Wenger: There are more goals in Ramsey

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Arsene Wenger says Aaron Ramsey looks more composed in front of goal this season after the Welsh midfielder netted his third in the Premier League to bring up his half-century in Arsenal colours.

The 26-year-old converted Sead Kolasinac’s cut-back to seal a hard-fought 2-1 victory over Swansea; a strike that earned him warm words from the boss who was impressed by the player’s attacking intent throughout the match.

“It’s fantastic,” said Wenger of Rambo’s 50th goal for the Gunners. “When you look at the video of the game again, you see that Aaron Ramsey is always in the box.

“Many times he could not finish but this season he is calmer with his finishing and what he did today will give him more confidence. I think there are some goals in him.”

Yesterday’s goal by Ramsey, his 32nd in the Premier League, takes him above Sylvain Wiltord and makes him Arsenal’s 12th leading league scorer of the ‘since football was invented in 1992’ era.

Arsenal’s other goalscorer, Sead Kolasinac, also notched his third goal of the season when he hammered home an equaliser just after half time.

Granit Xhaka says he’s been impressed by what he’s seen of the Bosnian bulldozer

“We know that Seo has so much quality in attack, just as he does defensively,” Granit Xhaka told Arsenal Player.

“His goal and assist were crucial for the team and we hope he continues to perform like that.

“We make it easy for him, he was accepted instantly and we knew already how strong he is.

“That he’s that dangerous in front of goal, we didn’t see so often in Germany! But it’s going well here in England and we’re pleased to have him.”

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occams hatchet
occams hatchet

Is it wise for Arsène to praise Ramsey attacking and say “it’s fantastic…Aaron Ramsey is always in the box?”

I mean, we need him playing in the midfield against City.

C.B.
C.B.

Or 4 at the back and another body in midfield.

Otherwise ‘more goals from Ramsey’ won’t always mean us scoring the goals.

Bertieme
Bertieme

But Ramsey was not only in the box yesterday. Overall he had a good game. He is not a defensive midfielder but then we don’t have any of those.

clins
clins

we really should free ramsey . i know he is a bit divisice figure amoung here , but i really think he is a wonderful player . not a lot of players scores 50 goals from midfield , that just shows his quality . he might not create lot of chances like ozil . thats because he is a different kind of player , more a goal scoring midfielder and less like ozil . and we should let him play like that , instead of holding him back back. just like delle alli we should let him play little higher or play him in a three man midfield to give him more freedom

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

If we lose Ozil and Sanchez, then let’s at least explore Jack and Ramsey in the 2 no.10s and get a super combative box to boxpower midfielder to play along with Xhaka. Freeing both Xhaka and Ramsey.

clins
clins

i would’ve loved a formation similar to this

lacazette
sanchez, ramsey
kolasinac ,elneny, wilshere , bellerin

or
sanchez,lacazette,iwobi
wilshere,xhaka,ramsey
kolasinac,koscielny,holding,bellerin

Reidar
Reidar

That’s the first suggestion on how to fit Ramsey and Wilshere in a team together that actually looks plausible. Wilshere in Sanchez’ role and Ramsey in Ozil’s. With Lacca, our two excellent wing-backs, Xhaka+Someone as pure CM midfielders that would actually make a balanced team. We really, really need a complete, combatitive central midfielder there though to balance it out though.

I’m also still hoping to get to see Coq and Santi as CM’s this season 🙂

RiP
RiP

I sort of agree… But then it feels like he needs to blow even less of his clear cut chances. What are his finishing stats this season, anyone?
One thing that I feel he’s better at this season is turnovers (again subjectively, stats?). He, Wilshere, Xhaka and Özil generally has a propensity of “falling over” on the ball, without getting anything. (Then leisurely and annoyingly taking a few too many seconds to get up.)
The midfielders who are REALLY good on the ball – i.e. Cazorla – very seldom loses the ball without beeing fouled. A really important defensive skill.

Niall Shannon
Niall Shannon

Ramsey will always get into the positions to score so yes it’s true. Just wished he was more clinical in front of goal since he will miss a few chances in good positions. Still think he’s a great player for us

santori
santori

Its not just Ramsey but the entire forward line can also afford to be far more clinical. We create plenty of chances but conspire to also miss a huge amount.

When we don’t put them away, we leave the defense open to mishaps we are nominally prone to and we let the other side back in it.

Indian Gooner
Indian Gooner

When you look at the video of the game.. he is always in the box!???
Is that Arsene being sarcastic? God knows?

Nordin
Nordin

Arsene doesnt do sarcasm.
That is a real praise.
As such, either we benefit from his position in the box, by scoring.
Or we are opened up like knife thruough butter in midfield, and overwork the 3 defenders behind Xhaka

Martin
Martin

You are actually wrong. Aw probably uses sarcasm more than any other manager. It’s difficult to know if he was being sarcastic in this case as he is very subtle in the use of it.

Shank
Shank

Im very proud of Aaron………brilliant performance again yesterday.

ritabhash
ritabhash

Wenger praising Ramsey saying he is always in the box.
Xhaka might as well get ready to deal with 2 City midfielders all on his own for 80 odd minutes now.

Tanned arse
Tanned arse

Yup, like a red rag to a bull

Vonnie
Vonnie

Why don’t we just get a proper midfielder and let Ramsey fight it out with the strikers for game time? I knew this was going to be said as soon as that goal went in yesterday, never mind that Swansea were running through the midfield unchallenged and Granite and the centre backs were outnumbered time and time again. Ramsey has got to be our most irritating player.

bdotm
bdotm

Pretty obvious he plays according to instructions

ritabhash
ritabhash

Then Arsene might as well get ready for a shitstorm the moment Ramsey’s positioning leads us to concede .
Letting Ramsey move forward with Xhaka as the other midfielder is nothing short of shooting yourself in the foot, especially considering they are our first choice pairing atm

santori
santori

Effectively, we are playing with 1 in midfield in granit.

I think this is the case against sides like Swansea who will encamp a row of 4 and 5 in front of us. Wenger prefers us hunting and adding numbers higher up.

In this instance, in the current 3-4-3 system, one of the Cbacks will push forward next to Granit to make a difference in the middle.

BUT Per has his limitations and knows it and tends to sit deeper.

With Mustafi, we have a more aggressive player who will push up to patrol alongside Granit.

So at present we have a bit too much space around Granit. We are then dependent on the midfield (includes Alexis and Ozil) to watch Ramsey’s run and take turns to cover plus also the wingbacks.

If Koscielny and Monreal cut in to do the job, it leaves us vulnerable to their wingers should the ball get turned over and our wingbacks are caught high.

So its a tricky issue which may need a bit of tweaking and more mature interpretation from Ramsey particularly to suit a more dangerous team in having to sit deeper, bite his instincts to go forward this coming weekend.

Pick your runs very wisely is the watch word.

PFo
PFo

Pretty obvious he lacks the discipline to play any other way (except when we play another big side; then miraculously he is positionally disciplined and switched on defensively).

gunnerdaremkd
gunnerdaremkd

he was beast vs chelsea he stoped their midfiled was desciined and very sound defensevly. We need his runs in the box vs lesser teams but vs the top4 we need him playing exactly like he played vs chelsea. hope and believe tha that is his role instructions given from wenger, make runs in th box and score vs lesser teams play disciplened and protect the back 3 vs the big boys. hope to see that next weekend.

Assistantref
Assistantref

You mean, it’s almost like he gets forward against weaker teams and plays more conservatively against better ones? That moron!

Loose_Cannon
Loose_Cannon

Yeah I don’t think it’s really a debate now, Wenger is clearly a fan of those runs

Rectum_Spectrum
Rectum_Spectrum

There fucking better be with the amount of time he spends in the opposition box.

Huss
Huss

If we lose Ozil next year, I think Rambo is a natural replacement for him in the front three. He may not create as many chances as Mesut – few can – but he can make up for it with his workrate and willingness to play the pressing game. His ability to find the open spaces and put himself in good positions is uncanny – and completely wasted in a deep lying midfield role.

Paul Adedayo Alabi
Paul Adedayo Alabi

Yea, like ozil created chances against Swansea, off-topic, but, ozil shined against a 10-man low morale Everton, the only plus in d game was that he scored, he always goes around passing even when he should shoot. And u say he creates chances, Ramsey is better in his position, and Wilshere is best in dat Ozil role,

PFo
PFo

False.

Dave
Dave

Ozil has created more chances than anyone in the entire league, if we were burying these chances he’d be considered a god

Dholio
Dholio

Good finish yesterday by Rambo. Glad it was a game winner rather than his usual consolation Arsenal 4th or 5th goal late in a game.
Saying that, his conversion rate needs to be better if we are to achieve our goals as s club. He always seems to get 4 or 5 good shooting chances in the box.
We need him to be a Killer in the box!

Danger Mouse
Danger Mouse

@ Dholio..Yeah if only he could, I dunno, score the winner in a cup final or something…

PodB
PodB

Or two even …. City will be quaking in their pink boots for our visit. Saed will tear Kevin De Browneye a new one.

santori
santori

There are a lot of potential goals for Ramsey.

His instinct is to attack the box. He constantly gets himself in great positions. If he (and the others) converts more chances (which we should), we will finish off the opponents before they can gain/regain confidence and negate our propensity for lapses at the back.

Whether he is the right partner deep in midfield next to Granit is of course a different thing.

OTOH I don’t feel we play with too much rigidity. Unless we have to play tougher opponents, we seem to give free reign to Ramsey to push forward leaving only (the ill suited/defensively) Granit in a sort of American quarterback role.

In a more disciplined role next to Granit, Ramsey can also be an asset but he has to restrict his better instincts.

There are several options next to Granit.

Jack presents the other side of the Santi equation we have been missing in his absence.

Whilst Granit replicates the deep passing/quick release ability, Jack is one of the only players in the squad (if injury free) who can waltz through the middle carrying the ball at feet.

His issue is sustainability.

Another option may be to play Coquelin if he can find better balance with the 3-4-3 system. Since (at least) one Cback is available to join Granit higher up, Coquelin can thrive in his better role pushing forward and hunting the ball down aggressively.

The third option unexplored IMO is to see if Iwobi can play deeper. his issue is inexperience but the lad is strong, has excellent ball control and an eye for a slide rule pass.

There is also of course Elneny but I feel the Egyptian is more industry than capability altough push come to shove, still a handy card to have on the bench. To be fair to him, his long range distribution has also improved which gives us some back up to the critical Granit.

Finally Santi. We don’t know when he returns but he is perhaps the most complete asset for us in the deep lying area.

IF we find other solution deeper, Ramsey IMO will thrive better further forward.

BUT all options should be available to play as we continue to find some sort of workable balance in midfield.

Against City, we will have to be extra cautious. The space around Granit will be heavily exploited by their nimble attackers. I’m almost leaning toward a 4-2-3-1 formation change with a more permanent watchdog like Coquelin in the middle to watch runs next to Granit. We may not be as adventurous with the wingbacks but caution may have to prevail away from home against a very strong side.

Or Ramsey has to be very discipline and not venture as far up. We’ve seen this time and again when he played with Coquelin and before Flamini.

With Flamini, Ramsey held well start of the season through to Feb when we were deprived of some of our heavy hitters. He stayed discipline next to the aging French asset. BUT ironically when the ‘better assets’ returned, we dried up in front of goal. Ramsey tried to make the difference venturing further forward and we paid a heavy price with a couple of lob sided defeats as Flamini got terribly exposed.

At present we are still too open if Ramsey does not sit deep enough against a top team (remember the Liverpool match). Whether this lesson has been finally taken to heart or whether Wenger persist with the more cavalier/open approach at detriment (again) remains to be seen this weekend.

Assistantref
Assistantref

You are often praised for your brevity, aren’t you?

santori
santori

The thing about Ramsey’s position is its the most interpretive.

More than any other position, it needs maturity and discipline but also intuition to know when to push forward and add numbers critically and when to adopt caution and stay deep.

BUT its not only beholden on Ramsey to cover the space around Granit.

Its a team effort which also involves the other mids (Ozil, Alexis) to watch his runs and be prepared to cover AND the wingbacks/Cbacks.

There’s no easy solution. If we want to reap the benefits of free style unpredictability going forward, we need the discipline of having our head on a swivel constantly to watch and cover for the players making those runs.

Teryima Adi
Teryima Adi

Sead is our own Incredible Hulk.

Shire Gooner
Shire Gooner

He’s definitely a cut above the other wingbacks at present. Looking at that list of Arsenal league goal scorers makes you appreciate how lucky we were to have Robert and Freddie in the team at the same time. It’s no coincidence that when they left so did our form. If only Hector could get closer and block crosses when defending like he used to we’d be halfway to a decent pair that can both attack and defend.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

“When you look at the video of the game again, you see that Aaron Ramsey is always in the box.”

That’s a major reason for our midfield woes is it not? The fact Wenger is pleased confirms Ramsey is just playing to instruction.

Lord Bendnter
Lord Bendnter

I like his finish against Swansea. But I’m not keeping my hopes up. Gotta stay real.