West Ham 0-0 Arsenal – player ratings

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Arsenal dropped two more points with a 0-0 draw with West Ham. That makes it just 9 points from an available 27 on the road so far this season.

Arsene Wenger’s team selection certainly raised some eyebrows before kickoff, and it’s hard to say it worked particularly well.

Here’s how the players rated tonight.

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Matt+P
Matt+P

6.5 for Jack, quite right Blogs.
Like I said elsewhere he was good-ish, not great like some seem to think.

IceBerg10
IceBerg10

Bollox……. Just pure bollox

Mein Bergkampf

He did a lot more than any other player on the field to be combative, take the game to the opposition and create in the final third. It didn’t always come off but I think he was the one shining light tonight in a foggy and muddled performance.

nacho man
nacho man

what exactly did he create???
il tell u
sweet fuck all as usual

Araj
Araj

Wasn’t he the best among a shitty bunch though?
He tried to play faster, was mobile, made runs into the box and often stayed deep to give some protection to Xhaka as well. Had the best pass success rate among the forward players, most tackles and most interceptions after Monreal.

GoonerJust
GoonerJust

I would blame the manager, he just don’t know what to do anymore, well since 5 yrs ago I guess. A functioning board with true football ambition would hook up Pep, look at his team 🙁

Matt
Matt

Other big clubs can have a season like this one that we’re having once every now and then. Our problem under Wenger is that it’s practically the same every season for the past 10 ones. Am not asking to change the manager every season, but his time,”s up now.

nacho man
nacho man

he was rubbish and missed an absolute sitter

Dan Hunter
Dan Hunter

It’s time for the players to down tools and get rid of this manager. We have been living on a life support machine for years now. It is time to cut the cord..

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield

I’m Wenger-out but that’s stupid thing to say. Players duty is to perform to their best abilities day in day out, for the employer (AFC) and not get involved in politics. It’s because of the players getting involved in too much of the politics with each other that we are making teams like Stoke (when Sp@rs – in bad run- put 5 past them), Watford and Southampton (Leicester put 4 past them), look like Barcelona and Bayern Munich.
With our Board of Directors having only one target (to increase their profits) even if we get relegated, Wenger will still be in charge (Unfortunately!)

Harvey Keitel
Harvey Keitel

Honestly I think if he had scored that chance we would be talking about his game as a whole in a very different way.

MannyG
MannyG

Yikes

Et tu Mesut
Et tu Mesut

Koscielny’s last few performances have been really disturbing. He seems to have gone from one of the best CBs in the Premier League to inconsistent and error prone in a matter of weeks…

Chris
Chris

They’ve definitely been cause for concern, but I’d say a few sub-par performances don’t change anything: he’s still a great defender and we’re lucky to have him. Really the club are doing him no favours playing him week in, week out, on a dodgy achilles. I don’t know the extent of the issues, so I’m only presuming to an extent, but surely common sense would dictate he needs more time off than he’s getting.

Whatever happens, we need a CB – again. Mustafi’s very hit and miss; Koscielny’s not getting any younger; Monreal struggles in a back four; and Arsene seems so hesitant to deploy Chambers, Mertesacker and Holding.

So that’s a new CB, new GK, new CM, replace Ozil, replace Alexis, tie Ramsey down, and sell the deadwood before next September. Grand. Hopefully a new manager while we’re at it.

Pete
Pete

lol, one of the best left backs in the PL? What drugs are you smoking. He’s bang average and always has been. The amount of rickets this chump drops in big games is horrendous. He’s ok against the garbage teams, but when push comes to shove Koscielny has been found out again and again and again.

Drogheda gunner
Drogheda gunner

He is quality.just the centre midfielders in fro t hang the centre backs out to dry,if we had kante ahead of them kos would look world class.

GooneRaP
GooneRaP

He is always error prone. Nobody other than we gooners rate him as world class.

caligunner
caligunner

He’s one of the best CB in the league. All players are error prone the only problem I see with Kos is that he hasn’t had a fit partner for quite some time now. Of course he is getting older and his achilles isn’t helping him.

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield

Well, apparently not all are error – prone…
Mustafi, Xhaka, Coq, are not tolerated by us fans. Soon as a mistake occurs, we rip them apart…
Against Man Utd, Koscielny was directly culpable for 2 goals and most people on here were tearing Mustafi up and ignoring the fact that Koscielny started the rot and sealed it with the third goal

Vernazza
Vernazza

Clueless. It looks you know nothing about football.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Probably reading too much, but something tells me blog are gone be extra harsh on jack, possibly as an antithesis to love for Ramsey and not liking how some fans are weirdly happy he’s injured.

Its faint praise but jack and AMN were our best players.

caligunner
caligunner

They did get high ratings. They deserve it. I would say along with Ozil they were the best but thats it. What is the problem? Always with your conspiracies lol

ArseByName
ArseByName

Need to add rating for team performances with the Bristol Stool chart

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Joel Tyler
Joel Tyler

Should have made changes at half time, was clear Giroud was not going to get a sniff in that game. We were poor last year and now this year our best player in Alexis is playing woeful and our two signings are left out so we can’t expect anything else than these toothless performances.

Zach
Zach

When was the last time Arsene made a change at half-time?

GiddyForZelalem
GiddyForZelalem

6.5 for Wilshere is extremely harsh, 7-7.5 at least. That miss was bad but his overrall play was impressive. His quick passing, breaking through midfield pressure was great. He suffered for an end product because it was practically impossible to pick out a good pass with practically no forward movement into the box.

cazorla\'s fun \'tude
cazorla\'s fun \'tude

Yeah, agreed. I just can’t understand what is the point of us doing that weird shit in the second half of every game, we put 3+ players standing on our opponents defensive line. It is just so inexplicably stupid. How are you supposed to get through that defensive line which has not 5 opponent players + 3 our own players? How is that supposed to help us? What we just lack is our striker dropping deep and our CM-s making runs behind. Every time we start to do that, we start creating chances. And every now and again we just forget it and plug all the little cavities in the bus that’s parked in front of us by ourselves.

Ben
Ben

He gave AW 10/10 for trying by changing to a back four, which made no difference what so ever. Wilshere tries to make something happen, makes no difference and he gets a 6.5…

Nameless gunner
Nameless gunner

No shit.. Manager was more like a spectator.. could have brought in Kolasinac to deliver for Giroud.. it’s very frustrating to see our players try to score the perfect goal hitting onto Giroud and for him to flick.. We had no runners and most of the time we played before their back five.. If Sanchez gives up playmaking (what gave him that idea) and runs behind occasionally it would atleast create some space..

Olivije Žirod
Olivije Žirod

Well the only good crosses in the game were from Niles.

caligunner
caligunner

Lol right. Take off the best crosser of the game for a guy who is struggling.

Maniac
Maniac

Pretty generous ratings to be honest; that was a chore to watch. Only upside was that AMN put in a very respectable performance – probably one of the best crossers of the ball at the club!

Et tu Mesut
Et tu Mesut

Don’t worry. He’ll forget how to cross soon enough.

Araj
Araj

Yeah.
And what do we do with crossers? play them on their weaker foot of course.

Araj
Araj

You are being gracious with the 2/10 for the manager on how he did the changes. This was like someone going through the squad and blindly replacing starters with players that “might” be able to play the role.
Against a West Ham team which we knew would sit deep, play on the counter and hit long balls, we played with zero width and made it worse by playing the most static of our forwards up top. Then again you can cross to him but our left back was a right footed central midfielder so no early crosses from there. Sanchez is no winger and he absolutely never crosses early from the left. Neither is Iwobi who basically played as part of the midfield based on how far inside he was. Why play Giroud with this team and why play this team with Giroud. On top of this, the manager played a converted LB at CB who is definitely not a CB (in a back 2) and definitely not good in the air. This against a team we knew would play long.
How does any of this make sense?

PFo
PFo

This. Nailed it.

With all those technicians out there we needed to play “small ball” (apologies for the basketball metaphor) with a mobile technical CF, and lots of clever movement and quick passing, just like we did to repeatedly open up Man United. Instead we play an immobile target man. I’m not Giroud’s biggest fan but it was obvious we needed to play to his strengths with width and crosses. Instead we were as narrow as we’ve been for ages. And our two “wide” forwards, Iwobi and Alexis, have shown in the past that they CAN stay mostly wide and take on their fullback, but instead they both played like inside forwards or midfielders, clogging up the space for Jack and Ozil. Does Wenger actually give them ANY instruction at halftime????

Uncle Con
Uncle Con

I love that “small ball” metaphor by the way

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield

Exactly. At half time Wenger was too busy picking his nose

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield

I understand why Wenger started with Giroud. Without him, we desperately lack height and West Ham have got some tall players (ie Reid, Antonio etc). That’s not what I berated Wenger for. What annoys me is, that he starts with tall Giroud (arguably the best header in PL) and allowed Sanchez and Iwobi to come inside all the time. Not only that over congested the areas where Giroud operates, but ( and there’s a massive BUT) that takes Giroud out of the game completely. If you don’t cross, what’s the point of playing him, to begin with???
Wenger should have told Sanchez & Iwobi to stay at the respective corner flags and trying to stretch a dense West Ham team

Greg
Greg

We’re drifting. There is no improvement and there hasn’t been for years. Very sad that an old man with nothing else in his life is too scared to walk away for the good of the club

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield

Great sentiment

midgunner
midgunner

Thought Wilshere was decent. A shame that chance fell on his right foot.

I felt we had the same problem we usually have with this formation, no width, everything far too narrow and easy to defend against. Our attacks, unless it’s on the counter, are so predictable and one-dimensional.

Oh and what the hell has happened to Kos? If he’s injured he shouldn’t be out there.

PFo
PFo

It’s not the formation per se (Man City also play 4-3-3 and their attack’s not suffering from a lack of width at the moment). It’s the personnel and how (if?) they’re instructed to set up. Eg I’ve seen Iwobi function very well in the past as essentially a winger, dribbling at his fullback, but tonight he insisted on coming deep and too central, clogging up the space Ozil and Jack were trying to work in.

Amusa
Amusa

0/10 for Wenger bringing on Welbeck before Lacazette.
And keeping our best finisher on the bench for 80minutes.

caligunner
caligunner

Exactly what I was thinking when he finally brought on Laca for Sanchez. Why didn’t he just bring him on earlier before Welbeck. I love him for his overall game minus the inability to score consistently but we needed precision at that point with them playing so deep.

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield

The old man can’t seem to find strength to put Sanchez on the bench. No matter how bad he plays, no matter how many counter attacks he initiates for our opponents (by losing possession), no matter how self indulgent tw@t Sanchez is on the pitch…
Wenger always guarantees him a start, and that’s a fact!
The Chilean has become bigger than the club

kongokim
kongokim

i hate my life. thanks arsenal

NiallMitch14
NiallMitch14

Will agree with Lacazette. Should have been on much earlier. Around the same time Welbeck came on

Third+Plebeian
Third+Plebeian

You mean, instead of Welbeck. Honestly, I would have been happy with Lacazette + pretty much anyone but Welbeck coming on. When you need a goal with 20 minutes remaining, the last thing you do is put on a player who needs about ten presentable chances to score one.

IceBerg10
IceBerg10

This pro Ramsey anti everyone else agenda on this blog reminds me of the last days of Chemical Ali…….Wilshere was by far the best player on the pitch and deserves a higher mark, better first touch than Ramsey displayed today, better close control, apparently had 34/34 successful passes in the first half to the point where West Ham had to resort to fouling him…Ramsey has been good the last few weeks…but Wilshere is so obviously a class apart

Chris
Chris

So much of what Arsene’s doing these days just feels plain strange. The lineup, the system (or lack thereof), the substitutions… I didn’t really get the sense at all today that we had a plan.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

Biggest issue imo is lack of movement up top and no one getting anywhere close to Giroud when he knocks it down. Best chance came when we finally got players around him but we only managed it once. We also do this strange thing where our wide forwards rarely get in the box and when they do, rarely take shots. I think that’s partly why Sanchez’ form has dipped so much, he’s not doing nearly enough off the ball. Finally, the lack of movement in general is maddening. Everyone was so static and the passes so slow for most of the game. Wilshere seemed like the only player that managed to pass AND move, easily our best today but it’s not enough.

caligunner
caligunner

Ozil, Wilshere and AMN were good today. This is when I’m sure all of us wishes Ramsey was healthy. At least he would have made the runs in the box from the Wing position. Unlike Iwobi who would never make the runs in the box, drift in central getting in the way of Wilshere and Ozil. Hardly track back. Why was he even starting?

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

Tbf I thought Iwobi had a good first half, and I like how he takes people on but he needs to get in the box more. Faded badly in the second which is a concern, the silver lining for him is that Welbeck came on and was somehow worse..

PFo
PFo

I like how he takes people on too, but he essentially wanted to do it as part of our midfield three whereas we needed him to do it from wide right. Plus little to no combination with Bellerin (what’s happened to Hector??).

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

Exactly that

Grumbleduke
Grumbleduke

Missing a spark like Santi in the team. Need someone to make that cheeky final pass.

PFo
PFo

No, as much as I love Cazorla and as much as we miss him most games, I don’t think it was down to a lack of skillful midfield players tonight. We had a ton of technical players on the pitch, our buildup play from our third to theirs was actually quite good, Wilshere and Ozil both had good games.

The problem was complete ineffectiveness around their box, which wasn’t down to the inability to play a final pass, it was down to not having enough clever runs to pass to. Without Ramsey, with the immobile Giroud instead of Laca, and with Sanchez and Iwobi both insisting on playing deep and narrow, constantly picking the ball up at feet rather than running in behind, we were always going to struggle against a packed defense, with or without Santi on the pitch.

If we were going to play Giroud, we needed to exploit the wings and cross the ball (plus get runners in around him for knockdowns; here’s where we missed Ramsey). Alternatively, we should have played Lacazette from the start, and yelled at Alexis and Iwobi to play as wide forwards, not midfielders.

Santi Clauzorla
Santi Clauzorla

I was okay with Giroud starting after he’s been on a bit better of a run than Laca has in recent weeks, but with Alexis and Iwobi providing little dynamic to our attack we looked so one dimensional going forward. It was evident we needed runs in behind or some way to stretch their defense but it was never happening. Does anybody else think Alexis and Laca play well together and Welbz and Iwobi seem to play well together? I’ve thought this for most of this season so was confused why we played all of those players, yet not together…

freduardo
freduardo

watching that game tonight, the one footed nature of our whole team really stood out. It made us so predictable, show Mesut on his right, show Alexis on his left, Xhaka has no right foot and takes an age to turn and pass backward on his left when his forward option is (easily ) cut off.

Welbeck was just awful.

Oh for a Cazorla!

QMantis
QMantis

That was so painful to watch. You could clearly see the team was not functioning properly, side to side slowly going nowhere and still Wenger sat their watching the clock tick tock away. Iwobi looked dead on his feet, sanchez! Even cech started miss punching balls it’s horrible watching the panic attacks that spread throughout this team like kos playing a blind pass across the box again. So many really poor moments spread throughout the team.the only plus for me apart from AMN and jack was somehow keeping a clean sheet.

Michael Bolton Wanderers
Michael Bolton Wanderers

We are boring arsenal

Dawn
Dawn

You’re boring!

Crash Fistfight
Crash Fistfight

You’re delusional.

I AM ARSENAL
I AM ARSENAL

Should try dropping Bellerin next game and try Niles at RB and put Kolasinac back in. Bellerin in particular should be under huge pressure from Niles..The only thing Bellerin had is pace and Niles looks nearly as quick and from what i have seen better in all other categories of being a footballer.

Sanchez looked like one of those key ring trolls with the crazy hair when he was finally put out of his misery and pulled on 80mins..Its 3 games to late but you did it eventually Wenger…You subbed Alexis…Lets see if you can sit him on the bench now. Sick of him right now Even getting more work rate out of Ozil at the moment.

The fact that Niles a young makeshift left back and Wilshere just back in the first team despite his miss were our standout or not as shit as the rest performers is worrying.

Brian
Brian

AMN and Jack were easily the best players on the pitch for Arsenal today. Ozil not far behind.

Edzo
Edzo

Need a,goal and put on welbeck rather then our best goal scorer. At least welbeck didn’t trip over the ball or swing and miss so well played to him.

Understand the need to rest but Lacazette could surely have played longer than 8 minutes.

We go to Southampton and make them look like man city. Leicester play them and make them look like Southampton.

We finish 6th or 7th. The rot continues.

Trez
Trez

Giroud should never have started this game. We’ve seen time and time again that Giroud – Alexis don’t work well together as Alexis likes dropping deep to often and Giroud can’t run in behind.
Why Wenger subbed Alexis off I’d never understand.
We need 2 new CBs. Kos is done as a world class player. He’s been making these mistakes lately but it goes under the radar because it’s him.
Looks like we won’t be making the top 4 again. Hope Wenger gets sacked this time around. Enough of this mediocrity.

GooneRaP
GooneRaP

Koscielny is never a world class player.

caligunner
caligunner

Maybe Kos needs a solid partner? That can help. He is getting up there in age and that achilles doesn’t help.

Yes OG should have started. Its unfortunate that our manager doesn’t emphasize playing through him by whipping crosses into the box for him to take shots or knock downs for other players to take their shots.

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield

Tree Mate.
If you don’t understand why Wenger subbed Alexis (which should be benched until February), then you’re not clued in football. I bet you thought getting rid of Adebayor was wrong!?
Agree with you on Koscielny and Wenger-Out though

Axel
Axel

Its so weird…. last game sanchez tried about 90 million crosses into the boxes… giroud starts doesnt even attempt 1 …

Dawn
Dawn

That’s because he’s a jealous prick!

Billy+Enfield
Billy+Enfield

Exactly!!!
Now we are beginning to figure Sanchez out. He has stopped playing for Arsenal FC since January 2017.
But people are so biased towards him just because he runs (not any different to a fella that runs in the park)

AFC4EVER
AFC4EVER

That’s what I noticed last time we had Lacazette in the box, who is short next to Southampton’s defenders and Sanchez kept on crossing the ball then Giroud comes on and he switches to ground crosses except at the very end of the game which allowed him to score. That means he knows what he’s doing! A player of his caliber cannot be unaware of this! I think success has gone to his head and he’s pushing for the club and the fans to be ok with his upcoming departure.

caligunner
caligunner

Exactly!!!

WTF is wrong with the team when they make decent crosses when OG isn’t on the pitch but once he enters they forget how to?

Wolfgang
Wolfgang

Keown said Wenger’s days are numbered. Well.Well. It shd have been years ago.His possession football and patient approach aint going
to work when teams park the bus.
He may have many shots at goal but if you dont score you don’t win.
I am afraid he has been unable to adapt to the changing football
landscape and must ultimately pay the price like so many other managers
who have been sacked.

ItSanogo-al
ItSanogo-al

Uninspired performance from an uninspired team

Goldencannon
Goldencannon

I don’t understand the number of left footed players complaint. No one complains when they’re mostly right footed.

freduardo
freduardo

i think it was the weirdness of the guy playing wide left (AMN) being right footed in a team of left footed players.

ArsenalManitou
ArsenalManitou

So, in a dog fight for fourth with second and third not out of the question with a good second half. And we have the advantage of Europa league qualification for next years champions league. No one but City from our league are going to be european champions. City are winning the premier league in all but the most fantastical of parallel universes (which I daydream about all the time, 15 points back in second place with seven to play and City drop 11 and then face us in our rescheduled penultimate game where we win with a 94th minute Giroud header, and then they draw the final game having two players sent off and we go on to win the Europa league and beat City again in the FA cup final, a week before they win the champions league etc…).
In any event what is the solution here? More clinical strikers than Lacazette and Giroud? Better playmakers than Ozil? Steven Nzonzi? Better luck? New manager? I have no idea. No bullshit, I really don’t.

PFo
PFo

More tactically astute manager (and one who’s better in the transfer market).

Pete
Pete

Wenger started Giroud cos he’s been moaning about wanting to go out on loan in January. Player power is owning Wenger big time. He refuses to drop Sanchez and Ozil, even though we all know they’re leaving anyway. Now he’s playing Wilshere for the same reason. It’s not about football anymore, it’s about a clueless deluded old fart completely lost and out of his depth. A sad end to the Wenger horror show. His history will have to be completely revised, e.g. won a load of trophies due to GG’s back five, bang average middle tier manager for 15 years after.

James
James

There is no fire. Not even any smoke! Compared to Mank City or Chelsheat, I see only as warm-up match approach. At least fight to score once, then settle into it like a Serie A side.

PFo
PFo

Wenger has to be one of the dumbest elite managers in world football when it comes to team selection and in-game personnel/tactical changes. How he does not see that he’s setting his team up to be dysfunctional (when fairly simple alternatives are within reach), I’ll never know.

1. We played 4-3-3, something I’ve wanted us to do for ages now. But, rather than play the quick-footed, skillful, mobile 50m pound striker to lead the line and combine with our lineup of skillful, mobile creative types, Arsene decided to start an extremely static target man who needs crosses, when this formation’s most obvious weakness is a tendency to be too narrow.

2. We then compounded this error by playing two “wide” forwards who spent the entire game taking up positions in the middle of the pitch and made runs down the line approximately zero times all game. The ridiculous thing is that both Iwobi and Alexis have shown in the past that they can play as more outright wingers: of course they’re going to want to cut inside and combine, but they both have the skill, pace, and willingness to stretch the play by staying wide and taking on their fullbacks. But we saw NONE of that, even after halftime when I assumed it would be OBVIOUS that Wenger would insist that they stay wider for the second half. The whole lack of structure thing with Wenger’s teams–especially when compared to Pep, who also plays 4-3-3, but with forward players who stay wide–is MADDENING. (I know, I know, this is not a new problem, and I should have made peace with it by now.)

3. And this was against a West Ham team who I *think* (I couldn’t be bothered to confirm) were playing with a back 3/5, the achilles heel of which is runs in behind the wing backs to pull the wide defenders out wide, but the great strength of which is plenty of defenders in the middle of the penalty box. So what did we do? We spent 90 minutes trying to ram it down the middle.

4. To top it all off, we started a right footed midfielder at left back. Don’t get me wrong, I thought AMN played well, and he was one of the few players who was willing to swing in dangerous crosses at Giroud. It’s just that, as if we didn’t have enough problem with a lack of width already, Wenger trolls us by playing a left back who will also want to cut inside constantly.

5. Don’t get me started on the subs. That calls for a separate comment altogether. But I’ve got students’ papers to grade, by which point hopefully I’ll have cooled off some…

Ausdrexler
Ausdrexler

Xhaka showed today he can actually defend decently.
As a team though, FFS when a team parks the bus we need to stop with this dicking around bollocks we do with the ball.. so much possession for sfa opportunities. Try a few shots from outside the box, force a few defenders to come up field a bit more, create that space the team needs.
Throw it wide, down the line, pass it back, switch it. Repeat. Endlessly. This tactic does not work against any team which has every man back in the box.

ArsenalManitou
ArsenalManitou

I have no answers but Bellerin’s reluctance to go to the byline and cross was strange. I thought AMNs crosses looked dangerous, Bellerin should have attempted more.

John O
John O

Way too big on Xhaka. You can count on 2-3 failures of concentration each match.

Ernest
Ernest

Join the discussion
Hope we turn the corner sooner than later

Lone+Star+Gunner
Lone+Star+Gunner

A little better in midfield with the extra man and I like the midfield 3 picked for this game. Defense still a mess. AMN played well out of position. Few chances created again.

Look, I’m no zealot for WOB or AKB, but it’s clear this team is way underperforming for the overall talent level.

Arsenal’s problems run deeper than the manager, but IMHO all our solutions begin with his dismissal.

COYG

Santori
Santori

Interesting match, frustrating result.

Some positives, some bad points still to address

Thought both Jack and Iwobi did well.

Plenty of dynamism and bite, also both turn quickly to move us forward…but generally forward into traffic.

The back 4 allowed for the extra player in midfield n

But because Alexis and Ozil are more suited to having over lapping wing backs and thus playing in field, we lacked width.

AMN again with a decent outing and his reverse right footed crosses decent several times in finding Giroud.

When Welbeck and Lacazette came on, again little effort to cut down the line.

Back 4 afforded extra help for Granit and we were dominant in midfield but several hairy moments largely the result of poor positioning (Granit first half with Arnautovich), poor clearance( Koscielny and Monreal with Hernandez) and Poor keeping Cech.

I think Iwobi and Jack can be an alternate to 3-4-2-1

Iwobi drove forward with purpose and hit the post. A Jack also has no issue attacking forward with some fight.

But we now need a bit of width.

PFo
PFo

Iwobi was playing as a wide forward, not Ozil so he’s the one to blame for the lack of width, while Mesut was part of the midfield 3 (though I may have switched the two of them).

Holyviper
Holyviper

Pain.

Petits Handbag
Petits Handbag

Our best player was a centre midfielder making his premier league starting debut at left back. Because unlike the lad on the other side, he can cross a ball. I’d be happy to give him a run at right back and drop Bellerin. He can’t cross and ever since his injury is amazing pace just doesn’t seem to be there.

Olivije žirod
Olivije žirod

We tried something new with 4-4-2-romb formation. It was different. Especially in the first half we were too narrow. Iwobi played too deep but he changed that in the 2nd half and showed more awareness. We weren’t that bad but atm we just can’t score.

Xhaka was actually very good. Not many see that but he is very important player in the last third to maintain and control that high line. We always lost that when he goes off

Defensive wise we weren’t good enough again from the start. I actually understand why he played Monreal as CB infront of Chambers/Per/Holding – because with him our backline can play higher backline (on paper).

Imo Giroud, Ozil, Wilshere, Xhaka and Cech were pretty solid other were shaky. At the start of the season my expectations based on situtation were top 4 but we need to win those games if we want to achieve it. Should have been penalty on Giroud?

In the past years Wenger made some mistakes but I disagree it is a same case this year. He is a little more adjustable. Even yesterday we had a (new) plan which didn’t go quite to plan in the first half but in the 2nd it was much better (apart from last 5 minutes)

Simon Patterson
Simon Patterson

Just a thought why not play AMN as a DM with Wilshire an Xhaxa in front! that boy has skills but is in no way a left back….

George
George

Imagine how good Welbeck could be if he could play football.

meneam
meneam

Everyone watching the game could see from the first 30 minutes that we need laca or welbeck upfront instead of giroud.. took wenger 82 minutes to figure that out !!!

Razznik
Razznik

When i think about wenger, this qoute comes to mind “You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

Drogheda gunner
Drogheda gunner

I thought amn was good id give him a crack in the centre.

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David Hillier\'s luggage

I think Alexis is a big problem right now, I would have hooked him before Iwobi last night. Love the guy but he loses the ball a lot by looking to either head straight to goal on his own or find Ozil instead of playing more effective balls to ‘lesser’ players. It really limits our attacking play. He used to make up for it by crafting opportunities for himself or getting on the end of Ozil’s passes, he’s not really doing that now though

Ollie
Ollie

This is getting incredibly tedious. Our usual November slump is happening in December but I imagine this might continue into the New Year now.
Basically it doesn’t matter what formation a team plays. It really doesn’t. Any top top side could play boring 442 every week and win. It’s the players playing to instruction within a system. It’s having the belief in what they are doing and having “a system” to play in. It’s not WHAT you do but HOW you do it.
This team is managerless in every aspect apart from body. We may as well just wheel Wenger out every game as some sort of ode to his contribution to the club. It’s embarrassing and the players must know this. One of them must of said before/after training, “this isn’t working boss”.
Please let the pain subside just a little.