Report: Debuchy out for two months

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Mathieu Debuchy may not have broken anything in his awkward fall yesterday but he is still facing two months on the sidelines.

Le Parisien reports this morning that the French international has damaged ligaments in his left ankle and could be out until the middle of November.

It leaves us incredibly short of defensive options with back-up centre-back Calum Chambers now likely to deputise at right-back.

Mathieu Flamini and Hector Bellerin are other options to cover for Debuchy with the Spaniard likely to get a run out in the Capital One Cup against Southampton in 10 days time.

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Weng(unn)er
Weng(unn)er

It’s just bad luck, has been all this while. Even Shad can’t change that.

Turkis Gooner
Turkis Gooner

Its not just down to bad luck. I think its inexcusable in the modern football to go into a season with an ambition to win the title having 2 seasoned CBs.

WengersNoseHair
WengersNoseHair

Damn, I feel like a barbeque now.

Harish P
Harish P

Compete at the top end – yes, but when was it stated we were in to win the title?

Personally, I’ve felt since 2013 (with the heavy drop of deadwood, and with the commercial deals + new TV money) that it would take Wenger until next summer to really show a squad that is strong on every front.

We’re not far from seeing that, and I think we can all agree that we have a ridiculously strong squad in quality AMD depth, but there are obvious gaps. The club will need just a bit more time to really show full strength. I think we’re in with a chance to fight for the title, but I don’t expect it until next year.

By the way, we still have some depth. Chambers may fill in at RB but we also have Bellerin. If needs be, Chambers can easily slot in at the middle and AW can just as easily use Bellerin if needed, as well as our utility player Flamini.

It’s not THAT bad, just not ideal. Certainly excusable for now, we can’t expect to carry a fourth CB who will sit around for no reason, and worst case scenario – Hayden is a strong academy prospect who is said to be able to take that slot.

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

Coq has played FB as well.

Giroud's Mistress
Giroud's Mistress

I don’t think Wenger will whip his Coq out unless he has to though….

Ludivigne
Ludivigne

Don’t completely disagree with you Harish. Still highly curious though on why we were unable to make that last defensive signing.

I’m not interested in fans’ easy conclusions. I’d like to know what factors there were: concerning targets’ availability now or later, ease of signing then or in future, economics – seen outside the raging microcosm of one transfer window – if overpaying now affects future transfer targets/bids for example.

All things that reside (rightly) within the closed doors of the club so one cannot know.
The only useful conclusion I’ve been able to reach is it would do us well to start aiming for the ‘Top Three Trophy’. Firstly, because not playing CL qualifiers gives us more time to make signings at window’s end. Secondly, because we obviously play two less games.

Moxxi
Moxxi

But will we be able to hold off the other clubs in the fight for top 4 if we have to depend on academy players for large portions of the season? That is the concern. There is allways someone that can cover, that is not the issue. The issue is the quality of the cover. Dipping in to the academy to get us through the season isnt just not ideal, it is borderline crazy, and just unneccesary and ludicrous for a club stating its ambitions is to compete for all available trophys.

When other clubs manages to go out and fill the positions that needed filling, then why cant we? Liverpool made like 10-11 signings to get the depth needed for an extended season with CL football and all. Chelsea went early and got the Playmaker and Striker they needed to make the team complete and capable of fighting for the trophy. City went and plugged their defensive hole with Mangala and United upgraded on several important positions and signed 2 of the best players in the world. Allthough, they like us might still be a bit light at the back, but with an insane forward line, they could do a Liverpool this season and steamroll most opposition despite leaking at the back. If you score more than you concede, you still get 3 points.

Meanwhile we are allready debating which academy players to bring in to plug holes in our team.

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

How many defenders to Chelsea have in their squad?
Have a look at the other ‘top’ teams squads and you’ll see that most don’t have much more than us (but they do have more!). personally I think we’re 1 CB short but if Hayden shows the form of Chambers… big IF.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

An absolutely perfect comment….tips cap

GoonerN16

You have just contradicted your own whinge….

kafka
kafka

I appreciate the points you are making, but what exactly does compete at the top end mean if we are starting out with the assumption that competing does not equal going for winning. So we are competing, but not to win, just to show competitiveness?

Please Note: I have not lost patience, I am not demanding another trophy, I am not complaining about the long drought in the premier league. For me watching the development of the team and the club is as important.

But I tire of these half assed revisionisms that keep selling the future. And it is so defeatist of you to be talking about next season when we are at the beginning of this season. Again, keep in mind I am not asking for a guaranteed trophy, there is no such thing any club can offer, and we should always think long term, but that does not mean totally cockeyed decisions about the squad in the present need to be defended/not criticized. The squad has a serious issue in defensive personnel numbers, and that is bad management.

Saying that does not make me a Wenger hater or a glory hunter. And I don’t care to say what the majority will “thumb up.” We can think with reason and not just run with the majority opinion.

Podolski Sklep
Podolski Sklep

Excuses.

SwissGunner
SwissGunner

FUUUUCK!! Get well soon Debuchy.

Bonjour
Bonjour

Well, when I saw the oxygen mask and the stretcher come on, I thought he would be out for a year. Two months is a “phew”.

heavens
heavens

Sigh

AN Other
AN Other

Oh fuck

ryan.gay.4.afc
ryan.gay.4.afc

Why the fuck is this happening!

Voldermort
Voldermort

It happens almost every year to us so it shouldn’t come as a surprise. The fact that we have an obvious lack of defensive cover however is not so surprising and is bordering on negligent.
We now have to over play all our defenders to the point of exhaustion and hope one or more doesn’t suffer the inevitable breakdown. Farcical.

ryan.gay.4.afc
ryan.gay.4.afc

But the injury was from nothing! No pressure, no shit surface, nothing! We are seriously short at the back now but I really can’t understand how our players keep receiving these freak injuries. Shad’s job just got that bit harder……

The Ghost of Paul Robinson
The Ghost of Paul Robinson

The pressure of his entire body coming down and his studs catching in the hard emriates turf did the trick.

Miranda
Miranda

More likely the high proportion of artificial grass at the Emirates. It doesn’t give like the real stuff and many physios blame it for injuries like this.

No point blaming Arsenal, however. We were one of the first to go in for it in a big way but most big clubs now have pitches like ours. It’s just the price you pay for a year-round surface like a billiard table.

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

He was probably carrying most of the injury from an earlier tackle. Just putting all his weight on it at a particular angle was just the straw that broke the camels back.

Emmanuel
Emmanuel

I am actually quite excited to see Bellerin take over , although wenger will go for the safer option in Chambers .

heavens
heavens

One injury per game this is getting ridiculous! Not even funny anymore how can that be happening?!!

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

Ref are letting it happen. When Milner clattered Debuchy very early on (maybe contributory to the injury) and the ref did nothing when he should have carded Milner, you knew there’s be a serious injury sometime in the game.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

Yup, Milner put that patch of grass there……you fool

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

I guess you don’t understand how most football these injuries happen then. He was carrying a ‘weakness’ from an earlier tackle and all his weight together with the angle and catching studs was the last straw. You fool.

Arsenal Fan #2
Arsenal Fan #2

Fools…

WizardOfOzil
WizardOfOzil

When Debuchy got injured, Milner should have been retrospectively red-carded for that earlier tackle. Also the ref should have blown the final whistle at that point. Disgrace.

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

Ha ha.

It wasn’t necessarily Milners challenge that was the trigger for the injury, even though it was a horrible ‘tackle’.

WizardOfOzil
WizardOfOzil

It was a bit of a scythe but I think he might of gotten away with because it happened soon after a couple of other players were booked for Citeh, and Zabaleta’s yellow was slightly harsh.

On the whole though, in terms of roughing the opposition up, I think we gave as good if not better than what we got. In a way that was quite pleasing, our harrying was…surprising.

Podobviouski
Podobviouski

No pressure, Hector 😀

critic
critic

We have lost one player in every match whether due to injury or Red card!!!
Insane!!
Footballing gods dont wanna see us winning again.

AllGunsABlazin

Merde!

Indrossi
Indrossi

Can we give Carl Jenkinson a bell?

Poldi's Hyper Masculine Voice
Poldi's Hyper Masculine Voice

In loan deals, yes.

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

As I understand it, it has to be specified in the loan agreement. Some say ‘anytime’ and some give specific dates on which they can be called back. Some immediately and some with a notice period. Some can’t be called back at all.

Remember the invincibles
Remember the invincibles

As luck would have it, jenkinson is also injured.

ryan.gay.4.afc
ryan.gay.4.afc

Banter.

David
David

Jenkins is actually injured if you can believe it. I thought the curse lifted when one was on loan.

Swedegunner
Swedegunner

Doesn’t work with Jenko since he’s Arsenal through and through

paulb
paulb

He;s injured as well

bergkamp's hooped sock
bergkamp's hooped sock

He’s injured as well. It’s a conspiracy I say!

The Ghost of Paul Robinson
The Ghost of Paul Robinson

As far as I’m aware a player recalled outside of a transfer window is ineligible.

Miranda
Miranda

He wouldn’t be eligible for the CL anyway, as far as I know. We’ve declared our group-stage squad and can’t add to it now. Still, chin up, we’ve got hundreds of schoolboys listed, some of whom are probably defenders.

And on the subject of our kids, brilliant that we’re top of both tables. What a difference Jonker has made in just a few weeks. Hope the under-19s make a good showing against Dortmund Wednesday lunchtime. They should as the squad morale must be really high.

heavens
heavens

Im seriously getting worried like its not even a case of being overplayed its just happening!! This is not normal 🙁

Yankee Gooner
Yankee Gooner

I’m trying to see the bright side being that it’s only two months–in Arsenal time, that MIGHT mean four months–I thought it would be a lot longer (based purely on the level of writhing).

lanre
lanre

There you go Arsene. Now what?

butters
butters

normally id be scared, but we still have the young bellerin to scare every opposition

SWGooner
SWGooner

Every game Debuchy has taken a bad knock. Is he being targeted?!

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

Yup, that patch of grass his studs got caught on was put there by the Premier League just to give us another injury!! Definitely targeted!!! Lmfao

sanchezla sangat
sanchezla sangat

Why arsenal players so fragile.do we need to change the training method?

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

They aren’t. The if the refs let the opposition be kicked around to the same level then they’d have more injuries.

Phil
Phil

I’d be inclined to think that the football gods were aiming at Nasri and missed if it weren’t for the fact that this is happening every fucking game. This is ludicrously bad luck.

heavens
heavens

We’d certainly have won the last two games had it not been for injuries killing our momentum then costing us points! It surely had an impact anyway

Deano

Come own up who keeps smashing mirrors?

okhaldunge
okhaldunge

Need bellerin and Hayden promoted to first team ASAP and speedy recovery to debuchy, he is a real warrior. Can we bring Jenks back?

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

Injured

Ankur
Ankur

I have faith in BELLERIN…..He will surely step up

MTZ
MTZ

Bollocks.

James
James

It’s just further evidence that Debuchy should have tried to pass Jesus Navas on the left hand side.

glovedhand
glovedhand

Let’s wait until he’s been properly assessed before we throw all our toys out of the collective pram. This is just speculation after all at this stage. Not that I’m really expecting much better…

blade
blade

2 months? Wait till med team gets there hands on him.

jdegunner
jdegunner

This is fucking bad

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

It’s was bad before….but the “inevitable injury in a position we are short in” happened so now it’s even worse

blade
blade

Rosicky?
RVP
TV5
Walcott
Gibbs
And…Diaby

Arsenalist
Arsenalist

Better view of injury than what’s in the post: http://arsenalist.com/f/2014-15/arsenal-vs-man-city/debuchy-injury-stretchered-off.html

4 competitions, 5 defenders. This ought to be fun.

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

Do you mean 5 experienced defenders (not sure if I’d call Chambers experienced but he plays like he is) or are you forgetting Flamini, Coq, Bellerin and Hayden (and more youngsters if really necessary)

neutral
neutral

Yeah the gif above does not show the injury, only just afterwards.

xxxrob
xxxrob

It is still hard to actually see what the fuck he did lol
Real shame he has hurt himself so innocuously but shit happens. Hope he recovers well.
I actually really like the guy. He just strikes me as a hard cunt and we need some of that in the squad.
Case in point – Milner’s over the top tackle on him in the first half was repaid in kind almost immediately.
That shit gets my dick hard!

xxxrob
xxxrob

Curious what people have thumbed down about this lol

Policeman's Bangers 'N' Mash
Policeman's Bangers 'N' Mash

WOW! WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT? IT WOULD HAVE BEEN STUPID BUYING MORE DEFENDERS ANYWAY BECAUSE THIS WAS NEVER LIKELY TO HAPPEN WAS IT?

WENGER IS A GENIUS! I CAN TOTALL SEE WHY WE DIDN’T BUY MORE DEFENDERS.

Hello?

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

If you turn the ‘Cap Lock’ off then less people will think you’re a twat and actually read what you type. I didn’t read it so I don’t know if you’re right or wrong…..

Joes
Joes

It wasn’t worth reading. According to the people in the know, it is a mere formality that Chelsea will win the League this season. Apparently they have the strongest squad, with exactly the same number of defenders as us.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

Didn’t see the Chavs mentioned anywhere in the original comment….just some facts about our known injury record & lack of cover. Keep spinning things to suit your opinion tho

Joes
Joes

“Facts about our known injury record”. This is a nonsense statement. As Walcott is almost ready to return to the first team, currently our known injured players are Giroud and Debuchy, hardly a disaster. I prefer to live in the real world and enjoy a superb game yesterday that we could have won and had we been more unlucky could have lost. Despite that the miserablists turn up spouting misery and woe, targeting abuse towards the manager and certain players. Just to help you wallow some more, if it is a bad sprain then we will have lost him until December, two months out and then the best part of another month to get back to fitness. The truth is that we have the same number of defensive players as Chelsea, this is not spin but a “known”.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

I can’t reply to your other comment for some reason, but YES, FACTS about our known injury record. It’s happened every season for the last 6-7 years. To say we have an injury prone team is a FACT, not an opinion. To not get proper cover for a known injury prone team is criminal FACT.

Joes
Joes

It is an opinion not a fact. The fact is all teams have injuries, it is inevitable in a contact sport.

Joes
Joes

Chambers, Coquelin, Flamini and Bellerin can play at right back. How much more cover do you want?

Joes
Joes

To further illustrate the point that injuries are not unique to us, Dortmund are unlikely to have Hummels, Reus and Sahin available to play against us on Tuesday.

AP
AP

Never let facts get in the way of your lies eh?

Gooner1886
Gooner1886

Stevie Bould is coming out of retirement, rumour had it that he is quicker than Par over 20 yards

GGGA
GGGA

dang people. chill down a lil bit. Bellerin is ready I tell you. Get him on the bench, and if Chambers need to deputize at CB, let Bellerin play.

Mental Strength
Mental Strength

Is there any centre back free agent right now that we can sign? We desperately need someone.

Oscar
Oscar

Mario Yepes, Colombian World Cup CB. He’s 38 but plays like he’s 28. It’d be a decent back up. If we signed Sol Campbell a couple of seasons ago, I don’t see why we wouldn’t sign him. It will never happen though.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

Signed for San Lorenzo……Wenger won’t look for cover anyway as it would contradict what he said about us having enough cover this summer. Wengers not there yet, but there are a few “senior moments” creeping in & it’s worrying.

this aint FIFA bitches
this aint FIFA bitches

Big bad Sol for a third stint!!

Thierry Bergkamp
Thierry Bergkamp

I’m sure I’m not the only Arsenal supporter who’s not surprised by this. We’re used to it. I know in the heat of battle, instinct takes over, but there was no danger and he didn’t have to stretch for the ball like that. Oh well, shit happens, especially if you’re an Arsenal player

Swedegunner
Swedegunner

It kind of felt like the air and confidence went out of the team (and the stadium) after his injury, it looked so bad with the oxygen and everything. I can’t help but to think we would’ve won had he not gotten injured.

this aint FIFA bitches
this aint FIFA bitches

That’s nonsense because our August player of the month came on to replace him.

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

But sometimes it takes a while to get up to the pace of the game and when you come on with 9 mins left, you may never get up to it.

James Reihill
James Reihill

The problem now is our only available senior defenders need to play every game even when carrying niggles etc thus are prone to injury. A vicious cycle of our own making. Very frustrating as the team is very strong in many regards-always seem to be just a few players short.

Rich
Rich

It’s fine we have plenty of options in attacking midfield.

Vat
Vat

Seriously, why don’t we dip into the free agent market at the very least, now? Why not Yepes or any other name which I’ve not been paid to scout and conjure up – what stops us? Can someone who has a ear with arsenal put this in?

We could then line up
Bellerin-Kos-Per-Gibbs, with Monreal, Chambers and , Flamini as cover OR

Chambers-Kos-Per-Gibbs, with Monreal, Bellerin and , Flamini as cover.

Makes too much sense for us to do it?

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

No mention of Coq who’s started games as FB for us in the distant past…

Arsepedant
Arsepedant

Also Yepes has already signed for San Lorenzo.

Vincent O'Carroll
Vincent O'Carroll

Our lack of defensive cover is criminal….plain as..but a greater concern to me is that we can’t seem to get the best out of Ozil….watching yesterday he was a passenger…..I can’t help feeling that we should have brought Cesc back and made some money by putting Ozil on the market….unpalatable as it may be, Cesc is gonna be a major factor if Chelski take top spot………if he wanted to come back I would have done everything within our power to get him…..he would have played with a point to prove….I think we are struggling to prove that Ozil is worth his place in our best starting 11……….,

Alexstratz
Alexstratz

Why not offer a free agent a 6 months deal? We did loan Emiliano for 1 year to sit on the bench, so why aren’t we doing the same for a CB until January?

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

You really think that they wouldn’t be looking at that ?
If they don’t get someone then my guess is that all the free agents are deemed less talented than out youth team options.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

Nope, I have no faith in Wenger looking at those options bc it would contradict what he has said over the last few months

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

He said the same thing about our options in attack.
He says these things as he doesn’t want other teams to think we’re desperate for any player that we enquire about.
Personally I feel certain he wanted another CB but couldn’t find one he rates highly enough to justify the price,

winterburn 87
winterburn 87

It’s the Emirates Stadium Curse

o2ba
o2ba

And twats call us lucky Arsenal!!

heroldgoon
heroldgoon

Arsene Wenger will play there.

Runkeball
Runkeball

Thus spake the manager of the manager out section.

n11gooner
n11gooner

#findramblingpete

Davey
Davey

Why’s everyone getting so butthurt? We’re pretty stocked at RB.

Even if we lose a CB we shift Chambers across, have (the very exciting) Bellerin in at RB and still have Flamini as emergency cover…

No one’s been crying about the LB situation and we’re in the exact same situation there!

Furthermore if worst comes to worst we can recall Carl Jenkinson or promote Hayden (who has been excellent for the U21s).

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

Add Coq into the options.
We’re better stocked than the PL leaders at the moment……..

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

No, not Coquelin!!!! Please, stop……….he couldn’t cut it for us the last 3-4 years & couldn’t cut it on loan at Freiburg last season FFS…..forgive me if he doesn’t fail me with confidence.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

*fill me with confidence

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

He did OK for us (as a young guy). He did OK in his first loan season despite being played out of position (in lots of different positions) but he was poor last year when he spent too much of it injured and didn’t play well when he wasn’t. But playing ‘on loan’ doesn’t always translate when they’re back in their home team. Hopefully he’ll play in the LCup and we’ll see if he’s up to the job.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

Oh, injured Jenks?

Samuel Akinsola Adebosin.
Samuel Akinsola Adebosin.

You guys have said it all. So, why raising alarm now. Our available defenders: Mertesacker… Koscielny… Gibbs… Monreal… Chambers… Bellerin and Hayden. There could be another good guy in there, which the boss has not yet revealed to us. Sorry, our 8th defender is now sideline with an ankle injury for 2 months. I/We are wishing him a remarkable recovery.

Vat
Vat

Ozil cannot be compared to Sanchez, just as ramsey cannot be compared to Sanchez. Ozil drifts and has a great footballing brain – he is not an athelete. He cannot be used to hunt down defenders.

However, that said, Ozil is clearly low on confidence. The biggest issue is that he isn’t sharp in passing. The fluid style arsenal play in doesn’t quite appear to be in his wavelength, for whatever reason – he wants fast runners to thread through balls onto, but mentally he just isn’t seeing it which is worrying. With welbeck, sanchez and ramsey there are enough runners – but he isn’t thinking sharply. This isn’t an ability thing, its a confidence issue which two things can resolve – practise and wenger’s ability to inspire confidence in him

He isn’t going to defend, because he doesn’t have the same physical skills as those around him, but he has to try. he has to be disciplined. And that’s on wenger. I believe in Ozil, but he needs a dose on confidence injected into him. A goal, a couple of assists may do it.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

Wanna know what is a great thing to do to a player low on confidence?? Play him not only out of position, but continue to do it until he gets so frustrated that even the simple things don’t come off. Certain players can be switched to the wing…..a PROVEN WORLD CLASS #10 WHO IS NOT THAT FAST IS NOT ONE OF THEM!!! I swear the lack of defensive #s & Wengers “handling” of Ozil are quickly becoming a joke in the football world!!

RodGoonerInTtown
RodGoonerInTtown

Time for one or two of our youngsters to step up. It doesn’t have to be negative but our experience as Arsenal fans tells us otherwise

Saffa Gooner
Saffa Gooner

No biggie. The other top 4 teams will get their injuries after Christmas when we have a full strength team. Can’t wait.

Ces1ne
Ces1ne

Hahahahahahahha, did Wenger tell you that?? Bc that’s the only way he can TRY to defend not having sufficent #s when any person that can count knew we were short at the back…….oh wait! weren’t there some people on here saying Bellerin/Chambers are ready? Well, all it took was ONE injury right after the window closed to force us to find out!!!! These are situations a lower-table/class club should go thru, not Arsenal 6 matches into the season FFS. Other years we could say we were unlucky with injuries, but THIS YEAR Wenger had time to prepare for it & didn’t. Hope we pull thru, but it’s all very worrying.