Video: “If Chelsea are offering £35 million for Ox, we should sell”

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Earlier today reports emerged that Arsenal are in talks with Chelsea over the transfer of Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.

The England international has turned down a couple of contract offers, but seems unwilling to commit to a new deal.

With a possible £35m on the table from Chelsea, Arsenal could well be tempted to sell.

James thinks we should, if that money is on offer, and he looks at the situation as a whole.

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sam

No

Loose_Cannon

This, thank you. We’d be mental to sell a top prospect to a big rival. Alex sign da ting!

kaius

On no account should we consider making Chelsea stronger after they lost Matic to Utd. if we have to, give him the “vacant” no.10 shirt (like Monaco just did with Mbappe).

We need all hands on deck to go for the title this season.

Mein Bergkampf

I’m not sure the RVP/Sanchez rule of thumb of not selling to a rival should necessarily be applied to this one. He’s a player who doesn’t fit into our team, no matter where we shoehorn him in. He isn’t a wing back, just as Flamini wasn’t a left back. It works for a while but he has little or no defensive qualities and I’d much sooner have a specialist as cover. Does he strengthen Chelsea from what we know about the player? Maybe a little more depth to their squad but he’s not getting anywhere near Hazard or Kante. If they want to sign an unproven and inconsistent wing back as cover and that money allows us to get Seri or put in a real offer of intent for Lemar, let’s seriously consider it.

Double98

I think he’s been devastating in the right wing back position – arguably more so than Hector since we went to three at the back.
His end product has improved exponentially and the position seems to free him up to use the pace and athleticism that he has.
If he could be convinced of the position I would almost sign him up and move bellerin up the pitch to compete with Walcott, Welbeck, as a right sided forward. That’s got to be his position long term.
failing Ox giving up his centre mid dreams I say we take Chelsea’s 35 mill

Mein Bergkampf

I’d love to share your optimism but I just feel the mistakes are coming. You don’t play attacking football all your career and then effortlessly glide into a role which demands a high level of defensive competency. As previously mentioned, full backs/wing backs are becoming one of the most important positions in modern football. We’ve all seen how crippling it can be playing footballers there who don’t get it. Jenko and Chambers both spring to mind as examples of how bad it can go if positioning and expertise are not quite 100%. It’s a specialist position for a well drilled player, not a stop gap for an attacking midfielder.

Reality check

Double98
There is a reason he is not signing a contract, he doesn’t see himself as a wingback or where ever he is deployed by wenger, and he’s certainly not a prospect anymore as someone stated above. Let me put it this way, this guy hasn’t been able to nail down a position over Theo over 5 years – no other competition, exactly the position he use to play when we bought him. With his attributes, he could’ve been a Hazard instead he lurking very close to Gervinho territory..

The Romford Pelé

Bellerin started life as a forward/winger and has been progressively moved backwards to his current role

John Lukic

Gibbs too

kaius

We can afford to sign Lemar or Seri. We may need to get some of Debuchy, Coquelin, Gibbs, Gabriel, Jenkinson and Wilshere’s salary off the wage bill if need be, but we don’t need to sacrifice Oxlade-Chamberlain to do that.

In the first game he kept Riyad Mahrez pretty quiet by tracking back responsibly and forcing Mahrez to defend against him. When we went back to 4-4-2 late on, he was back on the right hand side and we looked much better balanced. If Giroud has a place in the squad despite not being a starter, then so does Ox.

In 12 months time with a title or a Champions League place under our belts, anyone who wants to leave should be encouraged to do so. But this season there’s too much at stake.

Rook

No fan wants to loose him but it’s obvious he wants to go. 35mil is not a bad business if you ask me.

Stuck on repeat...

Don’t get or see your “it’s obvious that he wants to go”. Sure he’s holding out for a better deal at a time where so is almost every other player of ours…& not sure anyone can blame him for that. If/when he signs it will be for 4 or 5 years to.

There’s too many contract issues going on within the club right now. That’s why for someone like Perez (who we don’t want / need / won’t play), just take the damn money!!! That way you’ll free up time (& money) to concentrate on players that actually have a future with the club.

Pure madness to even think about selling the Ox. If we do it will just again be about the money…& I thought we’d moved past that even if it is just for 1 season.

Fireman Sam

Well said. We should not be a “selling club”. Of has talent, he stays.

Sammy Dubzz

U r mad I think, selling him will be a very bad idea how can u think if of selling one of ur best prospects approaching his prime. Wat did Wenger said about him last week

Davidace

I quite agree with you . its really maddening that some fans get this way. Alex chambo for me is a better dribbler than Sanchez. He takes on defenders with delight and he puts in the crosses too. I wudnt lose him for that cheap a price 35mil?? What are you all smoking

Rook

Mein Bergkampf that’s a good point I’m with you on this.

PFo

He’s considerably better than Moses, so he would strengthen their first 11. This would be mental of us.

Deano

And there lies the problem Loose Cannon. He has no intention of signing da ting.

Could be an unpopular thought but I’d let him go. I don’t think he damages us as much as players in the past have. I don’t think he is as good as some of them.

Potential blah blah blah, too many of them around already. Doesn’t want to play in the only position he has thrived in where he is clearly still second choice behind Bellerin in Wenger’s eye.

Let’s not forget his injury record too. If we put the cash and cash from from Woj deal and potentially Lucas, and Jack deal into two quality signings we won’t be grumbling for to long.

Loose_Cannon

For me he is unquestionably our best rwb and otherwise he can fill in at lwb, right and left wing and cm. The manager has recently said he has a great future and both agree he’ll make a good CM. So yeah, it would be a big loss for us and very good signing for Chelsea

Deano

For me he has had a good three month spell and a quality performance against Milan. If Arsene really wanted him he would accommodate him, and he would be signing the contract.

CLEgooner

Top prospect? Maybe 3 years ago. Hes our second choice wingback at this point.

Northerngooner

I agree with you, under no circumstances should the ox be sold, he’s one of the few young talents who might yet prove his worth.

it’s been said before, but what a total shambles the contract situation is at Arsenal. Sorting this out will cost the club a fortune, one way or another.

atom

Just to put it into perspective – the Ox is basically the same age Ozil came to us as a borderline worldclass player after spending several years starting at Madrid and starring for the German national team – and only one year younger than Sanchez came to us after starting for Barcelona. We are talking about a 24 year old squad player – whether or not people on this blog think he should start over Bellerin is irrelevant – Wenger clearly doesn’t has he starts Bellerin over the Ox whenever he’s fit. At what point do people recognize that a lot of these players on Arsenal’s books like the Ox are no longer young prospects.

baz00r

You’re right. It frustrates me to hear this “young prospect” shit thrown about, the guy turns 24 tomorrow ffs! “Young prospects” aren’t 24, they’re 18,19,20. Time to move on.

PFo

False. When we switched to a back three he started ahead of Hector in every game until he got injured. And AW hasn’t benched him for Hector in a single competitive game–rather he’s played Ox on the left, which could just be that he thinks Ox would play better on the left than Hector.

Atom

By the same token the Ox primarily was starting after we switched to a back 3 precisely b/c Bellerin was injured and slow to recover from that. How you or I view the pecking order is irrelevant – it’s only Wenger that matters and with the central backs coming back we’ll know soon enough who is first choice. It’s really hard to see Wenger benching Kolosniac after the way he’s been playing.

cagooner

Completely agree. Absolutely drunk and disorderly contract management. What the fuck does Gazidis do?

John Lukic

He smokes crack and listens to Ed Sheeran.

Report

If Chelsea are offering £… million for Gibbs_ Gabriel_ Elneny_ Jenkinson_ coquelin_ Debuchy, we should sell???YES
…… …… ….. ……

we need to Seri _ Lemar _ Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain_ Lacazette _ sanchez and top class players.
Liverpool join Arsenal in race for Jean Michael Seri…

rogerbij

If Chelsea Are Offering £35 Million For Ox, We Should Sell… IF it’s reinvested this summer in a top addition such as Lemar.

Reginald

Lemar deal is dead already as Arsenal have been severally pushed back by Monaco. Blame Arsenal for not being decisive though. What can 35m buy one in the current market when Mahrez or Siggurdson are rated 50m? I think every attempt should be made to extend him

kaius

No, the Lemar thing is not about Arsenal being indecisive.

Monaco said at the beginning of the summer they would sell 3-4 players but wanted to keep Mbappe, Fabinho, and Lemar. So far, that’s exactly what they’ve done.

cagooner

Yeah – let’s sell Ox and rely on Jenks or Debuchy as our backup to Hector. Sarcasm. And don’t say we can just go sign a replacement – shit-for-brains Walker cost $50M.

Rochester

I agree, I’d hate to see him go. But if it has to happen, 35 million is a joke. It’s fucking Chelsea… When Walker goes for $50, Christ, I must be worth at least 10 and I only have one leg.

Moses

No, no, no.
a) Not to Chelsea
b) Personally I think we should give him a shot at RWB, I think he is more effective than Bellerin, rather than a back four where I think it is the other way around. A RWB is going to be doing more than overlapping runs, they are going to be high up the pitch a lot of the time, and Ox is far better at getting past players and actually at crossing.

crazy gunner

The problem with the OX is that his hamstring is not as good as Bellerin you catch my drift…pls do not let conte know 😉

You can not be an effective wing back without solid hamstrings…OX won’t last 3months as a wing back…

Diarra

He needs to show that he can perform for a whole season at RWB to justify the salary he is requesting. Though the main problem is not his ability it is his ridiculous wage demands

Javis

But he doesn’t want to play there..that’s the crux of it!

midgunner

No chance. Ox is much better than Bellerin at RWB.

Also there’s no way I’d trust the club to reinvest the money.

And when Bellerin gets tired/injured who plays RWB?

caligunner

Just maybe Ox doesn’t want to be a wingback? He doesn’t want to waste another season playing that position. He wants to play in the center. Even if Chelsea buys him and plays him on the wings that will be there issue not Arsenals. If he doesn’t want to sign a new contract because he wants to play in the center we will have to either sell or realize we will lose him at the end of the season.

Terry Henry

I think Chelski want him as a apgrade on Moses tbh

Terry Henry

Ox is not a much better defender than hector. End of

Davidace

Is bellerin known for his defensive qualities?! You mustav missed the season opener. I feel bellerin is in a shitty state, hesitant/indecisive atimes, barely gets past any defender this days.

Tez

‘barely gets past any defender this days’
ha.

Gooners

Chamberlain is better than walcott and is younger.And why on earth would one sell to chelsea?chamberlain will be a regular starter at rwb at chelsea

caligunner

what does Walcott have to do with this thread?

Report

we need to Seri _ Lemar and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

Gibbs_Gabriel_Elneny_Jenkinson_coquelin_Debuchy for sale

Drew

£35M – I’m concerned. Although if we could get £35M and then buy Draxler who seems surplus to requirements at PSG now I’d be happy with that. I am concerned that with Gibbs, Wilshire, Ox, Chambers and Jenko we are losing a lot of homegrown British talent. How does that affect our quotas?

Reginald

They didn’t improve though. But Ox should be extended

Drew

Although this is the Standard so let’s not get too carried away.

Rich

No way we should sell to Chelsea, City, Liverpool, United.
I love Oxlade Chamberlain.
He’s got everything, he’s such an exciting talent and there are signs it’s all starting to come together.
We should do everything we can to keep him.
I agree he’s much better than Moses, that’s exactly why we shouldn’t be selling him to strengthen a rival.
What’s the point in spending 7 years educating a player, just so a rival club can reap the rewards?
Not for sale at any price!

Reginald

But how do u get him to agree on a new contract?

Andy Mack

Without knowing why he’s not signed, it’s impossible to answer that question.

The Ref

Sorry, but I much prefer text articles than these unrehearsed, unresearched videos of a man in a room who can’t quite ever seem to get his heating right.
4mins video which says little more than a 200 word article.
I know this is the way ‘journalism’ is going these days, and perhaps I’m too traditional, but vblogs seem like they’re more for the blogger than the audience… They often come across as lazy, self-serving wafflers, and I’d rather be reading something a bit more dynamic than viewing a prolonged selfie. In this guy’s defence he comes across as a friendly, approachable gent who has a fairly keen interest in Arsenal, but for me that’s not enough to watch these rather than read other, more informative articles (but at least its not AFTV!). I hope for his sake I’m in the minority though!

The Ref

Actually, in defence of the vblogs they do create an active comments section. Whether or not it would be different for a written article I can’t say, I’m just stating my personal preference, which in fairness, could very well be highly irrelevant for most.

triobaldcott

No, the only thing lazy and self-serving is your comment. ‘This guy’ is a regular on the site and has co-hosted the Arseblog extra podcasts every monday for over three years… How do you not know that?

2.0

And?? Just because he has co-hosted gives him credentials over what?

2.0

Not having a dig with James or Blogs but like I said 1 year back (possibly 3) shouldn’t take their word for the gospel. Research. Form your own opinion be it right or wrong. Have a healthy debate. And yes apple cider.

Davidace

Exactly!!! Research, Form your own opinion. I pretty much like that.

cagooner

He and Andrew usually talk a lot of sense about all things Arsenal. But i have to say, I think they have a little group think, and lack of objectivity going on regarding Ox. As you can see from the great debate on here, there’s a divided opinion on whether Ox is better rwb than Hector, and there’s a strong sentiment (agreed, not 100%) that he will bring great things to Arsenal and we should not sell him. James – you’re off the mark with this one.

BromleyGooner

You say divided opinion but from what I have seen 80% of fans on here at the moment think Ox is better than Bellerin at RWB. Blogs and James won’t even entertain the idea

The Ref

It was a criticism of the format, not the personality, and the comment has clearly split opinion relatively equally – meaning others may be thinking likewise.
And I even talked myself out of the criticism in the following comment.
Don’t be so quick to overreact with such an irrelevant barrage, you sound like you’ve taken this far too personally…

triobaldcott

Fair enough, I happen to agree with you. Just surprised you didn’t know who he was.

Charmin

You have a choice @the ref; don’t view! The titles are clear so no issue of you clicking in error.

A different George

There’s a difference between selling the Ox and selling him to Chelsea. We are keeping Alexis, even though we may lose him next year on a free, because we want to make a title challenge. On that same logic, we don’t need to keep Oxlade-Chamberlain–but we cannot sell him to another title challenger.

I hope Wenger, who refused to let Debuchy (a player he never intended to use) go to Man United, will not allow Chamberlain or Wilshire to go to Chelsea or any other top Prem club.

caligunner

Aren’t the other top Prem clubs the only ones going to be able to afford his new salary he gets with a new contract?

A different George

I think several Prem clubs with which we are not in direct competition (Newcastle, Palace, Leicester, Southampton, Stoke) could pay his wages–though they would not pay as high a transfer fee as Chelsea.

Terry Henry

Tbh kinda wished we had got Debuchy off our books back then.

A different George

Man United were desperate for a good right fullback. Should we really have helped them?

Terry Henry

Was he a good right back

cagooner

I think he was at that time. Could be again. But hopefully not at Arsenal, because we’ll have Hector and Ox competing for rwb, and Chambers as backup if we switch back to back 4.

crazy gunner

If he won’t sign sell pls and let’s move on …he reckons he can bench Victor Moses so good luck to him.

Mein Bergkampf

It’s such a tough one because when is the right time to draw a line under a player and admit that unbridled potential is not going to transfer into a wonderful footballer? Theo I think we’ve accepted will never become any more than a good player and with Jack there seems to be the general consensus that injuries have got the better of talent. There’s huge question marks over other squad members like Rambo, Coq, Welbz and Xhaka but I do agree with James that if you’re 23-24 and you haven’t established yourself a) in a particular position and b) as a consistent performer maybe you’re not going to make too much more progress and a move is best for both parties.

Rich

23/24 is young, it’s when you generally start seeing the benefits of your education.
He’s nowhere near his peak.
I worry about where we can fit the Ox in at present?
But Alexis played left, Right, striker and as a No10 last season and it wasn’t a problem for him.
I think in two years the Ox will be one of our deep lying midfielders.

Hopefully we can convince him to carry on his education here, maybe by offering him a central role in the Europa and domestic competitions this season? and continuing as a squad player as where needed for now in the PL?

Mein Bergkampf

I’m not saying you have to be a worldie by 23. Iwobi is a good example of someone who although isn’t totally established, we know what he is and what he’s going to be. Ox is still yet to find his footballing identity and it’s getting to a point where if that isn’t established after 5 years, you wonder what long term future the lad has.

GoForIt

The thing is that — regardless of inconsistency to date — at this point he is showing signs of being an outstanding, perhaps even game-changing, type of player, who could make an essential difference in this year’s title race. For me he was clearly the best wing player on the pitch last game — much better than Mahrez.

Tungor

Well, now he gets to play regularly, which is kind of a prereq to refine your football identity? Plenty star players have switched position during Their career’s. The Ox is a monster in the making, which AW started to truly acknowldge only last year. FairPlay to AW he Is doing his best to recap years of overlooking the Ox by praising him 24/7 now.

Davidace

Idiot! Why then did the 35mill price suffice. Think on that.

Albert

No.. Kyle walker and stones 50m.. And ox 35m only.. Better keep ox.. Most important don’t sell to rival club or any top 6 site

caligunner

Well neither of were in the last 12 months of a contract. Ox only showed any consistency in the last 2 months of last season. Before that he didn’t deserve a new contract extension.

Nord

Absolutely not!

Goonerink

seems like a 70-30 split from the comments.

I cant see how;
A) 35 million for a homegrown prospect who is 24, is good money in today’s market.
B) Selling anyone to a rival who is even near the first team.
C) Selling a CM to Chelsea who have 2/3 senior CM after losing Matic,
or
D) Selling WB cover to Chelsea who’s weakness is arguably that position.
is even fathomable.

like is 20 million profit even that much in comparison?

Goonerink

also personally I would rather sell Theo and watch him strive playing the vardy role for less money and give Perez the chance in Theo’s place as the sub winger/wide attacker.
That being said, when Alexis is back I think Welbeck is going to take that spot next to Giroud (the CF sub) on the bench.

caligunner

You know Theo and Perez have no part of this thread? I don’t understand why you even brought him up? They don’t play the same position.

I hope if they do sell Arsenal get little more but the fact is he isn’t Alexis. He’s a player in his prime that still hasn’t locked down a position in either formation to call his own.

Tungor

why Do you Mention Alexis? He has no part in this Thread.

PFo

Goonerink nails it.

Kai Everlasting Gooner
Kai Everlasting Gooner

Play Ox.Bench Ozil until he finds his magic again.

caligunner

Wow lol

Fox in the Director\'s Box
Fox in the Director\'s Box

Sell him for Costa & some cash!

Phil

Couldn’t disagree more. Oxlade is a very good player for us and would be a big loss. He is not scoring goals and he gets injured a little too much, but still he plays lots of good games and is very important for the squad. His versatility makes him able to play both of the wingbacks, central midfield and the attacking roles behind the main striker. That’s 6 (!) positions in the current system. Why would you want to let such a player go? Versatile players are the future. This guy has it all, is only 24, is English, knows the Arsenal way, has lots of pace, …

I can’t see why we need the 35 million Pounds? Lemar is way too expensive and only had 1 good season in another league. Everybody talks about this guy but I am pretty sure, 95 percent hasn’t seen him play for more than 3 matches. What’s with the fetish to offload good players and always buy unknown expensive alternatives who have no link at all with Arsenal.

We did 2 great transfers with Sead en Lacazette. The focus now should be on selling players who want/need to leave + agreeing new contracts for Ozil, Alexis, Oxlade, Ramsey, … We have a great squad with so many options. Still people are talking about the need for a 6th central midfielder or a 8th attacking player. I can’t believe it.

caligunner

Lemar is 21 and actually put up a full season of consistent play in the eyes of others while Ox has never put up a full season for one reason or another.

Yes he’s versatile but he doesn’t want to be. He wants to play central no the wing. He’s in his last season for a reason not like Ozil or Sanchez. He’s in his last season because before the last 2 months of last season he was inconsistent.

I don’t think Arsenal is looking for a 6th CM they are looking for a 3rd CM ahead of Elneny, Coq, Wilshere and the rest of them. Basically compete with Ramsey.

Tungor

One of those reasons Is lack of belief/patience from AW. While walcott has seen plenty of that Over Long spells of bleak perfomances, the Ox Only got occasional chances in which he needed to make imediate impact else get surpassed to the bench.

Javis

Being versatile is not necessarily a good thing, jsck of all trades etc..he needs to be excelling at a specific role at this stage of his career. Perhaps RWB is that but he doesnt want to play there if all reoirts can be believed, he’s been offered very good money too considering his incredibly poor form and injuries over the last few yrs

Charleston

Blogs, I think WE CAN GAMBLE on Alex Oxlade Chamberlain. Coz we need squad players as well, but we do not really need the £35m. The transfer market is gonna be super inflated in the next 15 days & reinvesting that money will only probably get us a poorer player than Chamberlain. You’ve gotta gamble if you hope to win the lottery. Imagine if we can’t find a good replacement – Emirates Stadium will be worse than Satan’s Hell come September. Just can’t afford it.

caligunner

You assume that once Ox is sold we are only going to spend what we get from Ox not look at it as what we get from Ox will just be added to what we are trying to spend.

IndieGooner

If we are intend on selling the Ox, wait up a bit. If the purported sale of Coutinho goes through, Liverpool will come across lot of money which they will need to reinvest before the window closes. English internationals usually don’t go abroad; if there’s no chance of him signing on, the best recourse would be to have a bidding war between English clubs that would yield as the most.

Ibrahim

Wenger should not did that mistake of selling him why, the guy is in form so why selling him now or Arsenal is no more interest in lifting the trophy 🏆 again or Arsenal is just a club of building players to sell, Wenger 👴

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santori

We SHOULD NOT sell.

What happened to not strengthening your rivals?

This is nonsense.

If it were a fringe player I’d say certainly.

BUT Ox for all his faults is a HIGH IMPACT player.

Against Leicester, his dynamic movement caused them a lot of problems and he was the better of our wing backs.

Are you mental?

Sell?

35m is tempting but nah.

BODMAS

NO

Tungor Adams

Not a chance. Letting go of Ox and keeping Walcott would be very very stupid, the lad is a supertalent that now finally (angry look at AW here) gets a run of games, and responds with a very progressive form. I bet the same people that says Oxe out have been wanting Ramsey to leave as well. Why Oxlade still hasn’t got a new contract is yet another appallingly poor act of management by our club.

canon fodder

Walcott who has scored 100 goals compared with the Ox who has scored a total of 30 in his career to date? Walcott is a proven goal scorer while the Ox flatters to deceive.

PFo

There’s more to being a good footballer than goal scoring.

Tungor

After all these years he still hasnt scored more Than a 100. walcott doesnt have the qualities our style of play demands. He can be massive at a club that doesnt retain possession, to knep him only for the rare occasions AW wants the opponent to dominante possesion is a hell of a waste of our resources and Walcotts prime years. + hinders playerd that actually have what it takes, like Iwobi, ramsey, wellbeck and the Ox, all Much better behind/next to lacazette/giroud/Sanches than walcott)

Time to count the Chickens when it comes to theo, sell and look to our next Crop instead like Nelson.

caligunner

They play different positions. It’s not Walcott or Ox. It’s Ox who either wants a huge increase in salary or he wants to play only CM and not wing.

Tungor

While Ox is index more versatile, and Can play CM as well as Wing, back in 4231 It was walcott that Kept him out of the starting 11, even Wien underperforming. the Ox has 2x the football Brian required for our style of play yet never enjoyed the same generuous patience to grow inte the team. with 3-4-3 Walcott Becomes Even more alianated to our game plan.

Adam

Sell if we have a better replacement lined up, if we cant then don’t – simple

PFo

And we don’t so we shouldn’t.

Twatsloch

Absolutely not!

santori

If this isn’t the dumbest thing I’ve heard.

Strengthening a direct rival…well here’s something more dumb…Chelsea sell Matic to United.

Unlike where our midfield is currently, United have bought well, with Matic allowing Pogba to roam further, they have strength in deep midfield…thanks to Chelsea.

We have not solved our midfield issue.

Ramsey may dove tail with Granit but Elneny does nothing to complement the Swiss’s short coming in terms of tackling or out jumping Okazaki.

Yet again we are in danger of neglecting this area of the pitch which was our achilles heels. Yet again we are fooled by a player who may do well in pre-season but may not offer enough for what we need in a serious campaign.

And I’m not talking about Granit who is critical for us going forward

And then to think we should get rid of one of our most dynamic players with potential to improve to a strong rival…

Yes lets send a compound message that if you are in last year of contract, Arsenal will sell. If it isn’t already enough we may have to sell Alexis, lets get rid of Ozil and Ox as well.

Clever.

Diarra

“Strengthening”? He isn’t an upgrade on Moses, he isn’t an elite PL level CM and he won’t bench Hazard or Pedro/Moses for the wing positions. He would be a squad player at Chelsea as he is here which is barely strengthening a rival. And we would get money which we wouldn’t if he leaves next summer for free

Diarra

Meant Pedro/Willian

Groverider

Got enough pictures on your wall mate?

Instigator

Sell him and get lucas moura of psg, he is not useful for Chelsea.. Is he gonna bench hazard? No! Then I don’t think we are strengthening them by selling him

tony

Are u kidding – Walcott and Welbeck should go before the Ox. He was man of the
match friday night and he is the only player we have that can go past defenders at pace. If he can stay fit we need him more than W and W. Keeping Giroud is also a no-brainer!

caligunner

Lol they don’t play the same positions. It’s not trying to get rid of players for the sake of getting rid of them. Ox is in his last year of a contract. He hasn’t signed an new one yet for one reason or another. Maybe its high salary demands or guarantee of playing CM and not be a utility player.

Mark

No way Wenger would sell him without having someone else like a Lemar lined up to buy immediately with the money he receives, but obviously looks like the Lemar thing is a no go at this point. I am sure we will lose him for free next year so would not be surprised to see him sold, but would be surprised to see him sold with no replacement lined up.

Gooner49

If we don’t sell, he’ll just join the hordes seeing out their contracts. How long are we gonna be held to ransom by players engineering a move. We’re so slow in transfer market it’s embarrassing. All of our rivals have strengthened and we’re still quibbling about the odd couple of million here and there. It’s a joke.

karl

Watching the end of last season and this too, I certainly wouldn’t let Ox go to a rival. We don’t have any other direct players with pace that take on defenders. Making £35m for Ox won’t be the tipping point to bring in the player we need. There are plenty of funds and plenty of other worse players that could go to free up squad places.

Daniela 9

I’m not qualified to really evaluate Ox. But with regard to all the “strengthening a rival” stuff, it should be noted that this reasoning only applies when the player in question is world class: someone like Alexis, Aguero, Pogba, whose skills can’t be readily purchased elsewhere. And I think we can all agree Ox is not that type of player.

In this case, if they don’t buy from us, they can just go shopping elsewhere. So if they pay above the odds, we win and they lose. Below the odds, the reverse. And this is one area where I trust Wenger entirely. If he thinks he can get good value from Chelsea, let him get it and (this is important) spend it on someone who will make us better.

Bobbyboy

I am incredulous theat we are even thinking of selling one of our best players, a fans favourite and very often the only player to come across to the fans at away games. There is no argument to sell if we are going to placate Ozil and Sanchez

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If Chelsea was lying in the street with it’s hair on fire I wouldn’t even piss on it. Chelsea can have Sanogo

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We’d be mad to sell him. He’s been a consistent stand out player of late. Is he scoring goals, no, but he’s doing almost everything else, & is currently in contention to keep Bellerin out of the team. Why on earth would we want to sell him to a direct rival?

…Madness…Pure madness.

Araj

The absolute idiocy of this. So so idiotic. Are you kidding me with the nearly guy thing? Arsenal, the club that gives over 100k per week to Theo Walcott and keeps Danny Welbeck on the books should sell a 24 year old obviously talented player who gets into the English squad above both those players because HE is a “nearly guy”? Arsenal have specialized in signing and persisting with nearly guys with far far less talent and far far less output and far far less love for the club and this is the guy where you want to start? So idiotic.
You want to sell nearly guys and make some money, here is an idea: sell Theo Walcott, Lucas Perez and Danny Welbeck, get around 60-70 mil and buy one single player who will actually be competition to Sanchez and Ozil.
And the most important thing that people keep purposefully forgetting about these young players not signing contracts be it Ox today or Gnabry last year is that they’re not idiots. They can see how overstuffed the team is in their positions. Instead of empty promises the club needs to clear out people who have had their chance, proven they are not good enough for the first 11 and are far past the point of improvement.

Diarra

Ox has performed for 3 months at RWB where he apparently doesn’t want to play, asking for a 100k+/week and waiting to play CM where he has been pretty average.

I say let him go for a good chunk of money.

P.s. Welbeck is a better player, he has suffered from injuries but shown a lot more during his career than the Ox

Alex

Sorry but I am pro-Ox and think we should be doing a deal with him. HOWEVER, if he won’t sign, say, a 20% pay rise or so, he’s got to be moved on

yen

Let me put this into different perspective I feel people seem to overlook – I understand his frustration if he feels like he wasn’t given proper chance at central midfield – because when deployed there last season, his performances were “ranging from very good to outstanding.”

I put this into quotes because I actually used these exact words in one of my comments a month ago and was downvoted heavily – which made me question my sanity – and therefore I went through all the player ratings and statistics on WhoScored and Squawka from those games.

To sum up, he played 5 games at CM last season and was voted MOTM in 4 of those. In the remaining game, he was rated as our second best player after Xhaka – still it was hist “worst” game of those over there – and was dropped from CM afterwards.

These 5 games weren’t consecutive games though. In the meantime, he was being deployed on the wing (not wingback, we were still playing with 4 at the back at the time) and he was pretty shit in those games – as well as the rest of the team (Watford, Bayern 1st leg, Liverpool).

If you don’t believe me, go through the thread under this article (just look up my name), where I analysed those games a bit more:

http://news.arseblog.com/2017/07/wenger-on-alexis-the-decision-is-not-to-sell/

What my point is – his very good performances at central midfield were overshadowed by the negativity around our team. Those were the times where pretty much everyone but him was completely off and on top of that, discussion about Wenger’s future was at the center of attention.

He should be given a much greater chance at central midfield, yet it is obvious he won’t.

I still think there’s a different solution to this – give him a proper run at RWB. I’m not talking about 2 games, I’m talking about 10. Let him settle, let him not worry about where on the pitch he’ll be playing next weekend, let him bag some points and I believe he’ll start to like it very, very much.

Remember when Theo was dead serious about being a central striker?

Yeah.

santori

I mean this fellow had the most successful take one on the day against Leicester, the most possession gained(10) on our team and took the most shots on goal (more than the Leicester combine (7) but you think we should be selling him….to a peer rival.

So we should spend the remaining week or so left in the transfer window shopping around for another replacement as if we are not already at risk losing Alexis.

Clever.

Javis

He’s not signing a new contract and wants to play CM, if 35M is om offer we should sell and get an actual CM. I really like the Ox but in all honesty he’s massively under performed and or been injured a lot given his atheltisism and natural ability. If we want league titles we need to be ruthless with players who aren’t at the level required level.

For too long we’ve let players perform badly without any consequence or upgrading, on the whim they’ll come good..that’s gotta stop

karl

Your point about letting players perform badly without consequence is hitting the nail on the head. However, there are many players ahead of Ox on that list!

Gilbert from Kenyan

Ox seems to be a threat to an opponent when he catches a ball and it would be a wrong move for arsenal trying to sell him now. Negotiation will happen but I think at the end he will definitely grabs a pen for a New deal…

The Sead was great

Just pick up another kyle walker from spudsville. The 3rd one is free i think

truj

Aelling The Ox to a direct rival would be a great addition to the squad…

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ALexis PACINO

No we should not. Ox is better than Ozil. He has fight in him and superb technical ability. Sell Ozil and fund Lemar transfer.

NickyB

He can play at RWB and CM – yes, CM!

Are we really gonna buy a CM before the window closes, I seriously doubt it.
Play Ox in the middle – internal solutions and all that.

Berty Almeida

No ways!! U can’t be selling the OX!he’s just 23 and he has the best years ahead of him….He has super pace and dribbling skills! He is the future of arsenal! GI’ve him this year and he will prove that he is one of the best in this league!

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