Pulis: Gnabry not ready for first team football

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Tony Pulis doesn’t believe Serge Gnabry is ready for regular first team football at West Bromwich Albion claiming Academy matches haven’t prepared the winger for life in the Premier League.

A year on the sidelines, caused by a knee injury, saw the 20-year-old’s career hit a roadblock at the Emirates last season, however, the prospect of regular football this term looked to be the perfect scenario for all parties.

Strangely, the Germany under-21 international has only played 13 minutes of top flight football since moving to the Hawthorns in August on a season-long loan; a state of affairs that has had supporters of both Arsenal and the Baggies wondering what’s going on.

Touching on the situation in local paper The Express and Star, Tony Pulis explained: “Serge has come here to play games but he just hasn’t been for me, at the moment, at that level to play the games.

“He’s come from academy football and not played much league football. Does academy football really prepare players for league football? And we’re talking about Premier League football here.

“As a manager you pick a team that’s going to win a game of football. You pick your best team, you don’t leave people out because you don’t like them, because of this, that and the other.”

To counter Pulis’ argument you might suggest that freezing out a player and claiming he lacks experience isn’t a great way to treat someone who was sent out on loan to gain experience. Alas, it looks as though the ball is very much in Serge’s court right now and he’ll have to do a fair bit to turn the manager’s chav-capped head.

What’s ironic is that with Theo Walcott now a bona fide option up front and Aaron Ramsey, Jack Wilshere, Danny Welbeck and Tomas Rosicky all injured it would only take a knock to Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain before we’d struggle to fill the right attacking midfield position – the role Gnabry excelled in when he broke into Wenger’s first team at 17.

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the only sam is nelson
the only sam is nelson

Presumably at some point, WBA might have asked for the loan? It sounds as if we’ve wrapped up a turd and marked it for Pulis’ attention, the ungrateful ingrate.

Let’s either bring him back to the Arsenal or send him somewhere the manager might understand that pace, direct running, a willingness to work hard, not being afraid to shoot, and having an Arsenal pedigree are actually *quite good things*

Marco
Marco

Not as if West Brom were really succesful under Pulis. Just give the kid a chance and WB might improve, if not let’s recall him and send him to a team who can make use of him.

SB
SB

It surprised me that we were loaning a player to Pulis, given our history with him.

“Not ready to play” he says – then why take him on loan?

With Ramsey injury, it would be best to bring him back, would work well for all parties.

IamaGoober
IamaGoober

Get this lad back off those footballing morons at West Brom before his confidence gets totally destroyed. You can work as hard as you like in training, but if the manager doesn’t like you – you aren’t going to get a game. Plus, Pulis probably hasn’t got a fucking clue how to nuture a young attacking player with bags of raw talent… the tracksuit wearing cunt.

Styles
Styles

Haha, “Presumably at some point, WBA might have asked for the loan? It sounds as if we’ve wrapped up a turd and marked it for Pulis’ attention, the ungrateful ingrate.”

I wet myself laughing at this.

overmars
overmars

Was a big mistake sending him to Pulis’ WBA. Recall him now!

David C
David C

it’s not like West Brom are doing that great. I guess Berahino (sp?) is keeping him out of the lineup?

Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia
Eternal Titi Berg Pat Nostalgia

Yes a mistake. Something tells me we are not managing the academy and loan business too well. Sanogo (difficult to associate to academy) stayed on the bench at Crystal Palace. There were many other cases. We only have a very successful one, Bellerin who got his initial training from Barcelona but who else since Jack Wilshere ? Hope Zelalem will succeed but he looks like Giovanni Do Santos (former Barcelona) who did not make it even with Spurs because of the lack of phisicality and boldness.

Santi's Smile
Santi's Smile

Perhaps situations like Sanogo and Gnabry are why Liam Brady was brought back to observe Arsenal loanees. Regardless, when the club loans out players, would be great to see them succeed so they’re ready to compete and contribute with the Gunners.

Andy Mack
Andy Mack

Sanogo had a fair amount of playing time at Palace but he also picked up quite a few injuries (and it looks like he’s getting them at Ajax too).
Serge probably told Pubic to fuck off when he said he wanted Serge to kick the opposition at every possible opportunity!

ohhhhRockyRocky
ohhhhRockyRocky

Under what circumstances can we bring him back I wonder? If Pulis is being as blunt as that he clearly isn’t in his plans. Better to have Serge training with Ozil and Alexis everyday than with the pile of shite the Baggies have.

I’ve seen WBA this season, they are dreadful, it’s hard to believe the Gnabry who made such an impression when he was given a few games two years ago, wouldn’t improve them.

#ComeHomeSerge #PulisIsACunny

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

Maybe we need a clause in the contract saying he will play x amount of games/minutes. Or at least a gentleman’s agreement that they will be first choice. It might sound silly but the situation is ridiculous. Pulis says he isn’t ready. But we already knew that! Thats why we lent him to you, you pleb!

Dyeruz
Dyeruz

I call BS on this. I watched Gnarby come on during one of the first games and he was a catalyst in turning the game towards West Brom’s favor. Ultimately West Brom didn’t score but he showed inventiveness, tried to run with the ball. In short he tried something different.
Has Pulis ever brought through flair players from any of the academies of the clubs he’s managed? Gnarby is probably incapable as a creative player to stick to a regimented style. He’s literally been taught from the age he started playing football till he joined West Brom to express himself. At Arsenal he’s been taught to express himself now he goes to West Brom and is told to stiffle that natural ability. He probably couldn’t so he’s out in the cold.
Cancel the loan, bring him back, and never ever entertain another offer from Pulis to take any of our kids again.

Rambling Pete
Rambling Pete

It looks like Serge is finding out the hard way that it’s difficult to make the next step in your career after exciting as a young player. We’ve seen it lots of times before down the years but hopefully he can get some minutes under his belt. It reminds me when I started my first job and I had some immediate success leading my boss to praise me in front of the entire office one day. After that I felt real pressure to maintain that standard and it wasn’t easy, especially as Norman Jones became my arch-enemy. I don’t know why he took against me so. Perhaps it was because I was younger and better looking. Perhaps because I was more productive. Perhaps because someone told him that I had French-kissed his wife but I suppose we’ll never find out. He was a bitter man was Norman. I was told by another colleague that he’d once sworn at a lady collecting for charity when she called the door of his house and was so upset she had a heart attack later that evening and died, leaving her children orphaned as her husband had perished in a boating accident just the year before. One of those children actually grew up to be a television presenter beloved by all until it was discovered that he had close associations with Gary Glitter and a basement full of what everyone hoped were animal bones.

Richie
Richie

Aaaah rambling pete, I do wonder how long it takes you to come up with these!
Blogs/Hound are you keeping a record of these? I reckon this own column is called for!

Corona X
Corona X

Own column?! The man deserves his own blog!

ClydeMutua
ClydeMutua

I LOVE THIS RANT

Exiledgooner
Exiledgooner

It’s not a rant, old boy, but a ramble. A completely different animal entirely.

ohhhhRockyRocky
ohhhhRockyRocky

you say boating accident, but we all know that the circumstances were very suspicious.

Chrispy
Chrispy

Very very interesting comment there, Pete. I’m still at a loss as to where the ‘Rambling’ bit was earned in your name. I thought you were bang on point in a post that never once wavered from the subject in hand.

Kahn?Kanu!

I read somewhere WBA has scored the least goals of any team in the league and Gnabry still doesnt get a chance…. Pulis is cluelis! Recall him!

Ralph77
Ralph77

I don’t have anything else to add other than I liked that it rhymed.

Kahn?Kanu!

I also replaced the “ess” in clueless with “is” because Pulis ends with “is”… but that’s just for you scholars out there. 🙂

Gutbukket Deffrolla
Gutbukket Deffrolla

You’re a sociolinguist’s dream. Are you from London, or did you learn the correct pronunciation of clueless (Cloo-liss) by watching Eastenders? (If you did, then I suggest you pack it in right now. What a terrible way to learn about English culture. We don’t do nearly half the murder and mayhem and meaningful staring that lot do. We do do a lot of shagging though).

Anonymous Kumquat
Anonymous Kumquat

Hmm, not sure quite how much I buy that… Pulls seems to have forgotten that prior to his injury, Gnabry was playing first team football for us, and by no means looking out of place. I wonder how much effect the injury is having on him, whether he’s still getting back to fitness and sharpness. Either way, all the best to him, let’s hope he can stay fit and start to deliver on his considerable potential.

SG_Gooner
SG_Gooner

i would rather we take him back and loan him to a decent championship team then, or wherever steve bruce is nowadays…

DanMan
DanMan

If only Owen Coyle was still in England.

ding
ding

or charlton

SuperNova
SuperNova

Rather than blame Pulis, Gnabry should shoulder some. When pictures surfaced, showing he and Theo in training after their long absence, I knew he didn’t take his career seriously. Theo had used the time off to bulk up (gained my respect then), Gnabry on the other hand went on a fat and suger spree. If he isn’t careful, his career will flash before his eyes before he realises the oppurtunity he took for granted. The talent is there, the application? Not so sure.

the only sam is nelson
the only sam is nelson

Those lazy Germans, eh… He’s stealing a living, just like Mesut

SuperNova
SuperNova

Oh Puhlease!! Mesut is a professional.

Gnabry and Chambers both attended the U-20 world cup, only one of them came back two weeks earlier to fight for a preseason spot, this was despite Gnabry sitting on the bench through the competition. Makes you wonder.

Kahn?Kanu!

This pic?comment image

To be fair Theo is wearing skin tight clothes while he has a baggy sweater and bib..

Edu's Braces
Edu's Braces

I’m sorry but it’s a fact that he was completely overweight on his return.

David C
David C

Leave him alone! He was on the Luke Shaw diet.

Gutbukket Deffrolla
Gutbukket Deffrolla

I don’t trust anything said by people who go round clasping tightly to other people’s trousers.

Where are your sources?
Where is you categorical proof?

Show us or I’ll bloody well buy Edu a belt.

Stewart Robson's therapist
Stewart Robson's therapist

He wasn’t able to train for months because of a serious knee injury, and you want to hold him accountable for not maintaining fitness as well as Theo?

ClydeMutua
ClydeMutua

What has he done to our Gnab?

Jack's little finger

Needs games and sadly if West Brom are not delivering, then he needs to be taken elsewhere or brought back to the same academy that made him one of our better players for a short period in the Premier League two years ago. As for Pulis, I like his bluntness but not mentioning that the player has been injured a long time is a tad unfair. All the best to Serge!

John C
John C

The stakes are now so high to stay up in the premier league now it’s very difficult to expect a team like West Brom to take what is effectively a £100m gamble on a unproven youngster.

That said you’d like to think that if there’s an agreement for him to play that he’d do just that.

Gutbukket Deffrolla
Gutbukket Deffrolla

He’s one guy in the squad. It’s not like they were going to drop Messi to give him a game.

goonero
goonero

Fuck Pulis. Gnabry was a match winner for us on at least two occasions becore hos injury lay off and he was well on course to becoming a top player. This is the same blockhead that disgraced English football with Delap and Stoke RFC. It’s of no suprise that he wouldn’t recognise talent. Why did we punish Gnabry sending him over there?

Edu's Braces
Edu's Braces

Much and all as I dislike Pulis he isn’t obliged to pick anyone. Serge just needs to knuckle down and make the best of it. A Pulis team was always an odd choice and that’s on Arsenal. Not the end of the world though, he’s still crazy young and time to recover fully from that injury could be the silver lining.

NYGooner
NYGooner

To me, if we’re going to bring a loanee back in January, it should be Chuba. If the Ox gets hurt, Theo can play there, and then we’ll have several options up front.

NamGooner
NamGooner

Welbeck will be back by then ?

Rooks
Rooks

Oxlade chamberlain not looked much better than gnabry. Serge would have relished tomorrows game.

Joel Campbell's conscious
Joel Campbell's conscious

Pulis is a manager who appears to pick players based on how ‘English’ they are, so to speak. He doesn’t appreciate attacking fullbacks, number 10s or tricky wingers. Not only has he done this with Gnabry who was ripping shit up two years ago, but with Sessegnon, Pocognoli and Gamboa, who have all impressed when I’ve watched them (especially Gamboa for Costa Rica). So if I was Gnabry I would tell Pulis he’s a cunt and move on.

arseblog
Admin

West Brom’s starting XI in their last game:

Englishmen: 3
Northern Ireland: 3
Argentine: 1
Irish: 1
Scotland: 1
Benin 1:
Venezuela: 1

AmericanGooner11
AmericanGooner11

I believe he was referring to their play style, rather than their nationality, blogs

arseblog
Admin

Maybe – but then perhaps this will make him improve his clarity on blog comments that only a tiny percentage of one percent of the world’s population will ever see.

Joel Campbell's conscious
Joel Campbell's conscious

I didn’t say they have to be English, but ‘English’. England is renowned for a certain style of play and pulis is keen to stick to that. At no point did I say he only picks English players, but they all fit a certain style. For example, Claudio Yacob is a take no prisoners type midfielder typically associated with the english game.

Gutbukket Deffrolla
Gutbukket Deffrolla

That many??? Wow, I knew you were popular, but…

LA Gooner
LA Gooner

Pulis doesn’t exactly strike me as a “teacher”. Bring back Gnabry now!

Pass debuchy from the left hand side
Pass debuchy from the left hand side

Recall him in January (if possible) and loan him somewhere like Bournemouth or Norwich perhaps where they at least attempt to play football

indrossi
indrossi

You could make a good argument that Tony Pulis isn’t ready for management at this level.

JJGilheany
JJGilheany

Saw the 11 mins he played (against Everton maybe) and he did look a mile off the pace. Tried to shoot every time and suspect that has cost him. Hopefully he comes back in Jan and gets away from the Troll King.

lordgunner
lordgunner

he need time , he was never going to walk in in the wesbrom team specially after been so long out the game,
remenber wilshere got 1 years of coaching with the Walrus at bolton and he was a great learning curve for him, and Jack wasnt always in the bolton team either

he need to work very hard to earn a spot, he may more talented than most Westbrom player but you dont get a free pass because you re on loan from arsenal.
to be fair i would have loan him to championship side first to gain full match firness before loan him to a PL team

Andre
Andre

Wilshere never played under Sam, he played under Coyle.

Gutbukket Deffrolla
Gutbukket Deffrolla

It just doesn’t feel right when you omit the “Fat”

Jerfun
Jerfun

Actual WBA fan here. Gnabry is a frustrating player. He has skill but rarely beats a man, he has a low centre of gravity but gets knocked off the ball very easily, and has work rate but not going backwards. Pulis is pulis. He likes his wingers to provide as much going backwards as they do going forwards and to play in this position in a Pulis side is one of the most demanding in world football.

Serge is a talented footballer, but he must learn that to be the best you have to sacrifice, and he just doesn’t seem to be interested enough in WBA to make the sort of sacrifices required to play in the most difficult position in a Pulis team. I can understand Arsenal fans frustrations but this is the reality of life outside of the top 4, and it will do him good to learn it.

Trez
Trez

Makes sense. Thanks for the insight.

catbiscuits
catbiscuits

You can tell all that from 13 minutes?

Jerfun
Jerfun

I watched him in reserve games and in the league cup mate

TONY ADAMS PUT THROUGH BY STEVE BOULD
TONY ADAMS PUT THROUGH BY STEVE BOULD

Are we talking about the same Serge mate!

plive
plive

Knew this move was wrong for him, yes he looked a little off the pace against everton, but Pulis knew gnabry’s year out. Pulis came out recently complaining about mclean – I just think pulis isnt the sort of manager who can develop gifted talented youngsters , West Brom’s form has been pants and pulis likes to play long ball football, with a robust game plan, gnabry is going from playing with talented , ball players to another extreme, which can be a good thing as it will toughen him up, but I would rather Gnabry return , stay or go to a championship team who has a manager who knows how to play football.

Pulis didnt produce any skillful players whilst at stoke who were sold on for large amounts, he was relieved of his duties as the players became fed up of playing his style of football – which says it all.

Pulis is a good manager for a team wanting to survive – but not one for a potential star who could be a world beater, which is evident in gnabry as he showed when he did play for us

Petits Handbag
Petits Handbag

Before I saw this, I’m Irish so I’m not just hating on the guy.
But for heaven’s sake,he’s playing James McClean and he’s never been ready for premier league football!

Someone's Something
Someone's Something

Yeah, I don’t buy that for a second. Didn’t that Watford coach say the same thing about Bellerin? And what about that coach at Frieburg and his comment about Coquelin?

Yeah, thought so. Let us take him back and loan him out to a coach who actually knows how to handle offensive midfielders.

gunn cabinet
gunn cabinet

Frankly; I think Tony Pubis is not ready for first team football…

Hal
Hal

eh, let’s not pretend that anyone on this blog knows more about football than Pulis. For all his attitude problems and love of skullduggery, he’s incredible effective at managing football teams and if he says Serge isn’t ready, it might be up to Serge to put some hard graft in

Die Hard Gooner

shouldnt have given him to pulis. should have given him to a manager that plays good football.

Guns&Gooners
Guns&Gooners

Hope he takes a Coq, and being recalled in january, and then lit the premier league on fire. In your face Pulis!

matt
matt

It is difficult to break into a Pulis team. Maybe Serge should reinvent himself as a centre-back, then he could play in any of the outfield positions for Tony

J Arsenal
J Arsenal

There should be a clause in a loan contract for him to play a certain amount of games for a club. If not then there is absolutely no use for it.

arseblog
Admin

No way – no club should be able to dictate to another club who plays for them

Skinnyarse
Skinnyarse

How can you learn from a chav anyway, come home Serg.

Trez
Trez

Say what you want about pulis, he makes a good case.
Serge needs to learn the other side of the game and frankly, there isn’t a better coach to learn from than Pulis. One thing is for certain, he’ll come back stronger and a better player all round if he chooses to take pulis words on board.

PessimistOptimistic
PessimistOptimistic

Gnabry: Pulis not ready for first class players

badaab
badaab

If he’s not going to even get a look in at being around the first team squad at wba, bring him back into the youth setup at arsenal. Should pulis’ comments be accurate, Gnabry needs to learn more, and he’s not going to learn anything from someone who clearly isn’t keen on developing players and would rather spend money on journeyman cloggers so his side remains a mediocrity.

Arsepedant
Arsepedant

Idiocy like this is why Tiny Pubis has never won anything except the 17th place trophy.

Jerfun
Jerfun

an arsenal fan talking about trophies. Oh the irony!

sods_law
sods_law

Chinnappa
Chinnappa

“…it would only take a knock to Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain before we’d struggle to fill the right attacking midfield position.”
Well, Shit.

Andy
Andy

So…any chance we can bring him back with the injuries (read above) to The Ox and Theo?

Alex Partridge
Alex Partridge

You jinxed ox haha