tired of this team bottling at the merest hint of pressure.

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    • Spot on. But there’s plenty of cunts here who can’t see it.
      So sick of those who seem to think Wenger is bigger than the club, and untouchable. Well he fucken is not.
      He’s one manager in a small part of our history, we’ve had greatness before him and we’ll have greatness after him. And he delivered greatness over 4-5 years of his reign,
      Like all of us, in whatever we do, he should either leave or be given the boot if he isn’t meeting expectations.
      I have little sympathy for him or the team. After all, they are all earning obscene amounts of money. If they don’t deliver, they should go.

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        • Bullshit.
          We are one of the greatest 4 teams in English history, we have huge resource and money and we have failed to deliver enough success in the past 10 years

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          • Man it is so sad how deluded and brain washed with Wenger so many Arsenal fans seem to be.
            Great, keep him on for another 2 years and another 2 years of mediocrity
            Man have some of us got low standards
            It is pathetic frankly

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        • Anonymarse – Do you think we will win the ‘doing well apart from Chelsea’ trophy? Can’t wait for the open top bus parade, woohoo!

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          • I think its not that easy to do what chelsea are doing, which is why only chelsea are doing it. A little while ago they were playing shit and we were flying. Remember we destroyed them.

            Also it annoys me that so many people whine and bitch every time we lose a match, because wenger hasnt delivered a trophy for the last 10 years while he was trying to compete on a shoestring budget. Keeping us in the top 4 was an achievement and he sacrifficed a lot. I agree now thats not good enough.

            He has assembled a very good squad now and i think given time he will win things, which i think he deserves.

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          • Also you have to look at what were up against. All the best manaagers in the world. Teams that can spend whatever they want. The whole league is strong too.

            We played 2 games in 3 days and we werent at it at the start of the game. Bournemouth are a good side and they punished us. It was an impressive feat to get it back to 3 3. For me that is just what has happened here.

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      • It’s perfectly ok to disagree with people’s point of view, but please don’t refer to other people here as cunts just because of that. Thanks. The same applies to people who don’t share your outlook.

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        • I think it’s far worse the way some pro Wenger fans show disdain towards fans who voice their opinions about the ineffectiveness of Wenger is far worse than using the word ‘cunt’ to describe certain fans. Done people just have it coming

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    • And plenty of fans seem to be almost taking top 4 for granted. I am not. I think we’ve got a serious task to get top 4.

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      • Top four! we will be lucky to finish with a Europa league spot. And if I’m Sanchez or Ozil I can’t see any reason to spend my best years at a club that is swamped in mediocrity

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    • Well said I have being slated for saying same thing wenger will get us in top 4 every year and most fans are happy thats not good enough the money fans pay to see them city chelsea or united fans wouldn’t tolerate just top 4 for 13 years get in a young manager with hunger and he will pass that on to team look how chelsea and Liverpool have improved

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  19. Twilight zone game, half expected William Shatner to come on as a sub and score the winner in the dying moments. Where to begin: Wenger’s selection was baffling as he started Iwobi but not at the no 10 position despite the lad looking so damn good there against CP; Xhaka really has to learn to control his body when defending as he is clumsy/goofy at inopportune times; Bellerin was likely playing injured but he appeared as if he was a victim of an alien takeover; Alexis genuinely seems to dislike some of his teammates and appears especially disgusted with Ramsey; Giroud is one of the few players in the league that can singlehandedly salvage a result while dividing and alienating supporters; and finally for a keeper of such pedigree, Cech seems incapable of actually stopping a penalty kick even though in at least three prior attempts if he would have simply stood still a save was guaranteed. Teetering on the abyss while now most strangely of all, rooting for a Spuds victory to keep hope alive…oh the horror of it all.

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  20. When we get pressed, and don’t have Santi, Coq shouldn’t start.

    Iwobi is ahead of Ramsey at 10, and Lucas should start on the wing before Ramsey.

    Can Ramsey and Xhaka have successful starts together? Let’s find out!

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  21. A really strange game this one. I’ve often said you never really know which “Arsenal” will turn up but this season we’re seeing a lot of both showing up in the same game. You wouldn’t think a team with one of the best keepers in the league, one of the best back lines, TWO defensive midfielders and wingers that track back would be so defensively poor but here we are. Great comeback but we didn’t look like champions tonight. Now we’re here hoping Sp*rs get something from Chelsea to even give us a sliver of hope. We basically could be out of the race tomorrow. Mental

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  22. Praising Ramsey for a 94% passing accuracy is pointless when his passes are riskless, short, sideways and backwards in nature. I would prefer ramsey with 75% passing accuracy and actually contributing a created chance or scoring a goal with some of the opportunities that he has been presented with. He is one of the most frustrating players to watch because we all know he has the talent… he just doesnt know how to get the best out himself. We cannot continue to play him when nothing comes from his presence.

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  23. What a total and utter nightmare. Arsenal will be lucky to take any points from the Manchester clubs and Liverpool and Chelsea are light years ahead. Not to mention that Bayern are thanking the football gods for drawing arsenal. They will crucify us.

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    • Thumbs down galore for you son just for telling it like it is.
      Must be a whole lot of Arsenal propoganda trolls on this site

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  24. What is so frustrating about Giroud for me was on display this match. He spends so much time standing around especially when crosses are about to be served instead of making those runs that Sanchez and Perez do to get in front of people and then throws his arms in the air when he doesn’t get the ball, doesn’t work that hard defensively, tried to do constant one touches instead of receiving and then passing (like he did with Ramsey) or shooting off of the touch (he has a strong shot, but never shoots from outside of 12 yards). It can be very frustrating as a supporter of Arsenal after you see Sanchez work his butt off in that striker role.

    Then of course you see the final 20 minutes he had with two assists and a goal (of course the first assist came when he actually worked hard to get to the near post on a cross) and worked his tail off. Just don’t know he can’t do that more often (work hard).

    I know many will disagree with this. Giroud has a great scoring rate for the minutes/matches he plays, but I do feel he isn’t having the impact he could have (which could be immense) with more concerted effort from the beginning of matches.

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  25. Officially just another Arsene Wenger season. Wake me up when Simeone (or anyone else with tiniest passion/ambition/ideas left in his chamber) takes over.

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    • “Passion”!!!??!!!????

      For f*ck’s sake, give it a rest. Like Wenger, hate Wenger, I don’t care, but if I have to read or listen to one more football watching simpleton, who’s apparently never had an original thought run through his brain in his life, complain about a lack of passion when his team loses, I might just have to pack it in and drive my car off a cliff.

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      • He singled out Simeone so I get what he means by “passion”. Younger Wenger had that though. A manager who sits on bench instead of shouting on his 11 when they badly need some motivation is way off the passionate manager modern football demands. Even most cool headed successes like Guardiola show much more fire by the touch line.

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        • Rashwho let him be mate. Or else I’d be blamed for his well planned suicide. ๐Ÿ˜‚
          PFo Wenger is a man oozing ambition passion and tons of ideas. He just needs some time. Get a holliday or sth. Chill out mate ๐Ÿ˜‚

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  26. Games are decided by the finest margins. Tough night, sloppy. Lets not overreact. 7 pts in 11 days. Relax. Btw- chelsea are flying high, but have squeaked out some pts by fine margins too. An injury to costa or kante or more likely a suspension, and they can go on a skid too.

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    • How dare you express a positive opinion in this comment section sir? It’s not the done thing.

      Next you’ll be pointing out that Bournemouth are actually a good team that beat Liverpool a few weeks ago so a draw is not the end of the world. Tut!

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    • Chelsea have a proactive manager he makes changes and pulls and tugs. Conte holds his players accountable.Wenger just sits on his hands and hopes for the best.

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        • To be fair, that’s unusual. Wenger normally does nothing at all until the 60 or 70 minute mark. I think today’s (slightly) proactive action was largely down to the level of crap piling up and the recognition that this was potentially a season defining game!

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  27. Maybe I’m being too overly optimistic, but I was at the game and for me the come back was fantastic. We gave them a round of applause at the end which I Felecia was deserved by that point.

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  28. So turns out I had a point when I criticised Giroud’s showboating celebrations before the match, eh Blogs? ๐Ÿ˜‰

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  29. Some perspective needed, I believe. It was the 2nd game in 2 days. And I know people will revert saying that these are professional athletes, who are paid mega bucks to perform at the highest level. Yet, one can only imagine the stress and fatigue from giving it all for 90 minutes, knowing that each and every move will be dissected. I get tired just thinking about it.

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  30. To say that focusing on Giroud’s celebration is misplaced is itself misplaced. We’re not morons–no one is suggesting that Giroud’s celebration is the reason we dropped points tonight. What we’re taking exception to is him pulling out an idiotic and self-aggrandizing pose for the cameras with 5 minutes to go when we’re dropping points to a team that (judging by the league table) we should be beating, and when our title challenge is hanging by the merest of threads.

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    • what’s worse: celebrating an unlikely, last minute equalizer or throwing your hands up in the air and scowling every time you don’t get perfect service?

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  31. First goal was Ramseys fault…he should have been helping Bellerin

    Thought that xhaka penalty clumsy but could easily have not been given..it was on the edge of the box.

    Third goal Bellerin got bowled over worse than the penalty. That should have been a penalty.

    The Ramsey selection was bizarre. Why not start Perez or Ox on the Right? He gave no cover whatsoever

    Thought Check could have done better but that was some horrible defense. What’s Mustafi doing so far up the pitch for the second goal?

    Gotta blame the manager for games like this where we play so badly.

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  32. As I said before, Wenger is brilliant buying a team and developing, whether he can get maximum efficiency or indeed intervene appropriately to get the most out of the team is the question mark.

    Agree (albeit with some hindsight) that Ox or Lucas may have been better options on RW particularly as if he said Bellerin was struggling a little and not 100%

    Also not convinced if using Ramsey he is necessarily better next to Granit or Coquelin (who in any case both struggled to impose themselves early on)

    Coquelin has been in and out of fitness of late and could have been partial issue but Granit has got to keep his head a bit. Penalty conceded was needless to say the least and could have been avoided with less testosterone.

    But if we play Ramsey, I think we are better keeping him upfield in the number 10 role where he almost did damage on a number of occasions.

    Thought the Ox did well for crosses and was surprise not to see him start given IF we start GIroud, we should also ensure we make up for any pace issues with another quick wide man for him to play in (or off)

    Lucas put in a good shift and an excellent goal. Glad to see him off the mark. I’m not sure if he should be an automatic starter but he puts in very intelligent runs.

    Particularly interesting to see we went to an almost 4-4-2 with Lucas joining Giroud closer in and around the box. The two seem to be developing some understanding, clearly they are trying to work things out with the shot from GIroud followed by Lucas telling him he was moving into a better position and then the goal for Lucas ably assisted by Giroud’s excellent flick.

    As far as GIroud is concern, I think he got a little carried away with his West End act celebrating the third goal. IN truth, he did get the assists and then the goal/equaliser but he seems to have forgotten that was only the equaliser and we needed one more.:D

    Too little to late and in fact very irritating to say the least that we have to only turn it on last 15-20 minutes.

    Looks like a costly one. Will have to pray and hope tomorrow’s result is a draw. That would give us a sliver of hope.

    BUt rotational issues and frankly we looked disorganised at times. Bellerin had a atypical shocker.

    Thought Cech COULD have done better for the third goal.

    Koscielny was struggling too.Maybe Keeping Gabriel in the squad would have been better. Mustafi had a mixed bag (understandably since he is working back in) but generally dec ent with a great (and thankfully successful) last ditch tackle. He was really up for it though, you could see him screaming at the others and having an apoplectic fit at times and he pushed up even to try and be an auxillary right winger.

    What else is there to say. ๐Ÿ˜›

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  33. Hopeless. We’re done.

    Bellerin and Xhaka can have a generous ‘0’ a-piece. Two pieces of irresponsible and bone-headed play.

    I’ve never once said or thought it, but, and not that anyone should care, I think it’s best if we part ways with Wenger at the end of this season. Maybe we eek out a cup somewhere, well the FA anyway. Wenger deserves to ride off while there’s still some sunset left.

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  34. Bellerin really had a shocker and what was Xhaka thinking about for the second. On the other hand, that was some goal by Lucas. He really should play more often. Hope Wenger doesn’t give him the Joel Campbell treatment,

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    • How on earth are Gnarby and Campbell shown the door? Would have made for better competition between players especially Walcott and the Ox. Also would have given us a much deeper bench, especially with the inevitable onslaught of injuries that seem to hijack every season. Really gutted to see Campbell go. Thought he was starting to come into his own.

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  35. Overall, the team did not come to the party. Cech does not seem to do much any time the defense is beaten as it clearly showed yesterday.

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  36. I don’t think people are slamming Giroud for the celebration as much as the mentality that a late equalizer against Bournemouth is good for a title chasing team. In the grand scheme of things, maybe the result isn’t so bad if Chelsea lose and we win our games.

    Also, understanding that the players are fatigued, Giroud did say he was disappointed about the results but he should have just gone on with the game.

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  37. I was there at the game and coach really irritated me was Eddie Howe and his assistant coach where glued to their technical area the majority of the game yelling and directing their players, while Arsene sat there like a stroppy kid!! Also we have no clear leader on the pitch! The way Hector was nudged off the ball by the smallest footballer ever was embarrassing!!!

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  38. Ramsay is fine if you are aiming for mid table. No desire to get back to cover hector for one of the goals. Our cover defending needs work.Jack should have stayed to fight for a midfield spot. More in Jack’s self interest to leave than stay and fight for a starting spot. Cech is now consistently being beaten at the near post which is unforgivable for a top class keeper of which he was but no longer is. His attempts at saving penalties is poor. Nacho is too slow and has been targeted for it and really struggles against fast wingers. We have our problems, but it is way too early to give up yet. Arsene needs to get tougher and drop some players like Ramsey and sell him in the summer. Keep the rest and look to upgrade where possible. Chelsea will eventually drop points and we need to at least hold them to a draw next month.

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    • Unfortunately Ramsey is not going anywhere. He has convinced wenger that he is a box to box machine that can boss a game or if need be morph into a legitimate number 10 playmaker, pulling all the strings like some grand puppet master. In fact he is neither. He has even convinced wenger that he can be deployed out wide with his blistering pace and unselfish ability to add extra cover for bellerin.

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  39. Czech was poor and although much would like to see Ospina,I would stick with Czech becouse goalkeeping is not just shot stoping and Ospina is very bad at catching crosses and with our CBs missing height that’s key thing.

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  40. They looked tired and unfocused. It’s great that they finally got a draw, but over the years we have seen them get themselves in a pickle and desperately try to claw something back and more often than not fail. It is time for this team to finally deliver, whether that means having more experience on the bench rather than 2 young players. You only have to look at teams like Chelsea that have strength in depth that win titles more often than we do. The world has changed,time we changed with it.

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  41. Ramsey no longer fits within this team, he is not to the standard of the rest of team. For too long, we have forgiven his lapses for some of the goals he’s scored.We have forgiven him for the catalogue of injuries that weren’t his fault. We have watched him work almost to exhaustion as the only light in midfield that could often include Denilson and passing to our then front man of Niklas Bendtner. AW includes him because he considers him a goal threat but he never thinks ahead. Compare his performances to the magic of Cazorla, who controls and teases in that midfield role.

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  42. Ofcourse the damage was done before we even had an attempt on goal but surely you have to see something wrong with celebrating a draw when you have a couple of minutes left if you’re talking about challenging for the title.

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  43. Disgraceful. Granit Xhaka may have been good in the Palace game, but that is because we had all the possession and time on the ball, but as soon as a team harries us and gets under our skin, he (and all of our players) crumble. He has no presence in the midfield and is too slow on the ball. We have lost to Everton and drawn to Bournemouth because both teams have upset our rhythm and got under our skin. They won every 5050, and were filled with energy. Wenger transmits mediocracy into his players. Bournemouth WANTED it more than us, they have a passionate manager who they all have a good relationship with. We have no one in our team who can pick the team up in times like the first half and say ‘Right, we need to match their aggression and intensity.’ Arsenal accept defeat. I dont’ care that we drew, it was 3 points or nothing if we want to follow Chelsea.

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  44. How do you rate Giroud jumping out of the field goal celebration?
    Looks to me he was more interested on winning first team calling than on winning the game.

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  45. After reading all the reports and replies, I can’t believe that you still think we have a God given right to go to Everton, City and Bournemouth and win. The Everton game was a good game to watch. I didn’t think we were that bad. I don’t rate Gabriel, he seems to panic when the ball is passed to him and someone is closing down. We were awful against City in the second half but in the first half, we contained them. I blamed Monreal for the City winner because he just didn’t do enough but where was our defence?
    I was too ill to watch the game last night (still rough now) but I did follow it on Arseblog live and my Son was texting me from Uni. It sounded though (although I couldn’t see it) that we were cream crackered. In the old days a game was played on Christmas Eve and then Boxing day. That was the physical demands of the game were the same for both clubs but now we have that influx of TV revenue, games can be over the whole week which will give at least one team a slight advantage. Even Spuds have 3 days to prepare whilst Chelsea have 4. We are expected to play on a Sunday and again tuesday. Bournemouth have had an extra day.
    I am happy for the draw because it is better than a glorious defeat. If Oliver was reffing the Everton game, would he have given a last minute penalty to us? we will never know. The main thing was that we gained a point where defeat seemed more likely. I don’t know what the future holds. Maybe we will get a new manager maybe not however I will still be supporting the same team come the following years. Maybe we might slip from our lofty perch and become another mediocre team. Maybe we will fight against relegation. How many readers on here knows how that feels hmm or everything clicks into place and we win the league.
    To have a truly world dominating side, you need a good manager but more importantly, you need an owner that has the same ambition. (I am thinking NFL and NE Patriots here. They want to win. What is happening with the Rams)?
    Love them or hate them, you can’t fault Roman’s desire or the Sheikh in Manchester. They want to win. You have to question our board whether we have the same desire. Since Dein has left, we haven’t won the league.

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  46. Since we’re having Injury issues in the CM position was just wondering if Wenger could train Holding in that position just like how Chambers used to do so last season. Holding has got the height he could be a ball winning midfielder i suppose if it works out well enough hahaha

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  47. We were utter shit. This makes it really tough for us now. What annoys me the most is that the penalty was soft. On their 3rd goal Ryan Fraser made contact with Bellerin the same way Xhaka made contact with Fraser! Makes no sense.

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