Usmanov: Wenger is great coach but he’s made mistakes

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Arsenal’s second largest shareholder, Alisher Usmanov, appears to have given his backing to Arsene Wenger, calling the Frenchman a ‘great coach’, but says the Arsenal manager has made mistakes the club need to strengthen to compete properly domestically and in Europe.

Speaking to CNBC, Usmanov said, “He is one of the greatest coaches not just of European, but of world football.

“But there is a Russian proverb which goes – ‘Even an old lady can have a roof falling on her’. Everybody makes mistakes. He can make mistakes and I know as you age that it is more difficult, more challenging to accept one’s mistakes.”

When pressed on whether or not it was time for Wenger to go, Usmanov said, “That is not my decision.

“He is a great man, a great coach, he had great victories and he has to have an opportunity to secure trophies, which he and his team ought to have.

“I wish them victories, because their victories are the victories of investors, including myself, and of the Arsenal fans who deserve them.”

It’s worth remembering that Usmanov’s alliance with David Dein probably makes his quite pro-Wenger, but he wants to see more investment in the playing squad.

“My opinion, and I tell it openly, is that we need to strengthen every position to play on the level of such teams in UK as Chelsea and Manchester City, in Europe like Real, Barcelona, Paris Saint-Germain, Bayern Munich and other clubs.

“I have no plans apart from wishing lots of successes to Arsenal, but I always express my opinion. I know sport pretty well and respect everyone at the club, including Kroenke, who has a substantial experience in sport.”

So, basically he’s saying what many fans are: that the team needs to be strengthened, the manager needs to address some of his issues and that we need to be more to be competitive.

The only difference is he’s got 30% of the shares as he says it.

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mersons coke dealer
mersons coke dealer

This guy looks evil as hell, but i’d take him over $ilent $tan any day.

i want klopp now
i want klopp now

Heck, I find the Wenger story a sad but pretty common one. It’s the story of standing against the tide of opinion and being right once upon a time leading to ignoring dissenting opinions from that that day forward.When Wenger came to the Premier League with his newfangled training methods, Japanese coaching pedigree and new tactical system, he was universally derided. He was right though, football was changing and he was on it’s leading edge. This fortitude, this belief that he was right carried him through that storm of criticism.
Now we come to the present day, that fortitude and belief in himself have become the faults of stubbornness and arrogance. With Wegner, there is only his system, his way, there can be no deviation. His victories of yesteryear poisons his present. He cannot see that football has moved on and left him behind. He blames his defeats on money, on anti-football, anything but his system, his failure to improvise. Because once he triumphed over all comers, defeat teaches him nothing. He has been spoiled by his early success and the way it was achieved. He cannot change with the times so he waits for the times to change back into alignment with him. How long will we continue to wait with him?

kebabsmasher
kebabsmasher

Mistakes you say?? REALLY????

SFGiants
SFGiants

Jabba the Hutt vs. Silent Stan. Now surely that’s a pairing straight out of Hell.

dexterthebear
dexterthebear

Caught between a rock and a hard place

2014-2015 = the year we've been waiting for
2014-2015 = the year we've been waiting for

For me… 2 Category A tickets + outbound train + Match Day program + 2 teas + 2 hot dogs + 1 skittles + inbound taxi… resulted in total expenditure akin to buying a brand-new Xbox One on Saturday. Considering how nauseous both my son and I felt at 2-0 down and even more stomach-discombobulating we felt leaving the stadium after the fulltime whistle, I’d have been much better off watching the match on Sky Sports at home and then playing on our new Xbox console.

There is a reason ticket prices at Chelsea and Manchester City are half the price of Arsenal’s. And if Usamanov taking charge were to result in a ‘normalization’ of our ticket prices, I’m all for it.

F4F7F14
F4F7F14

Stop buying hotdogs and you’re on your way to gaming heaven

kebabsmasher
kebabsmasher

Lifelong fan and father of two lovely gooners… Im with you bro

Podolski's Hastag
Podolski's Hastag

I wouldn’t hold your breath on ticket prices going down. That would go against every bone of any investor / owner when the line of season ticket renewals are 100’s of miles long.

What I don’t understand is why Arsenal are unwilling to adapt. These oligarchs/monarchs are legally investing in the business through loopholes and tactful sponsorships and funding. They are NOT stupid and there are systems in place for sustainable growth after the period of investments. Refer: Man City and their development plan – youth training facilities, hotel / shopping precincts. etc. & to some extent Chelsea’s commercial revenue stream is greater than Arsenals’!

So to sum it up, the original ‘fears’ of these ‘rogue’ investors has been quelled and this is, whether we like to accept it or not, an acceptable model of sports ownership. Yes, there has been failures in clubs in UK & Europe. But that happens even without these foreign investors. It’s the nature of business.

Therefore, let’s get off our high-horses of doing business the “right way”, as there is no “right way”. Just one way or another way of doing business. If Usmanov can write down the debt by converting it to equity / ownership and that frees up money for wages and transfer fee, then what the hell is everyone screaming “foul” about!?

squiggle
squiggle

I wouldn’t. I’m no fan of Kroenke but I don’t want someone like Usmanov to have anything to do with Arsenal, let alone more than he currently does.
I’m sure Kroenke’s no saint, either, but there’s a difference between being a ruthless businessman and being a criminal.

Sol4real
Sol4real

dont worry,when we get out of the champions league and silent stan takes another £10,0000 and you cant attract world class players and you have to sell the once you have to balance the books, you then would know that a ruthless businessman who can ruthlessly get us to where we want is the answer

WengerIn
WengerIn

“there’s a difference between being a ruthless businessman and being a criminal.”

Ha! No, there isn’t.

odd
odd

Law (made by criminals)? Otherwise I’m struggling.

squiggle
squiggle

Usmanov is an eager participation is Putin’s corruption of Russia, in his promotion of bigotry, and in the destabilisation of Russia’s neighbours. He’s been found guilty of crimes and may well have committed other crimes and been protected from their consequences by his powerful connections. Craig Murray paints quite the picture.
As I said, Kroenke is probably no saint but one bad thing is not the same as another bad thing.

odd
odd

Exactly. Or that someone who pulls the plug on a country for financial gain (legally or otherwise) is morally equivalent to some kid who smokes a bit of weed at a party.

squiggle
squiggle

My objection is to thinking that a shoplifter is the same as a murderer.

odd
odd

Don’t mistake me for someone who takes him to be a lovable rogue. My objection is to your statement that the categories themselves are inherently morally dichotomous.

Silent Stan's Content Mustache
Silent Stan's Content Mustache

The more he talks, the less shit I give what he has to say.

Harish P
Harish P

Stan might be silent as hell, but we know what we’re aiming for: a financially self-sustaining club. I know it’s a painstakingly long thing to have dealt with, but with the debt covered it’s just showing good signs on a business level of building up to superclub level.

I like that with Stan we’ve got something like this to he proud of (and even if maybe not now then we especially shall be when we’re at that superclub level) without someone throwing money and giving that temptingly delicious sugar daddy money.

We can talk about that £3m all we want – it’s weird to say the least – but we’re otherwise in a great position as a club, and it shows after 2 seasons of buying top level footballers at extraordinary prices.

Follow the money
Follow the money

Look at Stan’s other clubs. The future looks bleak. Losers

F4F7F14
F4F7F14

How the fuck is this hidden as it is actually thoughtful and not the usual ‘Terry is a cunt’ that everybody laps up… I know how, the computer is making decisions, which is the root of all evil… That and money… Au revoir

hammeringhank
hammeringhank

Absolutely 100% correct sir, too many fickle fans out there that would rather have everything instant ala fast food but doesn’t think of the financial problems that would occur 10 yrs down the line! No one has patience anymore, they want it all and now, I understand AW has lost the plot and definitely needs to get going, but I’m speaking financially not about the actual team itself. Once AW is outta here and we have someone more tactically astute then and only then will it all come together!

zflair
zflair

I’m sorry, but Stan had absolutely no positive impact on Arsenal’s ambition to be a self-sustaining club…

He came in when that vision was already in place, didn’t do anything about the stadium debt to help accelerate and get over the lean years, and when those years were coming to an end, decided to take a bit of spare change for his strategic services.

So yes, we can talk about that £3m all we want.

SG_Gooner
SG_Gooner

He only made PHW rich and contributed not a single cent into Arsenal.

He also baulked or not responded to Usmanov’s suggestion of rights issue, which would have put $$ into Arsenal.

Usmanov over Stan anytime.

Silent Stan's Content Mustache
Silent Stan's Content Mustache

Stan is treating this just like any other sports enterprise of his. It’s all about mighty $$$ for him, everything else is an afterthought.

Fireman Sam
Fireman Sam

Because he’s a businessman you mean? Yeah you’re right, I think he cares mostly about the money aspect to his investment.

Me So Hornsey
Me So Hornsey

What zflair said.

Muse
Muse

If only he didn’t look like Jabba the hutt.

Renoog

In other stating the bleeding obvious news….

Two and a half more years and counting.

Man Manny
Man Manny

If I were a United fan, I would be more worried about the display than happy about the result. The forward line was complete except Falcao. Di-Maria was almost non existent as an attacking force. The less said about Van Persie, the better. History has shown that you don’t get away with such displays often enough to get a satisfying season.
On the other hand, Arsenal’s display showed a great improvement from the beginning of the season and the anger and frustration of playing so well yet losing may just be the catalyst for the rest of the season – may be!
These things happen. No one can explain how Chelsea came away with victory over Barca in 2012. The amount of clear cut chances missed by Barca over the 2 legs was unreal…these things happen.
All I am saying is give Arsene a break! No point counting the years. He may just turn things around. Apart from Chelsea, name a team that is setting the Prem alight; certainly not City or Liverpool or United. Not Sp*rs or Everton. All these teams barr City will finish behind Arsenal this season.
I strongly believe that Arsene will earn the remaining years of his contract.

Sol4real
Sol4real

worried, why should i be worried, they have a manager who is clearly not set in his ways, who does not go into every game with just plan a, this is a man who is trying all kinds of formation to find the right one, i would be patient with him till he finds the right formula, with wenger hell no, every game is like lottery, just play the same formation and hope for gud luck

kampala gooner
kampala gooner

How comes he always waits for when things are on a doward spiral to open his snort

Steve F
Steve F

Bang on man. The only time we hear from this guy is when he feels there is a chance to put a nail in the coffin and spin out something he feels that the fans want to hear. Complete bulshitter

Dan D
Dan D

Because it’s when he’s at his strongest.

He wants in, the Club don’t appear to want that. So he strikes while his iron his hot.

Total common sense from his point of view.

Virginia Goon
Virginia Goon

So we are all within earshot of hearing it. Then the mugs who attend the next match have one more thing to clamor on about. rightfully so, we’ve been abysmal. It’s almost as if every attempt is being made to just bring this great club down.

fresh prince
fresh prince

So basically all the time since about 2005?

Wise Old Man of the Steppes
Wise Old Man of the Steppes

Other famous proverbs include:
“Even man with no legs can be ravaged by mink.”
“Even nail varnish remover will taste good if you drink enough of it”.
“Even economy with no agricultural reforms since 1945 can prosper when oil is over $100 a barrel”

wilson

wenger has lost the plot , its a matter of time and all the fans are up against him. This time its hard to snub the fans. #wengerout

kebabsmasher
kebabsmasher

We all know the board will never sack him as long as we keep getting 4th! And he has made them shitloads of dosh in transfers. Being a tad stubborn he wont walk and will probably see out his contract. Unless things get totally fucked up and nobody wants that surely… Top4?

Ben
Ben

What, and turn out like all the other clubs with problems?
No thanks

Gutbukket Deffrolla
Gutbukket Deffrolla

Who are you to think you can speak for me, and “all” Arsenal fans?

beNZed
beNZed

Trust this horrible fat floater to “pop up” now. In times of crisis, the greasy Uzbek teste appears.

Iceman
Iceman

Because thats what you do as a business magnate. You wait for the opportune moment and go to the press backing the manager, while letting the fans know you are lurking around in the background just in case Kroenke decides to sell up.

beNZed
beNZed

What moderate-able word have I used? Teste? Uzbek?

El Capitano
El Capitano

Unfortunately thats the mordern game.
Unless we match our competitors financially then we aren’t ever going to move forward, with Arsene, or without him.
It doesnt matter if we have Klopp, or Pep or anyone else as Arsenal manager.
Without the investment in the team, we aren’t going anywhere fast.
League title’s are now won and lost in the transfer market.

alexis' shorts
alexis' shorts

Can people just can it about bringing Pep to the Arsenal? What we really need to do is sign Messi and that Mauro Icardi wunderkind

… ffs

Az Ahmed
Az Ahmed

Ridiculous. We don’t need to invest loads. I would go as far as to say we have a better squad than Chelsea except we are missing 3 or 4 players in key positions. We need 2 CBs and 2 DMs. Someone like Pep could easily come in and turn things around with our squad. It is the ineptitude of the manager of a. not buying players in key positions b. not doing a. at the right time, c. not adjusting tactics based on the opposition d. not training the players for key situations – set pieces, finishing, defending.

Red Ed
Red Ed

We haven’t got a better squad than those blue cunts. We might have more attacking players, although that is debatable, but they have a much better balanced team and squad, the filthy blue cunts.

Oly
Oly

Dont kid yourself, this squad in not better than Chelseas

Trez
Trez

Deluded fan you are. bet you also think we have better strikers than costa too

Az Ahmed
Az Ahmed

Sanchez is on a par with Costa

A Gunner
A Gunner

First comment ever posted on Arseblog, long time reader. Your comment is what’s ridiculous, it takes the biscuit as one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read here.

A better squad than Chelsea? Get a grip, man!

This is the problem, some Arsenal “supporters” (internerd keyboard artists) would sniff a dog turd and prefer to believe it’s actually the aroma of hot chocolate wafting up their nostrils! Denile ain’t a river in Egypt!

Az Ahmed
Az Ahmed

At least get the joke right…..

Chelsea have a weak SQUAD, although a strong first team. Costa/Fabregas/Terry get injured – they’re screwed. We have about 10 players ready to play in midfield. Our weakness is defence when we have players out. Our first team defence did pretty well last season. The problem is with Wenger not signing players to compete for each position. You need 2 players for each position to have a strong squad. Chelsea don’t have that.

Trez
Trez

This. i guess it makes them they’re “real fans”

Iceman
Iceman

That is a quite Arsenal tainted glass you are wearing there my friend, but I respect your opinion. We are no way near chelsea’s squad and we can also thank Arsene for letting them have a free run at Cesc (Who we clearly don’t need, despite the fact we are doing the square root of fuck all creatively.)

Az Ahmed
Az Ahmed

Let me put it this way, would Fergie be able to win things with this Arsenal squad?

Az Ahmed
Az Ahmed

Our squad is better than Chelseas or least at a level of being able to win the title, based on everyone being fit, in my opinion. Sanchez is on a par with Costa. Debuchy, Koscielny, Mertesacker, Gibbs, Arteta, Wilshere, Theo, Ozil, Sanchez, Welbeck – and the subs – Ox, Ramsey, Santi, Roz, Poldi etc. Are you saying Fergie, Mourinho, Pep or such would not be able to win the title with this set of players? Even if not, replace Arteta with Bender/Khedira/De Jong/Mascherano or another world class DM, and replace Mertesacker with Hummels or even a half decent back up – Sokratis, Subotic or anyone -My point 2 or 3 three players is literally the difference.

(formerly known as) El Capitano
(formerly known as) El Capitano

I honestly would love to agree with you, but I dont think our team is as good as Chelsea’s.
The table doesn’t lie unfortunately, we dont have the same fire power as them up front, nor do we have the defensive stability.
I think if AW had sorted out a quality holding midfielder and some decent defensive cover, then we potentially might of been able to mount some sort of title challenge, whether or not it would be successful would be anyone’s guess.
But AW isnt a crap manager, its proven what he can do when he has a group of players capable of portraying his footballing vision.
He can go a whole season without losing a game.
The only issue is, he needs a certain calibre of player, and right now, I dont think we have that quality across the whole squad.
Yeh we have a few decent players that show that they have the potential to reach that calibre, but right now, bar Sanchez, we dont have that outstanding class that we’ve had previously to accomplish AW total football vision.
The only way, in my opinion, is to go out and get what we need to be competitive.

BigTA
BigTA

And that United squad is massively worse than ours. Compare the performances on Saturday, then consider that United have just had £150M worth of investment over the summer.

Red Four
Red Four

He did it with that United squad

Was born a Gooner
Was born a Gooner

I like this guy… And I like his Ideas…
But I dont want to be anything like the Chavs or the Sheiks…
Dont want to be spending 50million on the Torres’ of the world…

Oly
Oly

43 million for Ozil, whats the difference

Deano

About 7million and he’s been injured for a bit now. Shame he would have that back three to shreds on Saturday even playing out wide.

Ben
Ben

I’m probably a bit too sceptical to like his ideas.
The way he plays his cards seems too underhanded to be honest.

Dan D
Dan D

Respect your opinion Ben but for me he couldn’t be any more transparent.

Lots of negativity floating around at the moment so he strikes in the press.

He wants to own the club and probably bring Dein back with him.

Don’t know enough about him to pass any further comment however.

Ben
Ben

Yeah fair play! And likewise…
Just working on gut feeling.

Glory Hunter
Glory Hunter

For a long time, a lot of fans were saying Wenger out, but a lot of fans myself included believed that we needed to be a bit more patient.
I accept I was wrong & that the fans calling for Arsene’s head were right.

Likewise the people against Usmanov really need to reconsider their stance, once bitten twice shy.

bims lay
bims lay

iArsenal clearly needs to do something, the present situation is simply not good enough!…..This means more investment.

I dont see anything wrong with Usmanov’s money anymore, if nobody else “better” is giving, then his money is good enough for me…..everybody else is doing it, FFS, why cant we?

When Chelsea or Mancity win premier league titles because of massive capital injections from their billionaire owners, i dont see anybody whingeing about where the money came from

the bottom line is personally?….i dont give a rat’s ass where the money comes from, as long as it affords us the financial clout to buy the calibre of players that we need to be more competitive like our other rivals……i have had enough of this doom and gloom!

Ben
Ben

If humanity lived with that level of integrity we’d be fucked.

Arsenal Mad Since 2009
Arsenal Mad Since 2009

Wish it was Kroenke instead of that sick Americano!

Iceman
Iceman

What infuriates the fans is not that we dont spend 50,60 million a pop on players. But rather the lack of sensible investment in our teams. I swear, I think we might be the only club that goes into transfer negotiations with other clubs for players with a set non negotiable asking price. It’s like we try to dictate the price of the player for the selling club! We like that player. We are offering 15 million and thats it. Not another penny more. Now sell him to us. Who in their right mind would want to sell anything like that? And for all the talk regarding signing 2 world class defenders and a world class DM and top top top quality, most teams nowadays are made up of a lot of players that may be technically limited but they make up for it with their work rate. One prime example is Dortmund’s Kevin Grosskreutz. Not the most flashy player but an essential cog in their system. We do not have players like that in our team anymore. Why? Because Arsene is always looking for that top top top quality! They are loads of players who can do a decent if not world class job for us. We just have to look without our top top quality glasses on.

Gutbukket Deffrolla
Gutbukket Deffrolla

I’m sure it’s nice to have technically limited but hard working players that become an essential cog in a team’s system, but how do you identify that person when you’re in the market for a new player? “Essential cog” players only become that in the context of the team they are in and their interactions with the other team members. You can’t just go out and buy somebody else’s essential cog, because you’re not going to be able to buy all the other players that allow/help him to be the essential cog.

It’s the old “Messi is a great player, but would he be as great in any other team but Barcelona?” thing. Yes, quality counts, but you can never be sure that you will get the same quality out of a player that his previous team did.

Ozil may be an example of that. Apart from the fact that Wenger wants to redesign him as a winger, he may not be able to perform at the level we know he can purely and simply because we are not Real Madrid. His game relies on other players being in the right place to receive his perfect passes. If they don’t get into those positions he will struggle to have the impact we were hoping for, and we will start calling him lazy 🙂

But having said that, I do know what you are getting at. Wenger is obsessed with only buying players who are better than what we already have. Somebody like Joel Ward, as a random example, may not be a better central defender than Koscielny, but he sure as hell is better than an injured Koscielny, and is probably better than Monreal at centre back. If we had bought a Joel Ward in the summer we’d probably not be relying on Monreal to play out of position.

A truly successful team has at least one super-skilled-wonder-player for every position and one young up-and-comer, but also a solid and steady no-nonsense but reliable back up too. That’s what we should have looked for in the summer.

Iceman
Iceman

Exactly. We dont address the fundamental flaws in our team because Arsene has this tendency to always want the fabled top top quality players. I think we might be the only club who have a hard time filling up the 25 man squad quota for the premier league because we havnt addressed it for nearly a decade now. We dont have a sugar daddy like Chelsea to have 25 players on the highest wages. But Im sure we can find adequate players that can contribute to our team. The problem is we dont. Someone like Manolas or Jedinak even though he is a bit old would immensely make our squad better.

mlog oghale
mlog oghale

he is a funny man

palovgunners
palovgunners

Until every department is adequately addressed, nothing is forthcoming

Shere Willpower
Shere Willpower

Usmanov in would be a good way to compete. Wenger to become a board member and a dynamic and tested manager like Jürgen klopp or pep guardiola would do our club wonders.

Bizi

What we need now is two quality CB and hard working AM. (Attacking M) and one best striker

Little Swede In The No.14 Shirt
Little Swede In The No.14 Shirt

when the going gets tough the Hutt gets going

take9
take9

its becoming ridiculously difficult to defend Wenger, i wont go into details about how he failed to buy in the summer or what players i think he should have bought. i have my own favourite players i’d like to see at Arsenal, just like the next Arsenal fan wants his favourites at Arsenal but at least we all agree on the type of players that we need, just not the names. we played really well on saturday, unfortunately when you lose a game it becomes a little difficult to argue that fact but i thought that was our best performance so far this season. as for letting Cesc go to Chelsea, you would swear that Wenger sold him directly to Chelsea. listen people, when Cesc joined Chelsea he was not an Arsenal player, he was a Barca player and they sold him to Chelsea, you cant just buy a player just to stop other teams from having, thats not the best way to run a football club. people say that Ozil is being played out of position and maybe they right, but where would he play with Cesc in the same team?

we lost to probably the worst Man U team we’ve ever played against and that is painful and people have a right to be mad but we dont have to lose all objectivity, sometimes players need to take responsibility as well. when the team wins we praise our players and rightfully so, but shouldnt they take part of the blame when we lose? there’s no excuse missing the chance that Jack Wilshere missed, the Ox should have had a goal as well and Welbeck as well, shouldnt they share the blame with Wenger?

Arseblood
Arseblood

Interesting that the usual invective aimed at Usmanov is missing from Arseblog’s post….
A ‘softening’ I wonder? Bloody hell, we must be in trouble!!

Fatgooner
Fatgooner

Who actually cares what Usmanov thinks? He has absolutely no power at the club, despite his 30% share ownership. And he’s wrong about Wenger: this is not just a case of a good manager making a few bad decisions; Wenger has lost the plot and should go now. Fundamental failures in the management of our club has taken us to this crisis position. Even Arseblog, who seems to be in love with Arsene, acknowledges today that Wenger screwed up big-time in the transfer market last summer.

“But who should replace him?”

Steve Bould should be caretaker manager until the end of the season. Any half-decent boss can achieve a fourth-place finish with this group of players in probably the weakest Premier League in history. At least Bould would know how to set a team up to defend properly and not to concede stupid breakaway goals.

But all this is not gonna happen.

When the injured players come back, Wenger will have just about enough to scrape fourth again, and the greedy American will be delighted.

So we’ll have at least another two more years of this shit.

bims lay
bims lay

lets not overreact……Its never easy to achieve fourth place in this league, try asking Tottenham about it, or Everton, or even Aston Villa…….they’ve been trying to do just that, for as long as i can remember!

moneyball
moneyball

Fat gooner is spot on. How Wenger even for a second can think that he does what is best for the club is absolutely rubbish. He is so stubborn, and strangely enough that FA Cup win is to blame most likely. As that was what gave the old man inspiration to carry on for another 3 years.

I am tired of this bollocks week in and week out, we want a change NOW..

Renoog

I’m in 100% agreement with you Fat Gooner. To be fair yo you, you have been saying this for the last 4 years on here.

Ben
Ben

What credentials have Steve Bould got to manage this club?
It might work but I don’t see that as a better option to what we’re already doing.

SimSima
SimSima

He said caretaker manager. And I agree with him. It will not be hard for Arsenal to finish top 4. Wenger can do that as well of course but the problem is he will view that as an accomplishment when it bloody well isn’t. So ideally he should leave now and that would give the board plenty of time to find a true replacement for next season.
Won’t happen though…

Ben
Ben

No offence to Bould, I rate him highly.
But do you really think he’s going to do a better job of getting us into the top 4 than Wenger – who’s done it consistently for 17 years?

Aside from anything else, Wenger’s not far off smashing fergusons record which I would personally rather see.
Another one for him to make us proud of!

Uche
Uche

Some Arsenal fans are really ignorant and stupid. Any fan that would prefer Kroenke over Usmanov imo is not a true fan. The man says it as he sees it. He is no business man, he is like us a fan that wants to challenge and win trophies. Kroenke is after profits and only looks at the bank statement at the end of every season. He doesn’t give a rats ass whether we win anything or get smashed by top teams. Only fool will praise his financial impact on Arsenal because at the end of the day whatever profit is made is Stans profit nothing goes to the fans. The only thing we get the is joy of seeing our team compete and win trophies. I sense some people would rather Kroenke than Usmanov because of he is Uzbeck which is just sad.

Ben
Ben

It’s not because he’s Uzbeck. It’s because of trust.

Once you sell that club it’s gone.
I’d rather they made the right decision, and nothing about this man has thusfar made me trust him.

Man Manny
Man Manny

Tell us what we don’t know.

Auslaender
Auslaender

Usmanov is a genious. He bought shares at decent prices, has seen them grown in value thanks to the “self-sustained” model where fans put all the money and have zero saying on the club’s direction, unlike Abramovic and the Abu Dabi royal family who have lost millions from their football ventures. Unlike them, he has to take none of the heat for the team’s prolonged mediocrity. He can even come out from time to time and have some fun poking Kroenke by advising further investment, knowing that the chances of the money coming out of his pocket are about as high as Wenger spending it on a defensive midfielder. A shrewd investor if I ever saw one.

Rectum_Spectrum
Rectum_Spectrum

listen if he wanted Arsenal that badly he would make a boig offer to take stans shares. if he ‘loved’ the club as much as he has previously said, he would throw in some cash. he’s a huge shareholder anyway, win/win. but all he does is come out and speak when the club is under pressure. PR.

BigTA
BigTA

In theory, when Wenger steps down (the board won’t fire him), do we think he should retain a place at the club? I starting to think we shouldn’t. Let the next manager start with a clean plate. Those images of Fergie looking right fecked off at the United games last season springs to mind.

SimSima
SimSima

Except for that Russian proverb, what he says makes a lot of sense. However, it’s way too obvious to earn him any fans. Speaking of which, I’m not sure why so much hate is directed at this guy, and more (albeit tacit) love directed towards Silent Stan. A lot of the hate seems really superficial. So he’s fat, and he’s Russian. But he speaks with far more passion that Stan has and ever will for Arsenal. I think if you’re a complacent fan that’s ok with a top 4 finish, then sticking with Kroenke is wise. I think both he and Wenger can get us there year in and year out. But don’t bitch about our stagnation and then go throwing support behind a coach that’s clearly outdated, and a billionaire who could give two fucks about the club.

Mootilated
Mootilated

He may not be the nicest of people, but Usmanov is right here. How can Ivan Gazidis honestly say we have the ambition to be one of the Bayern Munich’s or Real Madrid’s of Europe in the future if we cannot even address obvious mistakes in the now?
If there is something more going on behind the scenes that we do not know about, I feel as paying fans who contribute to everything in this club, we deserve the right to know, good or bad.

David
David

I don’t think we need to spend a crazy amount to catch up to the other big teams in Europe. Players staying healthy would help, but I think the entire world knows what we need: a CB, holding midfielder, and perhaps a keeper upgrade. I really think letting Sagna go (and loaning Jenks out all year) have really come back to hurt us.

moneyball
moneyball

It is getting increasingly frustrating to watch Arsenal games. I mean for sure we all love Arsene Wenger for what he has done for the club. He gave us the stadium, the invincibles and made us to what we are today. We all love him for that. We pay the highest ticket prices in world football, we pay for premium football and get shambes in return. It is increasingly depressing to go in to big games with the feeling that we are not going to win. I am never optimistic against the top-teams anymore. We don’t adapt to any opposition, which has been Arsene Wenger(s) weakness for quite a while.

I think that Arsene Wenger has been an incredible manager for us, but it is really time for a change. It is the same shit happening year after year and it is getting so frustrating it is just unbelievable.

We really need someone with new idea’s… Fans saying otherwise are deluded and clearly don’t analyze the games very well. Everytime we lose it hurts in me, I see deluded fans all the time looking almost in-different. I am gonna be honest, people who believe that Arsene Wenger is the best manager ever and believe he never makes misstake is a problem at this football club. Normal fans wants their team to be successful something that we are not gonna be under Wenger. His tactics are not working whatsoever against the top-teams. We need someone with new idea’s and with a more clear image of who he needs to bring in to strengthen the team. I’d suggest a Jürgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola, Simeone or Ancelotti. Someone who is a big manager that can come in after the season has ended and make us in to contenders again.

As for Usmanov. The main issue is definetly Wenger, not the players who are currently here. Sure we need to strengthen certain positions, some more than others. But we do not need to strengthen every position there is. Besides if he were to buy the club he wouldn’t be able to do anything anyway due to the FFP.

We have good wingers in Santi Cazorla, Alexis Sanchez, Oxlade Chamberlain, Theo Walcott, Serge Gnabry etc. Anyone who says that it is all down to the players being unable to play Wengers system should honestly take a think about it. Most managers would be able to do a way way better job at arsenal than what Arsene Wenger does lately. He has a very good squad. Saying otherwise is just deluded bollocks. And even if that is so: why doesn’t he buy more players? And don’t drag this with the board being greedy again because they clearly have said that the money is there if Arsene Wenger wants to spend.

Angry goon
Angry goon

FFS! Just sign the players we really need and there wouldn’t be any need for this shit talk grrrr!

Oly
Oly

No serious big club Europe will play average/zero international caps, natural no 8 ex-everton average player as their DM. Then have another average AC Milan reject 5’7 as back up, it is scandalous, for a man getting £8 million a year. 1 win in 15 vs ManU, couldnt evev beat David Moyes’s manu, never beaten Morinho in over a dozen matches, 8-2 at OT, ……….too numerous to list here, the man has to go, unless he makes 4 solid signings 2x CB/DM……..Terry/Kompany or Vierra/Yaya like…..

moneyball
moneyball

John *cunt* Terry, No Thanks.

Regardless if he got those players we would probably struggle. I think the main issue is his tactics.

kebabsmasher
kebabsmasher

Remember what happened when we poached the manager of the mighty millwall…

moneyball
moneyball

Arsenal needs a new manager. Everyone love wenger for what he previously accomplished, but a change is needed..

Yank Me
Yank Me

Just saw some news about Mr Kroenke. He has extracted a nice check from the town of Florissant, MO to build a Walmart. He had to work for it this time, and I get the impression that he is very competent at theiving fom the municipal tax pool. Kroenke is an oligarch just the same as this Usmanov fellow. Don’t be fooled by his western name — yes, we English speakers are taught that Easterners practice oligarchy while we do “business.” Kroenke is the epitomy of the American financial oligarchy who have made America one of the most unequal countries in the world. We should worry about his qualifications to run a football club when we see what his class has done to the world economy. The difference between Usmanov and Kroenke is that Usmanov probably knows a little bit about football, whereas your average Yank knows jack. Best of luck. I hope Wilshere is ok.

Ben
Ben

It’s too late now, he pretty much owns it!
Interesting info… cheers.

F4F7F14
F4F7F14

Who knows if this is the right article to post this comment (I’m tired of reading the same thing over and over again), but all I have read for the last 3 days is that Wenger only knows one way to play… Did any of you see the FA Cup final in 2005?

F4F7F14
F4F7F14

Le Prof knew how to park the bus before that twat decided to tell the world he invented Catenaccio.

Jeff
Jeff

I like how the rats come out of their hole when the clubs goes through a difficult time.
Usmanov is so predictable.

Diaby's Hamstring
Diaby's Hamstring

I don’t care that Usmanov looks evil, too fat and too fucking Russian. He talks some sense and shows he cares. Unlike Silent Stan who just stays, erm, silent. On top of that he looks like Avi from Snatch. I don’t trust that man.