Wenger to keep Mavropanos after Greek defender impresses in training

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Arsene Wenger has been so impressed with Konstantinos Mavropanos that he’s considering keeping the new signing in the squad until the end of the season.

Originally, the plan was for the 20 year old to go out on loan, with a move to Werder Bremen more or less arranged between the two clubs, but the new signing has impressed the manager so much he now wants to keep him until the end of the season.

Speaking after the 0-0 draw with Chelsea in the Carabao Cup on Wednesday night, Wenger said, “I personally want to keep him until May to know him better, to asses his level.

“The first signs he has shown are so encouraging that I decided to keep him until May.”

It may also be a case that he provides some defensive reinsurance at a time when we’re without some key players.

Both Nacho Monreal and Sead Kolasinac are currently sidelined, while Laurent Koscielny is struggling with his Achilles problems. Add to that Per Mertesacker struggling in his final season as a player, and he might well prove to be useful cover.

Given he’s a signing identified by new Head of Recruitment, Sven Mislintat, it’s a first chance to see if the German’s eye for talent is as good as we hope it is.

Fingers crossed.

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clockenddan

Great idea. We are short at the back so if he looks half-ready, keep him here. Quite excited to see how the first of Sven’s talent-spots works out for us.

Mein Bergkampf

Let’s hope he’s good at avante garde, free form defending. Express yourself Konstantinos! Be the ball, be the pitch, be the wind, and the air!

Perry Stalsis
Perry Stalsis

Get Bouldy to do some role-play with the defenders. “Alright lads, it’s time for rainbow rhythms. We start off in red, the colour of primal urges…”.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Be water, be heart. Heck, just be Captain Planet

Fabulous
Fabulous

And the rumors with Cristian Pavon came out of nowhere as far as I’m concerned. If true and is the work of Sven, we’ve to give him props for it.

Jack
Jack

This guy…he’s like a new signing!

Akshay
Akshay

I am going to try and connect the dots here: This new defender is going to slot in as a CB and he will be considered instead of Monreal who goes back the left wing back, so one of Monreal or Kolasinac will play as LWB (other kept as back up) allowing Niles to move into the the spot left by Coquelin.

Not exactly internal solutions, but this could be a possibility of Wenger’s thinking.

Fabulous
Fabulous

That’s very much it I’d like to think. Thank goodness Wilshere found his form again out of the blue, that sorts of filled the void left by Santi, and we can see how much a difference that makes to our performances. Replace Sanchez adequately, and get another top notch winger to replace Walcott and we’re not left so bad really. There seems to be plenty wingers out there (who seem available) this window for some reason; Malcom, Lucas Moura, Draxler, Lemar, and as I mentioned earlier Pavon. Sign two of them up, and make sure Ozil’s tied up; and the team (and set up) doesn’t look so bad when Wenger inevitably leaves.

That being said I fully expect to be disappointed by end of January. Such is the level of expectations I have with the club.

Lord Bendnter
Lord Bendnter

That’s the beauty of it. The problem is clear every season, and we all know which positions need to be fixed in the starting 11. Yet, every season we are left disappointed in the transfer market. This window will be no different unfortunately

David C
David C

yeah, I think AMN and Xhaka could be a real complimentary pair in midfield! Hope Rambo’s back soon, we’ve really missed him too.

Up the Arsenal
Up the Arsenal

If we’re playing 3ATB, who will AMN replace? Xhaka or Ramsey/Wilshere? Or we go with a 3 man midfield with AMN as DM?

Mpls
Mpls

Xhaka could probably use a breather. Rotate a match here or there for him, fill in on the wingback when needed, come off the bench as an extra closer (if we’re ever in such a luxurious position). Hector might need a break pretty quick here too. I think AMN is in on the cusp now.

ronaldo
ronaldo

more bull shit from wenger

King 14enry
King 14enry

Yeah, I hate it when he signs players ready for the first team. I much prefer a Wellington Silva, where we sign him just to loan him out for 5 seasons…

gooner
gooner

If only his middle name was sopranos…

Different year Same shit
Different year Same shit

If he has a bit of pace, he’s got to be challenging Chambers for a spot in a back three.

Bin
Bin

Not how I like to judge a player but on Youtube clips he looks very pacey to the style of Varane at RM.. huge strides eating up the ground.

I actually loved us sitting deep last night vs Chelsea it was refreshing to see us head everything and block everything which came our way. No coincidence our defenders look a lot better when there isn’t 50 yards of grass between them and the goal..

Mr. G
Mr. G

If he’s likely to get a few games then this is probably good, get him accustomed to life at Arsenal.

If he’s hardly going to play though, I think he’d be better off on loan somewhere rather than playing reserve football…

beNZed
beNZed

Ah, didn’t know he was the debut Sven acquisition – interesting indeed!

ClockEndRider
ClockEndRider

Hope he doesn’t go the way of other nonWenger (Stat DNA) signings.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

How about the non statDNA direct Wenger signings like Santos, Gervinho, Park, Etc?

Arturo Lupoli
Arturo Lupoli

Good start from Sven… hopefully.

BromleyGooner
BromleyGooner

Yet another young defender who will have his confidence destroyed played for us…

Shambles
Shambles

I want to assume wenger was always going to keep him. He just didn’t want it to look like that’s our main signing with all the sh*t flying.

Doesn’t matter though, just waiting for when this reign will end. It has to end eventually.

bystander
bystander

Mavropanos was born in 1997 so he counts as an under-21 player both this season and next. Especially if we keep playing in back 3, no reason not to keep him around.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Great, so we have Per (retiring), Kos (soon to retire I bet, Mustafi, Chambers, Holding and possibly even Monreal. Ample cover for both a 2-man or 3-man defence.

So please, I know you don’t like classic DMs, but please let Shaef but Bielik especially return to being DMs again please? Bielik in particular hasn’t been anywhere near as impressive as he once when he was a DM.

Plus with Coq gone and Elneny likely next, even with AMN, we’re gonna need more DMs.

badaab
badaab

Or perhaps sign someone new…
I’ve said it repeatedly, but Marcos llorente would fit the bill of what we need in the midfield.

Billiam
Billiam

Conspiracy theory: Is this a Wenger power play. He was not involved in this signing at all, and perhaps not involved in the idea to loan him out in Germany… So he overrules that decision to show he still wields the power?

Probably not. But who doesn’t love a conspiracy theory?

Danny
Danny

Or maybe an opportunity to sling a bit more baseless shit in wenger’s direction?

Comedian
Comedian

I am confident with Sven , its not just the dortmund players who were highlighted , one guy whom i got impressed with this season is Mikel Merino who plays for newcastle. Seeing him i thought this was exactly what i wanted xhaka to be , researched about him and got to know he is from dortmund too signed under sven network. This guy really has an eye for talent and not just based on stats.

badaab
badaab

Merino is wasted in that toon midfield. He looks like a young arteta, and he’d be much better suited to a side where he’s not being asked to play 2 positions (as shelvey is always wandering).

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Sounds like Arsenal. Sign him up.

Db412
Db412

Play him out on the wings first to gain experience ?

Ross
Ross

Do we know if he plays as a left sided CB. We seem dominated by players who favour the right excluding an aging kos and monreal. Would be nice to get someone more comfortable on the left of a 2 or 3 cb formation

ramgooner
ramgooner

Good. I want him to stay and learn the language. Communication is the key in his position. We have a fantastic batch with Chambers, Holding, Beilik, Mavropanos, Kolasinac, Bellerin, Ben Sheaf and Maitland Niles with Mustafi, Kos and Monreal to guide them. I like the profile of this batch. Think they have a bit of steel about them.

badaab
badaab

I remain unconvinced that the young lad is ready for the big step up, but hope I will be pleasantly surprised.
That said, the cynic in me thinks this is what we are as a club now- a slightly higher tier southampton- buy low and sell high to funnel more talent up the premier league table to the billionaire stratosphere while the Kroenke regime bleeds the club of its soul.

A Different George
A Different George

Historically, we’ve often considered a season training with the first team as a preliminary step for a young player *before* a loan to a Championship or foreign side. So this doesn’t really seem out of the ordinary.

caligunner
caligunner

unconvinced?

Do you follow the greek league? I understand its not even close to the Prem but what are you unconvinced about?

santori
santori

Sounds like more penny pinching.

Hope he’s right.

Its difficult to say if an expensive solution will cure our ills in defense.

The issues have been systemic as much as with individual concentration levels and decision making.

Holding and Chambers look better with the midfield yesterday affording more support. Midfield have been as much culpable over last few matches in not tracking runners into the box as have individual errors with the back line.

Maybe Mavropanos could add more redundancy but we lack the experience IMO.

Evans OTOH would be a band aid and frankly not the type of signing we need in revisiting Silvestre/Squillaci.

What Wenger risked last summer was in relying on two young defenders who had yet to show return on promise whilst letting one of our better back up defenders go. Gabriel was improving but was let go too early (and more strange…Mustafi almost went as well)

I’m not sure whether there is sufficient clarity in thinking regarding squad composition.

the same is happening now in midfield.

As expected Wenger may rely on the young AMN and the mediocre Elneny to cover for Coquelin’s departure when we really need a capability upgrade with some experience in the engine room.

It is a risky move that not only brings complications to fullback cover but also entails the young player get up to speed in again another relatively unfamiliar position (regardless of academy experience)

I’m not sure it is the wisest choice given current issues already plaguing us.

Far better would be to have an experience player come into midfield and also blood AMN (particularly considering Jack and Ramsey and their injury record)

As for Mavropanos, hopefully he delivers on promise but we now have 3 young players auditioning. We will need KOscielny, Mustafi and Per to show a bit of guidance.

Thus far the guidance from Bould and the bench seems worryingly absent.

santori
santori

Probably keeping him bc he wants to spend in other areas.

Looks like he will elect to turn a blind eye to issues in midfield and defense and reinforce potentially higher up which is typical feet of clay approach.

We look like we can bring in about 50-60m income this January if all goes right.

We already sold Coq for a good 12m. Potentially Alexis we can sell for closer to 25m, maybe Walcott for 20.That’s 55m (minus 2m on Mavropanos)

Maybe we can move on Debuchy for 5m make it 60m…doubt we find a buyer for the mediocre Elneny.

Which means if we are prepared to bring in 2 players to replace Alexis and Walcott, it will be within that figure unless Wenger is brave enough to go over by 50m to make it total of 100-110m expenditure and try and recoup the money in the summer.

More likely he will operate around 60m ball park or slightly higher. Can we add a Mahrez for 45m and say Pavon for 25m? That will come to around 70m (maybe 10m into red)

It leaves him nothing for midfield and defense which he will try and patch up.

If he can fix the systemic issues he can get away with not adding at the back and (less) in the engine room (although there are injury issues).

but thus far over the years, Bould and copany have not been anywhere near effective in instilling structure and discipline to cover flaws.

Wenger over the years has flattered to deceive bc he has bought well to cover inherent tactical shortfalls.

Whether he will again fall into penny pinching habit or decide to let lose the purse string a little (considering he is in last 2 seasons and the club needs immediate solutions) will remain to be seen.

Old habits die hard so I expect the former to hold sway. Alas.

santori
santori

FRankly our problem over last 5 years in which wenger has tried to spend more to ramp up quality is that we have not got the balance right and are still playing catch up.

We have still been over reliant on buying also-can band aid players like Silvestre, Squillaci before and later Santos. . But we have also the Elneny, Perez buys which are OK but not necessarily the players we need to spend to take us to the next level even with a number of marque signings.

We have consistently been short of 3 or 4 top quality players prior to 2013. Thereafter we closed the gap but are still short on 1-2 quality/technical players to truly compete.

At the same time we have been slightly over reliant on younger potential thrown in without proper chaperoning and without crucial experience to back up.

Buys on future potential like Campbell, Asano, (Miyaichi), now Holding, to some extent Chambers, Mavropanos and academy promotes like AMN following Bellerin and Iwobi are fine.

But it is slightly over weighted on potential that has yet to fully deliver and in some areas without proper experience full article back up.

The balance has not been right and we are constantly in catch up mode with where the league (and spending trend) is going.

Considering he is possibly in last season or two in charge, and where we are in terms of competitiveness, Wenger needs to opt for ready made purchases now and proven quality.

He needs to add that even if it means a slightly higher premium. No one will begrudge him being a bit less frugal.

We all appreciate his hard work growing the money and the club during the stadium years. BUT reality now is he needs players who can come in and make instant impact not have too many development projects.

And the squad needs highly technical technicians (arguably even with Alexis we are one or two short of these type of skilfull players particularly with Santi not replaced over 3 seasons)

I’m not sure Wenger can change and reverse the trend. he is a constant builder but also a penny pincher. There are positives to this of course but also negatives.

Therefore…we may pay the price and I don’t mean dishing it out for the quality we need.

rk123
rk123

“I personally want to keep him until May to know him better, to *asses* his level” – oh yes, *Arse*ne knows 😉

George
George

I find that a little bit exciting – am I being naive?

poobear
poobear

After watching some of his highlight videos I’m convinced. He’s almost as tall as Per but built like a kolasinac, and loves a header and a good hard slide tackle

Gun4Gun
Gun4Gun

Iwobi and Walcott must go on loan then we recall Campbell and Perez. Buy Marez it Drexler then we will be good. Niles can officially move into the midfield now that Coquelin is out. Keep Sanchez and Ozil. If we win the Europa league I feel like the summer isn’t going to be a real team changing moment. And next season could be out season