Chelsea 3-1 Arsenal – player ratings

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Arsenal’s chances of the Premier League title, slim as they were in the first place, were ended by Chelsea today and an abject second half performance that was reminiscent of last season’s horror show at Old Trafford.

The Gunners can have complaints about the clear foul on Hector Bellerin for the opening goal, but nothing else. They just weren’t good enough on the day, going down 3-1.

Here’s how the players rated.

PC
33
2
HB
24
5
SM
20
2.5
LK
6
3
NM
18
4
AOC
15
5
FC
34
2
AI
17
3
11
2.5
TW
14
2
AS
7
2
PC
33
3
HB
24
6
SM
20
3
LK
6
3
NM
18
4
AOC
15
5
FC
34
2
AI
17
3
11
3
TW
14
3
AS
7
3
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33: Petr Cech

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45

Slow to react for the first goal, terrible mistake for the third.

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24: Hector Bellerin

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37

Elbowed straight in the face for the opening goal. It's unbelievable that TV and hacks aren't calling it for what it is. It was a dangerous foul, and in a game like this the first goal usually means so much. It's not excusing the rest of Arsenal's performance, but anyone who doesn't think that was a foul is an idiot.

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20: Shkodran Mustafi

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54

Not very good today. He could be, whisper it, a bit overrated.

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6: Laurent Koscielny

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5

Also not very good, unusually careless on the ball

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18: Nacho Monreal

4
arseblog
4
Readers
14

Not our worst player

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15: Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

5
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12

At least looked up for it, but literally nobody around him was

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34: Francis Coquelin

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Should have taken Hazard down, take a yellow card, instead he left a small man bounce him into a different dimension. Poor in general.

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17: Alex Iwobi

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46

A huge talent but sometimes his inexperience is obvious and today was one of those days

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11: Mesut Özil

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2.5
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28

So disappointing today

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14: Theo Walcott

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2
Readers
11

At Old Trafford earlier in the season he switched off, let his man go and they scored. Said he'd learn from it. Did exactly the same today. More or less anonymous throughout.

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7: Alexis Alexis

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38

Like Ozil should be capable of so much more, but did very little of any consequence.

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5: Gabriel .

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Defensively he did ok, but should have scored before half-time, headed straight at Courtois.

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23: Danny Welbeck

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Looked like he gave a shit when he came on.

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12: Olivier Giroud

6
arseblog
5.5
Readers
29

Got a consolation goal which didn't feel particularly consoling

Vote is now closed

Bonus rating: 0/10 - It's February 4th and our title hopes are over. Not good enough, and something's gotta give. More detailed thoughts tomorrow on arseblog.com

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Cdm995

Bollocks.

chippy's chip

All get 0 in my book

uncle D

It wasn’t that bad!! Just watched the match. Chelsea were the better team! A question to most of you here that think arsenal can win the league without Mr Wenger in charge and most of the squad. Why do think arsenal deserve the league? Because they have not won it in ten years? Or Leicester won it last year? or Conte came in and is winning it as a new coach? I frankly think a lot of arsenal fans are unrealistic! It’s not as bad as a lot is made of this club in the media. No one is perfect not me not any of you. So why not support what you have and make the best of it. I am upset also we did not win but dammit some of you just make it worse with the consistent moaning! Arsenal won’t win the league because they deserve it according to you and Mr Wenger is in your way! Except from Leicester in the last ten years how many teams have won the title. How many managers? Conte is no stranger to handling a big club in the dumps and polishing them, that team won the league 2 seasons back, they are not Leicester! Some of you need to fall back dammm!!! Every time arsenal make one mistake you make so much noise to prove the media bull you read, the media capitalize on this. These are real people with real lives we are talking about here, those players need support and not just when times are good. Just let it be! (queue the song let it be). Let it not be said Arsenal fans are the most entitled of them all. Thanks Blogs for your platform to express being a fan of this great club ” AM STILL PROUD OF ” COYG match on, on to the next one, get well soon.

Theoptimist

Now is really not the time to say “it’s not that bad”.
The point of pouring your heart into supporting a team is that you want that team to do the best they can, and you hope they win.
The day they completely destroy the chance something as precious as the league by playing so poorly against another team is the day to be angry and disappointed.

Of course the sun will come up tomorrow but for fuck’s sake, you’re not helping. And I get the feeing you’re not from around here, trust me, losing against a fierce local rival is painful. Let us be angry.

Heavenly Chapecoense

I like your optimism as it is a more positive feeling than being dejected. You can beat Pangloss at it, I guess. However, I am not with you in seeing our players as victims and people we should always be delicate about. Get me one week of salary of some of them each year and I will be very very happy. It is because fans have excessive passion that they spend unreasonable amount from their budget when it comes to the club. You expect that passion to be expressed negatively when they felt let down. Do you criticize fans when we win a big game and they are elated, praising our players and boasting how better they are than competition players?

CTGooner

It is that bad. We have the talent to win the league. What we don’t have are the balls to go and do it. That starts at the top. Jokingly, Ox recently talked about how Wenger once put on Sinatra in the locker room to get the lads in the mood for the game. The boys had a laugh about him “not getting it.” It’s a funny story isn’t it? a good piece of fluff journo?

Then you realize it says everything about everything we see. See the trees for the forest.

Wenger's coat zipper

Since 2003-2004, Wenger has won only 22% of the games against our direct rivals. That being said, statistically, we had better chances to win against the chavs without him. Piss poor in motivation yet again!

Dan

Defended wenger a lot last season don’t have the strength, will power or even facts to back him up this season,this is not the arsenal I fell in love with. What happened to passion and fight. Things are stale sorry to say the club needs change

Frog

Hey man look on the bright side, we. Eat them 4-3 on aggregate. Hahahaha

Riku

Over season we took 3 points and Chelsea three points. It’s the gsmes at Everton , city , Bournemouth Watford .
Wenger picked the squad and with his number one choice midfield – I believe he thought would be Santi Ramsey xhska ozil Alexis and Walcott . This season . Will half our / Wenger first choice midfielders out . We got bossed in midfield . Think if Chelsea had missed Kante Matic and hazard we may well have won 3-1. Maybe this is too much IF for some . Wenger should know about injure prone players . But Chelsea like Leicester last year , have do so little fucking injuries.
But with Wenger first choice midfield playing Chelsea we did win 3/0 . 4-3 over season . I think it’s the belief that lacks we had only one less effort on target than them 6/5. If . Mustafi header had gone in , if. Is it Wenger fault if Sanchez plays that bad on the big game today

PBM

Two non performances in a row , although against a much better team today than Tuesday. Gotta drop players who don’t perform , then everyone will know the standard expected. That may mean a lot of changes next time out but a message needs to be given. For me the Ox was the only one who can hold his head up

leftfootedprince

1)Cech has’nt been good these last few games,time to give ospina a chance.
2)Sanchez was abysmal today just woeful,worst player on the pitch
3)Time to give Iwobi a rest.I’d start perez for walcott if he was available.
4)What the fuck is wrong with our defence?shambolic……bad………very bad.
5)Is it me or does mustafi make a lot of bad passes,it is worrying for a defender.
6)Sanchez upfront is’nt working maybe bcos he isn’t there most of the time,theo was the lone striker
7)Chambo was half decent today so thats a plus,is coquelin fit for a team who wants to win premiership?
8)This defeat does’nt even hurt maybe I’ve become numb from the past disappointments,What have you done to us wenger?
I don’t believe wenger has got a title in him.We need someone fresh to lead the team next year(for the love of god).

Ned Flanders

Have to disagree on Ox. Apart from one good ball to gabriel and one good desperation recovery, that never should have happened had he been more than fucking traffic cone, Ox looked awful. Side pass. Back pass. Lose ball. Repeat.

For a lot of T2 he was just standing around leaving le coq to create. Thats just no good.

Dan Hunter

For me, Coquelin was the worst player on the pitch. That is THE WORST i have seen him play, ever…and I’m not exaggerating

Third Plebeian

10/10 Me

For having the good sense not to bother watching this foregone conclusion.

Watching Arsenal play against a big team is a waste of time.

Paul

If you can watch the game, then you do watch the game, in my Arsenal addicted world!

NCGunner

Doesn’t watch game. Says he supports the club – still bitches on social media.

I question your dedication as much as the players’.

Third Plebeian

Sorry. I forgot this was the internet!

I totally watched the game, all of it, and let me tell you, it was all too predictable.

Fixed!

Paul

You said you didn’t watch the game and the “internet” has that in writing!???

Third Plebeian

There’s that Oscar Wilde saying about spades, and you, sir, are fit to use one.

loose_cannon

Sanchez, Cech and Monreal scores are generous imo but otherwise, fair. Beaten tactically, physically, mentally

wellarsed

Massive mental problems through-out the entire squad in my opinion. From the walk-out you never got the impression *they* thought they could win the game. Chelsea were jittery at the back but quickly grew in confidence as they realized Arsenal simply weren’t up for it. Our first team seems to be completely destabilized and lacking in all cohesion and conviction – something is very amiss in the dressing room.

tampagunner

Sanchez’s move to Chelsea won’t be official until this summer, but he made his first contribution to his new club today.

But seriously, where was he today?

loose_cannon

There’s a lot of talk about about Ozil and Theo but Sanchez was worse today, arguably his worst ever match for us

Paul

I think most people had had enough with Alexis?

loose_cannon

Nah I’m not saying that, he’s our best player and we need to keep him. But that doesn’t excuse a really poor performance on a personal level

loose_cannon

I’d love to be a fly on the wall in the dressing room. Can’t wait for Cech or Mustafi to come out and tell us how they’re gonna make it up to the fans blah blah

A Different George

The context is a terrible performance, and that colors everything, of course. But, as an independent issue, Monreal was fine today. Ozil was not nearly as bad as people are saying, though he wasn’t very good. Alexis was incredibly bad, even without knowing how good he is at his best. Coquelin looked like he did on his debut against Manchester United a long time ago.

I honestly don’t think any of the explanations really make sense. It felt to me that everyone just stopped after the injury to Bellerin. Even then, as badly as we played, we actually had more genuine scoring opportunities than Chelsea in the first half. A really baffling performance.

High Plains Gooner

Today’s performances should be judged on the poo-meter scale. Poos all around!

Mootilated

would be genuinley interested in listening to an argument for Wenger to stay that does not involve achievements over a decade ago

Arsene's Chequebook

That is exactly what I’m looking for, but I think you’ll get “Look at Utd after Fergie” which totally makes sense as like with Arsene now the club ran through one man and if Arsene was to leave at the end of the season I would be fearful for the future as I don’t think there is a plan in place. The board seem very happy to go along as we are, who cares if the fans hate us, the manager gets the flack and we get paid is how they seem to be.

CechMate

I had commented here a few weeks back on 2 things – 1. How we needed to stop worrying about Ozil & Alexis’ contracts & only concentrate on winning, when they demand such pay and trophies, we demand performance & trophies too. Better if they stay, but wouldn’t matter even if they leave after winning the PL, there would be top signings available for any league winner 2. How we need to plan for Wenger’s succession and I had said that most ppl want Wenger to continue not bcos they think he’s gonna win the CL but bcos they’re scared we’d do a ManU and drop out of top 4, which is not a healthy sign for a top club. I got a fair amount of thumbs down as the team was doing well, hope ppl can see the rationale now at least.

Momozemio

Feel so sad and frustrated after this game. Don’t want to blame Wenger that much, as some big names on the field did not deliver their full potential. “Something’s got to give” reminds me more about the Beasty Boys than Marylin, as it looked like a “Sabotage” today…

SA Gooner

No way but up from here.

g00ner4lyf

We were always going to lose this one let’s be honest. Judge him, by do it at the end of the season. I still think we’ll finish second.

g00ner4lyf

We were always going to lose this one let’s be honest. Judge him, but do it at the end of the season. I still think we’ll finish second.

Tom

Same old arsenal no leaders on the pitch manager should go this summer

Hrishikesh

Hate to say that but Alexis came off as selfish today. Seemed like he didn’t trust his teammates at all. If he and Ozil don’t want to sign the contracts, they can leave. As Henry said, they can’t hold the club ransom. The club was before them, and will continue after them.

garbage

Today?

wellarsed

I think it goes deeper than Özil and Sanchez’s protracted contract wrangles, they whole team lacks cohesion – with a few exceptions (Welbeck, Iwobi, the Ox) they are playing like a relegation bound side who have come to hate each other and can’t wait for the season to end.

David C

was Ozil playing today? Geez, I didn’t notice…

Why do we never change our tactics for other teams? I watched Sp*ds and LiverPOOP switch to a back 3 against Chelsea and they played very well. Imagine we started with a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 with Giroud and Welbeck starting against their back 3.

Godfrey Twatschloch

Temporary lack of form and motivation is not a problem but if it’s a case of not being happy at the club then it’s time to go. Both at their peak would be sorely missed and their abilities would be missed but we’ll be alright. Other players will come and all will be fine. Rather that than a sourpuss in the squad during games. Fuck that any day of the week.

Ned Flanders

Yeah well I wouldnt trust them either.
Why should he? Iwobi? Walcott? Ox? Please. They are all second raters who often lose the ball or make the wrong decision.

That lucas was not even on the bench is baffling. Sorry to say it but Wenger out. its way past time.

uncle D

This is not about being a pro wenger or not. As an arsenal fan! Today I really feel sorry for the lads. Not to kick them when they are down, just let them be, they are people too and am sure they know that they are responsible for this club, they are men. Conte is really makeing Chelsea look more respectable! Not cuntish after all! COYG the world is not over, there are 18 other sides in the league and we are the ones they respect that says something!

greg

Yeah they did their best, they tried

Let’s not question the lack of work rate or willingness to play as a team. Their inability to do the most basic of functions – pass the ball to each other

Let’s have a group hug and hope he signs for 2 more years

Arsensarmy

I disagree most of the arsenal players deserve a kick in the ass. If you can’t get up and give everything for a match against Chelsea you shouldn’t be wearing the shirt. Their were players who were barely even going through the motions. Their is more accountability at my sons club then at arsenal. Screw their fragile egos. A loss to watford on Tuesday followed by even a poor excuse for mediocre just shouldn’t cut it. And what beats all is using the excuse of a lack of maturity. Unbelievable.

Toure Motors

You could take that comment on Walcotts lack of learning and apply it to the majority of arsenals players for the last ten years

btw

But, but, Wenger takes average players and makes them into world beaters, right?

Paul

I would like to see a “who gives the ball away the most” rating, because that is what’s killing us!
If we don’t give the ball to the opposition to start counter attacks, then none of the defensive failures come in to it!

sibu88

Alexis was pitiful and the problem is that he knows he won’t be subbed.
Theo is never going to change.

What is really sad is that I will renew my stupid mill stone of a season ticket !

Anthony

So poor today in almost every department it’s worrying.

The team that played in the FA Cup, albeit against a weakened Southampton showed more togetherness, more concentration and overall a much better performance.

Chelsea have become our bogey team, and what’s worse is they didn’t play fantastically to beat us either.

Coquelin and Koscielny had opportunity to prevent the second goal, both are very experienced players in this team and know Hazard well. Neither did a single thing about him waltzing through for an easy finish.

Cech, for me, has to be dropped. He’s not been great this season, and it seems like his position in the team for league matches in unchallenged. The pass to Fabregas for their 3rd was woeful. As much as I hate that Fabregas is a Chelsea player (should never have left us for Barca, but different discussion) at least he had the good grace not to celebrate so credit to him. Ospina must start in place of him.

And then comes our attacking play, we had a lot of possession today – uncharacteristic for a visit to the bridge – but we almost did nothing of note with it, and not to mention not taking the opportunities that did arise. Gabriel needs to draw us level just before the break and more from our so-called star players in Ozil and Sanchez who basically did nothing all game.

Disappointed that their first goal was allowed to stand, clearly a foul on Bellerin, could argue that changed the game, but I’m not convinced of that argument given how poor we were overall and the nature of the second and third goals.

Giroud scoring mattered very little, title is definitely out of reach, perhaps in order for this team to realise its potential it needs a year out of European football.

For the inevitable ‘Wenger Outers’, is it Wengers fault that their first goal is a foul, their second no one challenges Hazard or that the 3rd is a pass to an opposition player while being in no-mans land?

Dan Hunter

I actually think we created more than enough chances to win the game. The killer was not setting up tightly at the back. We should have set up the way we set up against Man City a couple seasons ago when we won 2-0.

We don’t seem to use possession too well at the moment, so why not allow the opposition possession and hit them on the counter? It should surely work against any team. The premier league seems to have a simple formula to win. Be tight at the back. Counter attack with pace while leaving no gaps. Mourinho did it with Chelsea. Leicester last year. Now Chelsea again.

Anthony

Our problem is we’re not disciplined enough to be tight at the back, afford teams with having the ball, and work effectively on the counter.

I agree that we created enough to win the game. But we are just not very good in possession at the moment – we can keep the ball, but it’s almost like the players don’t know what to do with it in the final third.

Do feel that we missed Bellerin going forward yesterday – he’s just so much more dynamic than Gabriel who really isn’t a forward thinking player.

As I said in my earlier comment Chelsea weren’t fantastic, and the score line flatters them somewhat as we did much of the damage to ourselves, 2 of their goals were preventable, 1 shouldn’t have been allowed to stand.

Jack4343

Watching Hill City shock Liverpool and I’m left wishing our team had their heart and team resolve. Yep, the heart and resolve of a team in 18th place in the table. We have the talent…and not much else.

dr Strange

Mustafi a bit overrated? Sorry but, and I sand this when we signed him, he is not good enough for Arsenal and him and Kosh are to similar except that Kosh is world class. I would rather have Mert or someone with the same attributes to partner Kosh.

Deano

He was piss poor today, no doubt, but I feel he has some good fight in him and reckon he’ll turn out to be a good signing. Don’t forget Kos wasn’t a boss in his first season.

Paul

Rob Holding for me – if you are good enough you are old enough.

PBM

Let’s hold everyone to the same standard. Kos didn’t look world class today. Twice he had a chance to prevent Hazards goal, and he didnt do it…And throughout our senior players were all beaten by their opposite numbers…Cech, Kos, Ozil, Sanchez, Walcott, Coq all second best

Dan D

Kos is a decent player for me but not a championship winning CB. Too many errors, too many off days.

Dan Hunter

I would say Kosc is a little overrated too. He makes many mistakes. And he’s not a leader.

Deano

The only one I feel you’re being harsh on is the Ox. Other than that bang on. Agree something has to change and I only started waning on Le prof towards the end of last season, but this has to be his last season.

the american

Legend has it mesut ozil actually started this game. no one really knows though, since he hasn’t been seen since

Thierry Bergkamp

You can’t mention Ozil and exclude Sanchez

Deano

Most do though, and on that Sanchez looks the most likely to leave at the end of the season. Sadly!

wellarsed

Judging by today’s performance (& Tuesday’s) it looks as if – mentally at least – he’s left already!

Gary Baldy

To be honest, I thought Özil ran about a bit in the first half only to not get the ball into where he ran and probably thought ‘ Fuck it ‘ in the second half.

He does a lot of those unused runs in a game I sometimes think he might as well be a cross-country runner for all the times our players see him or use him. A little exaggeration, I grant you but I think he just got to the point where he could see the point in wasting his time anymore.

PFo

Wow, very witty.

Billy no mates

Wasn’t a foul in my opinion, wish our players would cunt in headers like that. Wish we had a coherent system too. Ozil on the f**king left, my god.

greg

Don’t forget iwobi in the middle

What dies gibbs have to do to get a chance again

Gary Baldy

Lee Dixon thought it was okay as well, I have to say you see them given and I thought it was reckless, and therefore a foul.

If Giroud had he been on at the time, or whoever had delivered such a tolchock to a Chelsea gulliver at the other end for the first goal nice and early in the game, I suspect the goal would have been disallowed.

loose_cannon

The 4-3-3 started well, Iwobi and Ox matching Kante and Matic in the middle. But the problem was out-wide, Monreal and Ozil couldn’t handle Moses and ultimately that’s where the goal cam from. Coqulein also struggled to distribute the ball as the lone DM. So we switched back to Ozil at 10, which let Kante and Matic dominate the middle of the park

Des Lynam

That was as bad as it gets. No leadership, no guts, no bottle and worst of all…No fucking game plan.
Arsene, I love you dearly old chap, you are the epitome of class and dignity in a game full of cunts, but the time has come. I’d rather lose fighting than watch our talented squad produce turgid, timid performances like that. Quite simply, enough is enough.
Tactically we looked as though our plans had been devised by Ozzy Osborne on a Sunday morning in the fuggy haze of coming down off a two month bender.

Thierry Bergkamp

Cech is finished, bring back Szcs next season.
Couldn’t do any more harm to start Holding.
Perez and Welbeck need to start games.
Big changes are needed.
Oh a new manager, too.

BidOnLard

Yup, not the crazy guy with the funny hat anymore, he’s become kinda settled. We need back the keeper with unpronounceable name to bring some flare in the defence.
And yeah, some rotation might do some good to a season already fallen to damage control – some players appear to have fallen asleep in their bubbles.

Gestapo Librarian

10/10: Not getting up at 5am to watch this garbage.

Momozemio

Feel so sad and frustrated after this game. Don’t want to blame Wenger that much, as some big names on the field did not deliver their full potential. “Something’s got to give” reminds me more about the Beasty Boys than Marylin, as it looked like a “Sabotage” today…

santori

Cech – Cech Mate …not difficult to write the headlines. Sealed our fate with a wonderous assist to our ex player Fabregas. 9

Bellerin – Taken out by the hard men of Chelsea 9.

Mustafi – I thought he did well today frankly. Did not put a foot wrong, went up for the attack. 8

Koscielny – Back to his first season best getting bullied by Costa and providing the invisible shield in front of Cech so Hazard can shoot at goal. 7.

Monreal – Put in a number of crosses from the right which sadly most were caught ball watching or did not have sense enough to gamble into the 6 yard box. 8

Ox- Midifeld was always going to be a problem but you can’t fault the Ox in an inexperienced partnership. Still you could see the issues coming with our thinning options here. He tried his best in an unfamiliar role against a team that was not Soton second string. 8

Coquelin – He Flammed it up. But since he isn’t Flamini, he must have played brilliantly. Dare I mention he conceded 13 goals in 7 matches last season next to Ramsey which cost us the title. No Santi or Granit and he looks lost bouncing off small players when he could have stood ground shunted them wide. 6

Ozil – I mentioned he needed to have a massive game for us today in front of our midfield duo. They had the stronger and more established partnerships, Ozil needed to play beyond just creative. He did not. 7

Walcott – Was he on? 6

Iwobi – I felt we would have benefited from a bit more experience today and with the likes of Lucas looking up to tempo and creative, perhaps Iwobi could have been re-positioned. in place of Ozil or to bench.7

Alexis – All those calling for him to start up front. Why? He seems to like to lose the ball so Chelsea can counter, over elaborated at times and passing was atrocious at others. 6

Giroud – He scored a goal. But he should be plan B at best because he doesn’t score. 4

Welbeck – Ran around a bit. gave a toss. 4

Wenger – May as well have Steve Bould managing because he was responsible for victories but not defeats. Never mind the subs seem to make sense, should have ensured we had at least one more experience asset in midfield at start of season. 9

A Bridge too far.

Tim

Did you watch the same game mate?

Gary Baldy

Looks like Blogs voted for me on all but Gabriel’s rating, which for the record he got a 6 from me for sheer effort even if he did miss a header, at least he got into a position to have a go.

That said, and again a small point given the timing of it, but I have long been concerned about Cech’s passing and kicking in open play from the pass backs or clearances. Od all the times for it to properly bite him on the arse, it has to be scooping it straight to Fabregas, fair play to our erstwhile midfielder not celebrating, but it was coming. Still, having got one back, could a two goal deficit been psychlogically better to try and get a point rather than three ?

Am I rambling ? Yes. But three proper questions. Why start Walcott over Welbeck or Perez, given how hot and cold he is and how he disappears in games ?
What does Perez have to do to get on the bench or a start ? That could quickly become one of those questions, if it isn’t already.
A third point, again, why so late on the changes ? Walcott could/should have been hooked at half-time for Welbeck.

Clock-End Mike

Surprised not to see a wry comment about the ex-Chelsea star goalkeeper, playing for the Arsenal, giving the ball to the ex-Arsenal star midfielder & captain, playing for Chelsea. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not implying anything except the irony of the mistake.

Clock-End Mike

By the way, I heard (or maybe read, though I think it was on the Arsenal TV pre-match studiop show) that Lucas was injured or had a niggle or something, which was the reason he was not in the line-up. Not ignored.
Just saying, since everyone else seems to be asking where he was.

Gary Baldy

I am sure people will be making the wry observation, if not here, I am sure we don’t want to even acknowledge it right now.

As for Perez being injured it would make sense but iwasn’t mentioned on the NBC coverage, unless I missed it in the build-up. I am sure it wasn’t mention in the commentary. I think I even remember him hobbling a bit at the end of the Watford match when he got a bit of a heavy tackle, last week.

Still, I can’t say I’d put much money on him starting or given enough time to make a difference, at the moment !

bus wanker

Honestly, we are being managed by a ghost.
been watching every arsenal game last 12-13 years i reckon. can not recall that ive seen a change of formation pre-game, no matter how poor we perform. lex chelski earlier this season. “star”/favourite-players get away with murder while other players wont be given a change no matter how well they perform. wenger neves takes any responsibility when we play so, so bad, but always find other factors to blame. we could be down 0-7 halftime against sutton and he would still wait to 65th minute for the first substitution.

the decision-making by our players also needs to be adressed, look at hazards goal, coquelin gives it away – his mistake – so he’s determined to go in for the tackle even though he should have been more calm, was so obvious when it happend, they play past him and voila. same goes for xhakas latest red card, want to make up for a mistake and makes such a dumb decision. that part of the game costs us so much. same at the other end of the pitch, its what seperates a decent player from a great one. dont really mean to take out my frustration on individual players or the players at all though, they cant really do much about their limitations but its a frustrating day being a fan of this club

Theo's Wall-cot

Thought Ox showed some nice touches but the rest of the team had an absolute mare. Also thought Chelsea in general got away with a lot of cynical team fouling

kaius

Less than a week ago when Wenger shrugged off the transfer window talk by rolling out his usual “best squad since the Invincibles” talk, I said it was a huge strategic error. This is the same squad as last season, with new boys Lucas benched, Xhaka suspended and Mustafi finding it tough at the business end of the season. Most damning of all, this result is not a surprise to anyone.

Domenik

So, what constitutes success this season, then? I’d like to think it’s finishing in the top four, winning the FA Cup, and getting past the Round of 16 in the Champions League. It’d be an improvement from last season.

Uba

Ozil can fack off in the summer. A coward if i have ever seen one.

Fergus

I absolutely love Wenger and always have. I’ve stood up for him when the Wenger out brigade gets going. Unfortunately, I now feel they may have have been right, though I say it with much reluctance. Just seen us be completely outplayed too many times. One thing I always loved Arsene for is that he allowed his players to express themselves and sadly I think that football has become too tactical and robotic now. Look at the first 15 mins. Today… Chelsea just sat back all their players as if they were West Bromwich against Barca. Not attractive atall but they won in the end. I grudgingly find myself believing that if we are to win the league again then we have to begin playing like room ots and not as a team of entertainers and this makes me sad and makes me question whether I will want to still watch football.

Alex

It could be seen as daring to criticise Sanchez without ALSO criticising Özil… Özil made the most passes, the most created chances, had 90% pass accuracy. I don’t say he was terrific, but it’s time to clearly say Özil has been much better than Sanchez lately.

Wolf

Completely agree. Invisible? Far from it. Depressing to see the amount of times Özil had the ball in an attacking position, ready to play one of his killer passes, and nobody, NOBODY made any kind of useful run ahead of him. What is he to do? Dribble past 6 defenders and smash it in by himself? Sadly that only happens in Roy of the Rovers…

Matt P

Pass accuracy is a bullshit stat. The vast majority of Ozil’s passes were just little back and forth passes. Almost none of his passes were incisive. The guy is just going through the motions. What people seem to forget is he and the others are paid obscene amounts of money for this crap

Karuci

We aren’t going to win the league this season because of our issues in midfield, not because of our mentality. Wenger could not figure out his midfield from day one. Couple that with the constant injuries and suspensions, and it was always going to hinder us. What if a fully fit and in form Cazorla was playing alongside Xhaka?

Southpaw74

As you say, what if, we are having injuries to our best players year after year,, don’t remember having so many when we last one the league,, either lads were tougher back then or somethings really wrong with our medical staff

catbiscuitsnom

On the plus side, it’s performances like this that make me indifferent to Ozil and Sanchez leaving.

Michael Jackson

Alexis the worst player on the pitch for the second game in a row, how many moves break down because of him in general? Why does he not pass at the right time or at all instead twisting and turning like a beyblade. He has been watching Ramsey too much obviously?
I would like to see Iwobi get a run at No.10 with maybe Ox in there aswell, silly as it sounds Ozil and Alexis should maybe be dropped… and right now if they left i couldnt care less. At least play people that care.

Des

Off with there heads, off to the guillotine with Mr clueless wenger first in the queue I say.

Sid

Lack of management management really showed with the second goal. It is clear to see that Coq had been told not to tackle in them situations as a result of xhakas two red cards

Sid

*man management*

Paul

Alexis needs stop giving the ball away thus breaking down our attacks.
Watch the Watford first half and he stopped five of our attacks!
You saw he tonight doing the same.
Ozil just needs some players to pass to.
The Ox is someone that should take credit from the last two games imo.

Paul

Sorry about the typing 🙁

Zelig

I meant to give thumbs up to your comment not thumbs down.

MarteXhaka

Kos had a Johan Djourou moment for Hazard’s goal. Mustafi too. That 2nd goal was from the same script as Watford’s second in midweek – player cutting through our defence like knife through butter. Such a pain to watch. And I know it could be just me but isn’t it time Cech got dropped for Ospina!? He may be one of the “fan/Wenger favourites but to be sincere his performances in the last couple of games have been utterly disgusting. I feel so sick in the gut right now. Anyway it could be worse. I could be a Liverpool fan.

Olivije

I am sick of that hate on Ozil. With Monreal he was our best player on the pitch. He started as a forward and ended with being a deep lying playmaker. He was trying but it is not his fault we were so static. Sanchez especially. I listen fans who says Fabregas was way better than Ozil he drove the team forward unlikr Ozil. I agree that Cesc is a special player but I really don’t remember Arsenal being ever that static in his time at Arsenal. Gabriel better rating than Ozil?

Also Cech the scapegoat again. How he was slow for the first goal? And for the third it was more Gabriel’s fault. There were few bad passes to Cech today and also through whole season. Surely one will go wrong like today.

You can’t get a clearer faul than that on Bellerin. Henry really said it was clean goal? I have lost respect for him since in the last year since he rather had become a pundit. If that faul was on Messi football world would call for 10 match ban and prison.

And last. That’s how media and FA work:
1. Media destabilaze our squad with Ozil and Sanchez rumors of not wanting to sign a contract.
3. Xhaka red should be overturned but it wasn’t.
4. 4 match ban for Wenger which it shouldn’t be.
5. Bad decision against us on derby – today on Bellerin (pshihological consequences)

I disagree we are mentaly that weak. Actually we are quite strong. We could be worse with FA treating us like puppets. We came back so many times from poor decisions but they come games when you just become tired of that. Today it was not just the goal. It was like Atkinson brang cards just for us. They made so many fauls which should be a yellow or he didn’t even whistle at all. In our case even a small touch was faul.

Still as bad as it sounds for some fans I think those ratings should be a higher. We were not that awful. With a little luck like Chelsea had we could have had a very different result. We had some clear cut chances we should have score.

Herewegoagain

What time was it on your planet? We were second best in every aspect of the game. It’s not down to the FA that we couldn’t pass, tackle or shoot. Watch Middlesbrough at Spuds tonight for a lesson in tactics, tackling and commitment even if Spuds get late winner as usual.

Chelski were so far on top that they could take off their best player. Maybe if Cech hadn’t sealed the game and we got our goal earlier, the end might have been more interesting but even an ill deserve draw would not have saved our title challenge.

Chris66

I am sorry Mate but we have enough “alternative facts” for one week. Czech was dreadful. Ozil essentially gave up and we were totally over run. We had some chances yes, but they had so many breaks where the last man saved our bacon. If Chelsea had been more clinical this could have been another 6,7 or 8 again.

We all have our opinions about what is wrong, but you aren’t going to gain much credibility trying to claim that we were unlucky again. Too many years, too many games of the same old story. You might be able to get away with not being great in the big games away, if you destroy everyone else. But you aren’t going to get away with bottling the big games and losing 2 or 3 “easy” games each year because you think you just have to turn up.

Over the last 13 years we have changed all the players but the problems remain the same. There really is only one conclusion to reach as disloyal as it might make some of us feel.

PFo

On what basis do you say Ozil “essentially gave up”, and why is it always Ozil who’s apparently singled out as giving up, rather than any of his teammates?? I don’t get this. In the Man City game, maybe somewhat (though, again, he was hardly the chief reason we lost that game; our problems started further back). But today? Not a chance. The team was completely dispirited and therefore disjointed after the second goal (this is, presumably, the fault of the manager who trains them to play as a team), and were facing a very good, very well drilled defensive team who could sit deep and play on the counter after their first goal. None of this involved Ozil giving up. Ozil did what he could, albeit not having a great game, but then no one else did either.

Matt P

OK let’s apply some logic, shall we?
The best paid players should be the best players? You with me?
Sanchez is one of our best paid players, and he’s been our best player over the season.
Ozil is up there with him in terms of benefits, but isn’t justifying his wage. I’d put him middle of the pack in terms of performance this season. There’s a big mismatch between what he earns and what he delivers.
The issue is not just this game. I would have given him a 6 rating or better in perhaps 30-40 % of the games.
Something is wrong with him. Is he ill? He looked really really pale and listless today, and that’s not the first time.
Obviously, it is harsh to just beat up on Ozil. There’ a much wider issue with this squad and manager. Obviously the whole system needs an overhaul.
I suspect Ozil needs a much much better canvas to deliver on his talents.

GunnerDareMacedonia

Ok, I’m not a manager but I was thinking whole week, giroud was afoul against watford he was subbed on half time, conte knew that giroud was poor and knew that he will not start against chelase and knew that because of the first game at emirates we will start alexis, so i was thinking as a manager why don’t you surprise them and start welbeck but not as a winger start him as a striker with alexis on the left it would have disrupt their game plan especially because they knew that alexis will start up front and were preparing for that even they were preparing for giroud coming on and moving alexis on the left but they would never ever prepare for welbeck up front and expecting that. welbeck was brilliant against soton trough the middle making runs, and i always remember wlebeck at man.utd playing against chelsea he always did really good.

And if doesn’t work you can sub him at 60 min for giroud or you can switched alexis with welbz position at half time or during the game. But I’m sure it would take them by surprise especially after the game he had against soton he would be really motivated.

But hey i’m not the manager.

Gary Baldy

We could have started with the Spanish Inquistion up front and it still wouldn’t have changed anything, and as we all know, NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition.

John

Ozil is constantly poor in the tough away games. I can’t think of a single away match against Liverpool, Utd, City, Spurs or Chelsea where he has made an impact. To win the league we need, apart from many other changes, a player in his position that makes a difference in these games. Ozil is clearly not that player. He’s not the main reason we keep failing but I for one wouldn’t be concerened if he moves on if the manager leaves.

pharquhar

Agreed. When you need the players to get stuck in a bit, he floats around like a fairy’s fart.

George

Thing is, Ozil needs the ball. Bit pointless to have him constantly drop deep to get it, when we want him in the advanced position(s) to orchestrate play. Also, he’s best when players are making runs, but who was really doing that today? Sanchez fell into his old, bad, habits and kept dropping back, going out wide, running sideways, you name it, while Theo, well, Theo was a non-entity.

Iwobi was the closest Ozil had to a partner in crime, but with the central midfield, in particular, not providing a solid base of distribution, Ozil (and Iwobi) were always fighting a losing battle. As I said, get Theo to make some runs and make Sanchez stay up and central and make some runs and things could have been better.

So, yeah, if we can’t do those (extremely basic) things, then Ozil is going to struggle to do what he does best, create space for himself and others, pull the strings, and provide a constant outlet in and around the box.

Arsene Wenger's Secret Lovechild

So disappointed with Sanchez. I know, I know- he’s a great player and we’re better with him in the team. But his passing is shambolic at times. Today he was trying to switch play when the simple pass was the only pass he could rationally make. His decision making is so frustrating- I get sick of watching him lose the ball. It’s not the first time I’ve been annoyed with his carelessness on the ball.

On a positive note, the Ox is really making a case for claiming that midfield role. We were all well-aware of our lack of a midfield for this game and he didn’t look out of his depth- he stepped up.

Chelsea aren’t a great team; our errors were horrendous and we deserved the spanking we got. Second goal was embarrassing. Hazard’s good and all that, but when you defend like that (Coquelin / Koscielny) you can’t expect to win a football match.

Dmitri

In my opinion Cech has been very poor of late. He has been at fault or could have done better with the last 5 goals we have conceded in the league in the last two games. He should be dropped to let him get his head right…

sir warchest

what was that game early in season where theo was racing around the pitch, tracking back, “new theo”. where is that guy?

Paul

Let’s win the fucking Champions League! Come on! Leicester won the Prem last year ffs! We can do this!
You never know with these players…:-)
Positivity is good, come on!

Matt

Keep on dreaming like you probably have in the last decade

Paul

There’s nothing wrong in dreaming. Wenger is here for the rest of the season. Why not dare to dream of the Champions League title when we all need a cheer up?
What else have we got??
Onwards and upwards for the rest of the season. COYG.

Alexstratz

Honestly, even if it is a pipe dream, I could really use some Champions League right now. At least we won’t have to watch anymore of the same incompetent refs, the same rainy stadiums, the same fouling tactics with no cards, the same Arsenal that cannot perform consistently. At worst we only have to suffer 2 matches.

Paul

It’s on mate, you heard it here first! 🙂

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