Arsenal 3-3 Liverpool – player ratings

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Arsenal looked like they were going to get battered, then looked like they might pull off an incredible win, but ultimately let Liverpool score another equaliser because that’s what we do when we play them.

We had 4’40 of decent football, but the rest was rubbish really. Here’s how the players rated tonight in the 3-3 draw with Liverpool.

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Anony
Anony
2 years ago

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’m going to repeat this. I watch Arsenal with my heart clenched in my fists. I would give anything for Arsenal. When I see an Arsenal player fail to show that same level of committment, I instantly despise them. I can’t help this. Unfortunately for my health, Arsenal just means that much for me. I absolutely despise Alexis Sanchez. I understand why he feels delusioned at the club and has given up but at the end of the day I’m an Arsenal fan not a Sanchez fan. Anything he does wrong… Read more »

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

I feel bad for Iwobi as I really like him, but always been a bit miffed at the hype or him making. He never looked the one most likely at academy level.

I suspect it’s because he’s such a Wenger player. He’s a quintessential Wenger midfielder; pass and move, jack of all trades master of none, can play in almost any midfield or forward position but not excel. Doesn’t shoot unless its a very high chance in the box, etc.

Bill
Bill
2 years ago
Reply to  Faisal Narrage

I think 8-9 times out of ten his first touch is incredible, he is just not decisive enough after that with either his running passing or jack of all tradeyness

Sqbe
Sqbe
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

Agreed with Xhaka and Sanchez. Both should be dropped. Show balls, Wenger. If you have any.

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

Agree with you, apart from Kolasinac. Wenger has sat him on the bench to teach him a lesson for not tracking back when we are countered. It has been a few times that we conceded from his side of the pitch (including Southampton). There’s something about our players not tracking back. It’s like they’ve been told not to track back. It felt so so good to see Jack overtaking AMN and putting a block to the cross near the box (at the end). We feel like they’re doing us a massive favour when they track back in counter attack. They… Read more »

Gary Baldy
Gary Baldy
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy+Enfield

Maybe the use of the word ‘ despise ‘ and ‘ turd ‘ ? Also, I think Xhaka to suceed needs a CDM behind him. that ios to say, he is not being utilised in the most efficient way for his style. Of course, you could say that is the hallmark of the current Wenger reign. Then again. that is how Wenger has often worked with palyers, giving them different roles to the ones they are accustomed to. The trouble being that not everyone adapts like Thierry Henry did. Is that the managers fault for not realising that or the… Read more »

Michael Bolton Wanderers
Michael Bolton Wanderers
2 years ago
Reply to  Gary Baldy

You can’t accommodate a player as poor as xhaka, it won’t improve the team much. He’s still gonna play poor passes, make bad decisions and run slowly.
Xhaka is nowhere near as good as viera, Fabregas or cazorla. It won’t matter the formation

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago

I agree. Xhaka isn’t someone who is world class you accommodate. He must isn’t fast or quick enough against well organized pressing clubs. He can’t play against them consistently. Its apparent when you see him tracking back. He is soo slow.

Julian+Gooner
Julian+Gooner
2 years ago
Reply to  caligunner

Xhaka’s only strength, nice looking passes, are only possible when he has time and space and only with his left foot. Any pressure and he gives it away cheaply.

Flashman71
Flashman71
2 years ago

Absolutely spot on. I think it is time for many arsenal fans to really wake up when it comes to xhaka and stop this oh it’s not his fault type defence e.g he not utilised in right way by wenger or we are not getting the best out of him with set up or system or he needs another player in there with him to cover him or mop up for him etc. Or look at his high passing statistics and completion rates or touches of the ball. It’s cobblers it is absolutely meaningless. Any of us who have played… Read more »

Tom Thumb
Tom Thumb
2 years ago

We’ve never replaced Fabregas.

dawn
dawn
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

Agree about Sanchez!

kaius
kaius
2 years ago
Reply to  dawn

I find it absolutely ridiculous that people are writing seven-paragraph comments detailing how bad our team is without a solitary word for the man that chose to start to the season with this squad. Wenger deserves a statue outside the Emirates. He doesn’t deserve to be treated like a novice manager in his 2nd season where we excuse all his mistakes and blame his players instead. After the United defeat he said “I feel personally responsible, the team should not get the blame.” He gambled that Ramsey/Xhaka plus Wilshere/Elneny/Coquelin would form a good enough central midfield. He gambled that Cech… Read more »

Michael Bolton Wanderers
Michael Bolton Wanderers
2 years ago
Reply to  kaius

You can’t say that unless your a manager with 20 year’s experience

kaius
kaius
2 years ago

I’m a fan with 27 years experience of supporting Arsenal. I can say he deserves a statue outside the Emirates even if he’s not doing a good job right now.

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago
Reply to  kaius

In fairness to him for this season. Ram/Xhaka was solid in the last third of the season. So going into this season I wouldn’t have had a problem with that duo as the starters. Now tactically is a different story. There is not growth to Xhaka game like the last 10 games were a mere fluke. Your right the backups wasn’t something I was to keen on. Again I think there is so much poison in the air about him that whatever he does if it isn’t spot on then he gets blamed for everything. I justdon’t think thats fair.… Read more »

PFo
PFo
2 years ago
Reply to  caligunner

His failure to make a change to shore things up when we inexplicably went 3-2 ahead was amateur hour. Any decent manager in world football would have made a sub and/or switched things up tactically at that point.

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago
Reply to  PFo

What change could he have done? I could see him replacing Xhaka-Coq or Iwobi-Welbeck-Walcott but there was roughly a third left in the game.

Tactically I just can’t see us absorbing pressure for 30 min do you? Thats asking alot for a club built to attack.

I don’t know if you consider Klopp decent but he didn’t change anything up going up 2-0.

Riku
Riku
2 years ago
Reply to  caligunner

Yes, klopp didn’t I would have brought on elneny to sit in front of the defence for iwobi and gone 4411, with ozilthe one behind the striker. That said at the time I was too busy smiling and celebrating to make a sub.

PFo
PFo
2 years ago
Reply to  caligunner

Are you really so dense? Does tactical-shift-to-be-more-solid necessarily equal absorbing-pressure-for-30-minutes? How about (just picking one randomly out of the air here…) Coq for Iwobi? Klopp probably should’ve switched things up, but then they didn’t look remotely vulnerable until we scored the first goal (on the contrary, they looked like they were going to win the game about 4-0) and the remarkable rapidity with which we scored our second and third (helped out a lot by keeper incompetence) barely gave him a chance to make a decision before it was too late. By contrast, we spent pretty much the entire game… Read more »

haarish khan
haarish khan
2 years ago
Reply to  kaius

Tooo many Gambles for a Manager in his 21st season at the club.

High+Plains+Gooner
High+Plains+Gooner
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

Generally agree, but piss off with the Koscielny slight. Not up to par these past few games, but he has been one of the best CBs in the league for ywars in spite of the efforts to completely leave him exposed on defense. “Mentally broken”? He has an Achilles issue and shouldn’t be relied upon to anchor the whole defense AGAIN, but to act like he is somehow wilting under pressure is AFTV levels of unnecessary disrespect.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage
2 years ago

Worst thing I see the Achilles issue was created by Wenger; who went into the season with 3 CBs even though he knew Kos had the issue due to overplaying him the season before. We kept him on injections to survive. Terrible man management.

A Different George
A Different George
2 years ago
Reply to  Faisal Narrage

Koscielny, Mustafi, Mertesacker, Chambers, Holding. Monreal with experience as a centre half. You may think they’re all crap, but it’s not three, it’s five or six.

Adrian
Adrian
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

I’ve been pretty disgusted with Sanchez’s attitude this season. Coutinho wants to go to Barca but still, he busts a gut for Liverpool. As for Xhaka…the guy cannot pass! And, he clearly has no idea of his actual role in the side. As for Kos, the guy has been very poor this season. Not helped by the lack of defensive cover from the midfield.

A Different George
A Different George
2 years ago
Reply to  Adrian

I wish people would think about what they are saying. It’s perfectly reasonable to believe that Alexis has been awful, but I cannot see how anyone can think he has stopped trying. What did you *see* (not imagine) that makes you think Alexis is not working as hard as Coutinho?

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

I agree about Xhaka. I can’t figure out what kind of player he is. I don’t want to build a MF around him. I think he is as others have mentioned too slow and not quick at all. Can’t tackle. Can’t position himself correctly. Midtable or lower table is fine but against top clubs or organized pressing clubs it needs to stop. I think you bought into the hype of Bellerin and thats not fair to him. He’s only 19 not world class. He’s going to have a learning curve. He is only 22 still learning the game. Yes he’s… Read more »

PFo
PFo
2 years ago
Reply to  caligunner

Having a great first touch and being able to dribble in tight spaces is an incredible asset, and not something you can teach a player in his twenties. Nor can you teach the physical athleticism and power he has. You can teach a player how to be more composed and make better decisions around the penalty box. Iwobi has huge potential, but he’s stagnated a bit. Wenger and his coaching staff is failing him at the moment.

goonshow
goonshow
2 years ago
Reply to  PFo

You also can’t teach laziness and lack of commitment or selfishness… so that’s all young Alex’s own doing and not the ‘coaching staff’. Talent ain’t enough at his age… I watch him carefully every time he plays (see my previous comments on this) and he is disgracefully lazy and self-interested: NEVER puts in a tackle unless the player is right on top on him; NEVER tracks backs; strolls around on the halfway line whenever we don’t have the ball and only bursts into life when we’re going forward, glory hungry for a run… seldom lays it off when near the… Read more »

Third Plebeian
Third Plebeian
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

I don’t understand the point of Alexis and Iwobi. They make us worse. Wenger has no idea how to assemble a team.

Eyob
Eyob
2 years ago
Reply to  Third Plebeian

Actually, Wenger’s greatest asset as a manager is his know how how to assemble a team. No manager has assembled decent teams from scratch time and again as much as Arsene only to be dismantled by the transfer markets. It’s just that his current team lacks balance and chemistry.

Mick Malthouse
Mick Malthouse
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

Anony – spot on. Show most of them the door and start again with a new manager. Our positional play was embarrassing.

Flashman71
Flashman71
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

Absolutely right about xhaka (worst midfielder seen at arsenal since early 80s to slow for prem, bundesliga or swiss 1st division player at best bloke would struggle in championship let alone pace and intensity of prem top flight and as for iwobi reminds me most of the time of a kid on the playground just running around he overpings his passes all the time and can’t strike a ball properly. Our greatest problem is that we basically just don’t have enough top top players anymore (2 or 3 maybe) whatever system or setup we play most of us can see… Read more »

A Different George
A Different George
2 years ago
Reply to  Flashman71

Yeah, those Bundeliga players, they’re not up to the quality of the English game. You know, like De Bruyne.

Flashman71
Flashman71
2 years ago

Good point, apologies meant in terms of general tempo, bundesliga as a whole is a slower league and therefore xhaka’s snail like movement and thought processes were more suitable etc. Shame xhaka wasn’t de bruyne.

A Different George
A Different George
2 years ago
Reply to  Flashman71

From the (relatively little) I have watched of the Bundesliga, it does not appear to me to be significantly slower-paced than the Prem. It’s not Spain or Italy and I think Aubameyang or Lewandowski would do fine on an English top-four side. In fairness, I don’t often see German matches that don’t involve the top teams.

Santi\'s Thigh Grab
Santi\'s Thigh Grab
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

To be a competitive side challenging for the title, we need players of quality and a manager that selects the right squad and deploys them tactically. We have neither at this point. Players I would keep fin the first 11 include Monreal, Lacazette, Ozil, Holding & AMN. I would be looking for 6 new top players for the remaining positions. Squad players I would keep who have an opportunity to break into the top 11 include: Wilshire, Mustafi, Czech, Bellerin, Macey, Iwobi, Giroud, Eddie, Nelson, Willock, Kola, Chambers. Players that need to be shipped: Sanchez, Theo, Dat Guy, Coq, Xhaka,… Read more »

Feng Sports
Feng Sports
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

I don’t know why Lacazette has such a low score. He was constantly making runs along to be picked out.. He deserves at least a 7.5

Anony
Anony
2 years ago

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’m going to repeat this. I watch Arsenal with my heart clenched in my fists. I would give anything for Arsenal. When I see an Arsenal player fail to show that same level of committment, I instantly despise them. I can’t help this. Unfortunately for my health, Arsenal just means that much for me. I absolutely despise Alexis Sanchez. I understand why he feels delusioned at the club and has given up but at the end of the day I’m an Arsenal fan not a Sanchez fan. Anything he does wrong… Read more »

Anony
Anony
2 years ago

Unbelievable. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I’m going to repeat this. I watch Arsenal with my heart clenched in my fists. I would give anything for Arsenal. When I see an Arsenal player fail to show that same level of committment, I instantly despise them. I can’t help this. Unfortunately for my health, Arsenal just means that much for me. I absolutely despise Alexis Sanchez. I understand why he feels delusioned at the club and has given up but at the end of the day I’m an Arsenal fan not a Sanchez fan. Anything he does… Read more »

Anony
Anony
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

I don’t know what a Granit Xhaka is. I don’t think he knows either. Play Maitland-Niles in midfield and bring Kolasinac back. I don’t care if we lose, I just can’t see that turd of a player mucking about in midfield anymore. Easily one of the worst transfers we have made in the last 7 years. Jack Wilshere gets a 9.5 for me. He did all the dirty work in midfield. He matched Salah and Mane for pace on many occasions and besides Ainsley was the only player who battled out there. This meme about Bellerin’s hair needs to stop.… Read more »

Donovan Ricketts
Donovan Ricketts
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

He’s gone from top 3 player in the league last season, to literally the worst this season. I understand that he’s unhappy and wanted to leave, but talent can’t desert you that quickly. He just actually be trying to play badly. In which case, fuck him.

Really really pray he gets sold on 1st Jan for whatever pittance we can salvage – then sits on the bench at Citeh for 18 months before heading to Grenada or something more fitting. Was going to suggest something about a cruciate injury, but that might be taking it too far ☺️

Alexstratz
Alexstratz
2 years ago

One of our players just scored the first crucial goal to get us back in the game and you almost wish him injury. Nice.

A Different George
A Different George
2 years ago
Reply to  Alexstratz

Sometimes Arsenal supporters can be as blind and as stupid as those for other clubs.

GoonerJust
GoonerJust
2 years ago

Citeh would think twice to buy alexis at the current form. He will become a $400k/week-forward that disrupt citeh’s fluid play with his desire to dribble around.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage
2 years ago
Reply to  GoonerJust

I don’t think Guardiola will cater to him like Wenger does. He will coach him and instruct him and if he doesn’t doesnt comply, he’ll get benched.

A Different George
A Different George
2 years ago
Reply to  Faisal Narrage

Really? I see Sterling–though much better than he was before–still making incredible mistakes in judgment, horrible first touches, and abysmal crosses–and starting every match. In many of them he, eventually, scores a goal. Perhaps (just like Wenger) Pep does not think talented players are automotons who need to “comply,” but wants them to create.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage
2 years ago

Sterling is 22. Whats Sanchez’ excuse?

A Different George
A Different George
2 years ago
Reply to  Faisal Narrage

My point is that Guardiola is much more like Wenger (and Klopp) in his attitude towards players than you recognise. On the other side are Mourinho, Conte, and, with less talented sides, managers like Pulis.

goonshow
goonshow
2 years ago

You’re right. It IS too far.
And that’s all you’re right about.

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield
2 years ago
Reply to  Anony

I feel your pain mate

Hank Wankford
Hank Wankford
2 years ago

Fuck knows anymore. Anyone?

Primipare
Primipare
2 years ago

Wenger had been saying it’s psychological for quite some time. If so, it’s on him, and him only. Alexis needs to go ASAP. Poor professional. Xakha needs to go ASAP. Poor player. Would be a good start for January

Greg
Greg
2 years ago
Reply to  Primipare

Strongest team mentally he’s ever had but a bad game a few games ago and they are done for still

Little Mozart
Little Mozart
2 years ago

I enjoyed it.

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield
2 years ago
Reply to  Little Mozart

If you did, then you’re not a Rosicky fan, but Kane fan

Big fred
Big fred
2 years ago

Captain jack man of the match for me. Last home game for Özil and Alexis hopefully time to move on

Primipare
Primipare
2 years ago

Not always obvious which side Alexis plays for. Afc or their opponent

dawn
dawn
2 years ago
Reply to  Primipare

It’s obvious to me – sanchez F.C. – first and foremost!

Truthteller
Truthteller
2 years ago

You gave wilshere a 6 .. had Ramsey played as good as wilshere you would of gave him atleast a 7. Cheh was at fault for firminho goal and could of done better for the goal against salah.. it’s clear which players you prefer.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage
2 years ago
Reply to  Truthteller

I wanted to say this but got a hard time last time for doing so. There is a clear difference in blog’s bias between jack and Ramsey, I feel.

Stringer+Bell
Stringer+Bell
2 years ago
Reply to  Faisal Narrage

Can you imagine Ramsey sprinting back in 81st minute to clear up lose ball. Not in a million years. He only needs to do one good thing in a game to get a good (great) report from blogs ?

Levonson
Levonson
2 years ago
Reply to  Stringer+Bell

Even when he’s not playing stringer? Never change mate.

JazzyFizzle
JazzyFizzle
2 years ago
Reply to  Faisal Narrage

Let’s not start cracking on about biases. Most of us have been following arseblog long enough to know that Blogs is a pretty good reader of the game. I do think Jack was really good today and deserved at least an 8. But, as has been said, player ratings are subjective.

As a team we were pants today.

PFo
PFo
2 years ago
Reply to  JazzyFizzle

On bias: the idea that Bellerin, who was mostly terrible (apart from one good cross), got the same score from Blogs as Ozil and Wilshere is laughable.

ach
ach
2 years ago
Reply to  Truthteller

It’s funny because the opposite is also true. I like how people blame ramsey when xhaka playing like shit but when he is paired with jack, everyone agreed that xhaka is shit and need to be sold.

Ross
Ross
2 years ago

A bit harsh on AMN I thought he had an excellent performance against arguably the best player in the league right now. Really mature, never dived in and his passing was snappy.

Steinn
Steinn
2 years ago
Reply to  Ross

Agreed, I thought AMN was excellent. Didn’t do much in attack but many great defensive moments and his passing was precise as always.

Gunnerelite
Gunnerelite
2 years ago
Reply to  Steinn

I did enjoy AMN’s display as well, to the point where Salah even switched over to our right with Mane trying to target AMN, but even Mane was taken off

ronaldo
ronaldo
2 years ago
Reply to  Ross

he,s not the best player in the league

Gandalf
Gandalf
2 years ago
Reply to  Ross

Oh come on. He did as well as he could, but was exposed on the ball and defensively, especially first half.

I’m not knocking him, the blame goes to the manager.

Tyler
Tyler
2 years ago

Iwobi seems to be the latest in what is becoming an alarming number of players to regress under Arsene Wenger. How many (often young) players now have started with such promise, only to sink to the realm of mediocrity (or worse)? Teach them! Jazz might be dead.

Cool Papa Bellerin
Cool Papa Bellerin
2 years ago

I thought it was Bellerin’s best game in a while. He was the least culpable of our defenders, tracked Salah and Mane down a few times, and played a tasty ball for Alexis’ goal.

Pretty much everyone else needs two separate ratings, one for the glorious 5 minutes in the second half and another for the shower of shite before and after.

PFo
PFo
2 years ago

For what it’s worth, I thought he was mostly awful. He seems to have completely lost his pace, and he gives the ball away far, far too often.

Cool Papa Bellerin
Cool Papa Bellerin
2 years ago
Reply to  PFo

Maybe, I might need to watch again. I’m mostly remembering specific moments–a good tackle from the ground in the first half, a few long sprints to close down Salah and Mane, the cross for Alexis, and a decent shot to force a save from Mignolet.

The fact that he had a few bright moments and wasnt really at fault for any of their goals probably qualifies it as his best game in a while, given the poor form he’s been in.

A Different George
A Different George
2 years ago

I thought Bellerin has played much better the past couple of matches. Obviously, he’s more comfortable as a fullback than a wingback. It did not help him that Iwobi was playing in front of him. No one will believe me, but Hector was at his best when Walcott played on the right and (this is the part no one will believe) used his pace to track back and help cover that side of the pitch.

Ricardo
Ricardo
2 years ago

I agree with you on the bonus rating.

Neutrals can say it was a fun, not Arsenal fans. I was furious. It really ruined my weekend.

Not as much as it would have 10 years ago though, Arsene has engrained that in me with his teams.

Gary+Baldy
Gary+Baldy
2 years ago

Maybe it was just me, I thought AMN 30 had a really good game, and the fact that both of their first two goals came when he was caught too far forward was no coincidence. I thought he kept Salah reasonably well sheparded with help from Monrael and Xhaka. Can’t say much about their third as I was down the other end and then missed the stadium replays. Still a good prospect and did better than I dared hope before kick-off ! Surely start Welbeck ahead of Iwobi so we can at least have some width. We are in need… Read more »

Stephen
Stephen
2 years ago
Reply to  Gary+Baldy

He doesn’t need to come to terms. He needs some some bloody service.

Maniac
Maniac
2 years ago
Reply to  Stephen

Agree 100%. Lee Dixon said it best – “Lacazette needs to go and introduce himself to his team mates at half time. Hey guys, it’s me, the one with the number 9 on my back”. It is absolutely infuriating for me that we have a truly world class striker in the team but are completely failing to utilise him. Gets no service whatsoever, runs around like a madman trying to win the ball back, makes great runs but is never found and is clearly highly motivated to score (apparently not yet indoctrinated into the culture of mediocrity here at Arsenal).… Read more »

eternalflamini
eternalflamini
2 years ago

Loving what Özil is doing at the moment. Sanchez…. wtf, such a hard player to assess. So completely shit and makes the team so much worse for his wasteful presence and yet score such a crucial, crucial goal.

Matty
Matty
2 years ago

Iwobi starting I don’t understand, he Is simply not good enough. But strange decisions from Wenger is now the norm

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago
Reply to  Matty

I don’t disagree but who would have started instead? I would have preferred Theo in a game like this knowing Liverpool were going to go end to end and press. He could at least punish them with his pace on quick counters. Only reason I wouldn’t pick Welbeck is he is clinical enough on the finish and at least Walcott can be.

BW9
BW9
2 years ago

Came here all the way from America to watch the game. I almost cried during our 5 or 6 minute goal fest. Best 6 minutes of my life, just ask my wife ;). Yes the result wasn’t the best but pls fellow Gunners don’t take for granted what you lot get to come see each week.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage
2 years ago

Thought Jack was great. That pass he made to Ozil was class.
But outside of that, nothing I can say that hasn’t been said before. Team is a tactical shambles. Only Wenger would build his entire midfield on no.10s then surprised at them being defensively naïve.

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield
2 years ago
Reply to  Faisal Narrage

?
That’s what I thought after final whistle. Wenger has the same philosophy as Pep (if I ever could, I would play 10 midfielders as outfield players)…
But with an extremely bad tactical plan. We realistically, have no proper professional defender at AFC… And that’s a FACT!

Man Manny
Man Manny
2 years ago

Why is Alexis getting off so easily? At some point tonight I thought he was deliberately ruining the game. If Kolasinac is sitting on the bench for no obvious reason (apart from maybe the change in formation), Alexis should be benched for the next game; he could have been in a liverpool shirt actually. 40% pass completion rate in the first half says it all. Iwobi had another poor game, game filled with aimless running into blind alleys, poor passes and loose marking. One thing is clear: Arsene has truly taken this team backward. This bunch is not even up… Read more »

dawn
dawn
2 years ago
Reply to  Man Manny

Absolutely disagree with your comments about Arsene! But Sanchez spot on!

Matt+P
Matt+P
2 years ago
Reply to  dawn

His comments about Arsene are entirely fair. Our once great manager is past it, is tactically naive and seems to be unable to inspire his team on a regular basis.

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago
Reply to  Man Manny

Kola is being benched because he wasn’t tracking back and making poor decisions in the last 2-3 matches.

I don’t disagree with Sanchez but I wonder if his bad passing and possession is based on us knowing its his last season. Has he always been this loose with the ball and bad passes?

Iwobi isn’t a starter sad to say. Nice guy but not good enough at this point.

gooner71
gooner71
2 years ago

Unhappy to watch Jack not clobber Saleh in the Liverpool half and instead run alongside with him as Saleh glided in for an easy finish past a poor attempt to stop his shot.

podb
podb
2 years ago
Reply to  gooner71

With the whole Arsenal supporting world yelling “just hack the bastard” … our ”defenders” have to be ruthless.
Alexis is woefully out of form, didn’t celebrate his goal, looked like a spoiled child on the bench with a dud Xmas present when he was subbed. Got to go. Soon. Keep Mesut, get Draxler and Van Dijk. Then kick on.

Clay
Clay
2 years ago
Reply to  gooner71

Don’t you dare blame Jack, he is the flavour of the month /s.
I though him and Xhaka were very poor, I actually missed Ramsey.

IceBerg10
IceBerg10
2 years ago
Reply to  Clay

Then you’re an idiot

Olivije Zirou
Olivije Zirou
2 years ago

If you want to win Liverpool you need to keep a shape and if not you are finished. We were lucky not to lose game in the first half. The biggest worry is the lack of communication in the team. Wilshere was heavily involved with two of our goals. What was he thinking for the 2nd? Why did he left tracking Salah for Firmino if both Koscielny and Mustafi were already on him? Also involved in the third goal for letting Firmino but Koscielny should also do better there. Another great example of naivety is the last Salah’s chance. 3… Read more »

Olivije Zirou
Olivije Zirou
2 years ago
Reply to  Olivije Zirou

Wilshere was heavily involved with two of Liverpool’s goals*

Alexstratz
Alexstratz
2 years ago

I like blogs realism. There’s no such thing as entertainment when you don’t get the result to go with. Winning is fun. Losing points not so much.

MarinPK
MarinPK
2 years ago

For once I really disagree with some ratings. Especially with Maintland-Niles, while I was skeptical he was quite impressive, the first goal is a conter-attack so we should not be too harsh on him, after that he did very well against Mane, kept fighting, won a decent number of balls (with much less fouls than Kolasinac), and I loved that tackle at the 93th. I also think that Koscielny wasn’t that bad, he was very exposed and a bit unlucky at times (as on the first goal), but there would have been much more chances for Liverppol without him, Nacho… Read more »

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago
Reply to  MarinPK

I think in a weird way Theo would have been perfect for a game like this. It isn’t like Iwobi did anything great defensively that Walcott who seems very motivated to prove himself couldn’t do. With the lack of defensive cohesion that Liverpool have Theo with his pace and finishing ability could have exploited it better?

QMantis
QMantis
2 years ago

It’s so frustrating seeing the same kind of poor disorganised weak displays littered with individual mistakes over and over. The balance is always wrong and players clearly out of form not benched. We lost the first half 0-2 but won the second half 3-1 With the only change….a proper cb playing as a cb. Why not just start with your best defence and play your form players in their proper positions. Squeezing in your favourites just fucks it all up. Why not get the whole team organised at 3-2 to park the bus be professional and see out the game… Read more »

Steinn
Steinn
2 years ago

I can’t handle anymore of Granit Xhaka. Sure, he does have his moments (his pass to Özil for the third goal for example) but what a frustrating player he is. Needless give-aways, poor tracking back (Coutinho’s goal anybody?) and just lack of any penetration in general. At this point I would pick any of Coq, Elneny or AMN in front of him.

dawn
dawn
2 years ago
Reply to  Steinn

Xhakas goal anybody?

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago
Reply to  dawn

Just because you score a goal doesn’t absolve the player and his faults.

Bertieme
Bertieme
2 years ago

Poor for the 70 minutes Liverpool dominated. Everyone to blame. The defence is poor. No cover and LK absolutely shocking. The midfield is completely ineffectual, and that includes JW.

Fireman Sam
Fireman Sam
2 years ago

Sanchez voted our worst player again. How times have changed. Sad to see. I have NFI what he thinks he’s doing.

ronaldo
ronaldo
2 years ago

ten out of ten for jack

Jamie
Jamie
2 years ago
Reply to  ronaldo

They can thumb you down all they want, but only because they know you are right. JW looked great today. He also put in a stellar defensive shift.

Indian+Gooner
Indian+Gooner
2 years ago

There was a very long spell in the first half when our players just couldn’t spot their fellow men in red and it almost looked like they deliberately passed it to the opponent wearing some shitty fluorescent.Looked like all our players had either gone colour blind or had totally forgotten the basics of passing the ball. That is how bad it was! It was a terrific come back from where we were. But it definitely was not a performance that we could all be proud of. A lot senior players in that team are in the waiting queue for a… Read more »

Gary Baldy
Gary Baldy
2 years ago
Reply to  Indian+Gooner

There is a very real and good chance they got confused and thought they were Arsenal Stewards . . . that is the only explaination I and those around me could thing of . . .

Matt+P
Matt+P
2 years ago

I am a Jack skeptic, but today I thought he was very good. A 7 or 8.
I also thought Ozil deserved a 7.
We were pretty bad today – lucky not to lose.

Big+Sheezy
Big+Sheezy
2 years ago

I feel terrible for badmouthing squillacci all those years ago. Apparently he was set up to fail.

Matt+P
Matt+P
2 years ago

Iwobi was awful – a 3 for me. Xhaka was bad too, even with the goal I wouldn’t give him more than a 4.5. Sanchez and the central defenders very poor too.

Gary Baldy
Gary Baldy
2 years ago

Also, we don’t seem to have options for players to pass to. Sanchez loses the ball regularly but a few times not only he but others had no options and got tackled or crowded out . . . hardly their fault if noone offers themselves. we need a proper CDM to hold the ball when we break and to break up the opponents moves. We need a proper winger. Tonight’s problems, and previous bad performances have been down to, in part, these issues, regardless of being a back three or back four. If Wenger wants Xhaka in the line up… Read more »

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago
Reply to  Gary Baldy

Bellerin is the only one that tracks back consistently to help. I think everyone believed in his hype and have him pigeonholed as this world class player at 19? he wasn’t he just burst onto the scene and because Barca wanted him back even put more hype on him. He’s still growing as a player. I think MD is good also but I can’t see him doing well against a team like Liverpool how high presses. Imagine how slow the defense would have been with him and Xhaka and JW on the pitch.

goonshow
goonshow
2 years ago
Reply to  caligunner

Completely agree. Having the a player as lazy and uncommitted to any form of defending as Iwobi in front of him puts him in a hopeless position.

BigArse
BigArse
2 years ago

Koulibaly, Koulibaly, Koulibaly, Van Dijk.
Koulibaly, Koulibaly, with him our defence might be less shite.
David Luiz, Johnny Evans, Sol Campbell, my wife.
With one of them in the the defensive centre we might really be a bit less shife.

(Set to either my darling clementine or o Christmas tree. I know it doesn’t really scan but what do you want? This is Arsenal.)

Charvakan
2 years ago

If you can’t have fun watching a game like today’s, no matter who you support, you’re not the football fan you think you are. Sorry. But that was an exciting game. We had some really nice spells outside of those 5 minutes, too. Alexis is completely undisciplined and has poor judgment lots of times. Yes, he gave the ball away many times, AGAIN. But the guy scraps for every ball. It’s not just the 50-50s; he goes for the 20-80s and wins some. He contests headers with guys a foot taller and it sometimes works–like the Ozil goal against Newcastle.… Read more »

Cristian T.
Cristian T.
2 years ago

I feel that we are lacking al least two things: work rate and tactical awarness. Let me tell you why: 1. Let’s face it: we have an average midfield for EPL. Our midfield should be doing much more defensive/offensive work in order to support our defenders/attackers. E.g. See how we conceded our second goal and our first half attacking. 2. When I say tactical awarness I am thinking especially at our first half. It is not possible at this level not to be aware of a counter attack or to be completely dominated at home. Overall positioning was a joke.… Read more »

Lance Banner
Lance Banner
2 years ago

Let’s have Jens as manger for a year and whoever is left standing can stay and start the rebuilding.

Xhakalaca
Xhakalaca
2 years ago

Dropping Iwobi for Coquelin in the 4-3-3 will at least help us in defending better

Monkey knees
Monkey knees
2 years ago

Think most of the ratings are harsh.

caligunner
caligunner
2 years ago

Xhaka. I really don’t know what he is and the idea of him in a midfield 3 or getting a proper DM for him to play off is crazy. Why would you build MF around him? He isn’t world class. He had a goal today and give him props for that. Overall he can’t play against quality high pressing clubs. His back to the defense he isn’t quick enough with his hips to turn and pass and move forward. He takes a split second to long when he does against quality pressing clubs and cant function that he can get… Read more »

meneam
meneam
2 years ago

When wenger leaves us at the end of his contract he will leave us a terrible situation.. this team has no spine. and with sanchez leaving and maybe ozil too it will be just a team of average players.it will be hard for the next manager

Lula
Lula
2 years ago

Well that was a shit show. Enjoyed Wilshere, Lacazetta and Maitland-Niles’ performance. Sanchez – I just want to leave. I’m so sick of watching him lose the ball. I don’t care if we can’t compete without him. Although I think there are players out there. Ozil – I have more time for but for what he is asking I’m happy for him to leave. Want to watch us have to grit and savvy. Maybe I’m just projecting. We need something new. That said, we didn’t get hammered. And now its the holidays. Have a good christmas, everyone.

Espen
Espen
2 years ago

Whats wrong with Kos? The decline of his quality in defense is a little hard to take in such a short period of time.

Huss
Huss
2 years ago

I guess the big question is: what are we? Manchester City’s performance this year has masked an otherwise lackluster league this season. ManU is blah. Chelsea is blah. Liverpool is probably 2nd best with that attack, but their defensive struggles are well documented And then there’s us. We’re really not good, and we have too much talent to be bad. But we looked really, really bad for decent stretches of this game. It was just sad. There doesn’t seem to be any coherence to the attack. We are entirely reliant upon an Alexis Special here or an Ozil Pass There… Read more »

Stephen
Stephen
2 years ago
Reply to  Huss

We’re the fourth or fifth best team in the league. At best.

AusDrexler
AusDrexler
2 years ago

I think the comments about Iwobi could reflect on the whole team at the moment.

Alex
Alex
2 years ago

I enjoyed it and I don’t apologise

Emmanuel Chukwuma
Emmanuel Chukwuma
2 years ago

The irony of this arsenal team is that though we had a great come back and led 3:2, something was telling me that we were going to concede the equalizer and we did!

Paul Smith
Paul Smith
2 years ago

Feel a bit sorry for Iwobi. What position is he playing? He looks lost and low on confidence but he’s not being helped by being asked to play a role he clearly isn’t used to and doesn’t understand. Is he supposed to be a box to box midfielder now? Feels like we are wasting his best attributes using him the way we are…also we still get no service to Lacazette and this formation is so narrow anyone can defend against it

Matt
Matt
2 years ago

We need to sell Sanchez this window. He is on the decline.
City is now best option for me, as the way he is playing he would make them a worse team.

yen
yen
2 years ago

17 goals conceded in last 5 games against Liverpool. We haven’t learned anything. Part of me is baffled that those miraculous 5 minutes allowed Wenger to get a free pass and not be held accountable for what was disastrous at times over the remaining 85 minutes. 1) Cut the AMN left back experiment Don’t get me wrong, he was one of our best players last night. As AW said after the game, his recovery runs combined with the ability to not make stupid fouls is great and as I said earlier, I understand the idea of giving youngsters an out… Read more »