Video: Arsenal 0-3 Man City ‘On the whistle’

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Arsenal were beaten in the Carabao Cup final at Wembley today. The Gunners went down 3-0 to Pep Guardiola’s side and there’s no doubt about which team was superior on the day.

You can check out the player ratings here, and watch the on the whistle thoughts of James from Gunnerblog.

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Danger Mouse
Danger Mouse

Hard to argue with any of what James is saying there. The team is broken. Hard to see anything other than a turbulent, messy end of season ahead. If Milan knock us out of next round of Europa League ( a distinct possibility) then Arsene Wenger must surely resign that same night.

Mein Bergkampf

Ok, is he definitely not at Wembley?

Henry XIV
Henry XIV

No, he was not at Wembley, as millions of other arsenal fan all over the world.
Love for football and Arsenal does not change the fact that it’s just a game and there are various other more important things in life.
And it has reached a point that Arsenal has given me miserable life. I watched Arsenal games whenever I can…not in the stadium, as I am thousands of miles away. Even when I was unable to watch the game, each “oh no” sound from the Football Mobile app kicked in agony in my heart. Last night was the worst.

P/s Probably should have sold Mustafi instead of Gabriel.

Mein Bergkampf

Yeah, it was just a joke as, unless the Wembley hospitality has changed dramatically, sitting on the corner of a bed in a dimly lit boudoir is a pretty obvious indication that young James didn’t travel for this one.

Charlie Whitmore
Charlie Whitmore

In 1901, Connie Mack founded the Philadelphia Athletics baseball team. He built three separate championship team (in 1901, the early 1910s and around 1930). He was probably the second best manager of his era, a visionary in many ways, and a gentleman by the standards of the times (or of our times). And then he kept managing into the 1950s and into his 90s. The last 20+ years were deeply embarrassing to everyone. Arsene Wenger is now three or four years into late-Connie-Mack territory. It’s terribly sad. But well past time to go.

Mpls
Mpls

I agree we were set up alright and seemed quite stable and on a good path most of the first half. The 5-4-1 was working, if not the most attacking formation. But that leads me to where it went wrong:

So right on the comment about not holding players responsible for their part. Yes, Wenger is a key part of the problem, we know. But Mustafi made an absolutely clueless error. He’s made many. Chambers, not at the level required. Kolasinac was better than other recent matches in which he was poor. Attackers are ineffective.

Now, I don’t know that I buy the players are ‘not playing for him’, but Wenger IS most certainly culpable for players who dare repeatedly have so many of these lapses or fail to show up, or just have no fire to go out and impose the supposed power of a big team upon their opponents. We’re well past the point where ‘serene’ does this squad any good. They need to put the fucking work in now and show they have any shred of intent and pride left.

Awesomesauce25
Awesomesauce25

Agree Wenger shoulders plenty of the blame, but definitely Mustafi is not excusable in any way. No CM worth a damn would choose to pretend to be fouled rather than man up and fight for that ball till the very end. And in this case, Wenger did try to rectify the Mustafi situation by trying to sell him off and replace him this summer. It didn’t pan out for whatever reason, and we’ve been paying for it in a very meaningful way this year. Yet it’s hard to drop him when Holding and Chambers have had chances to step up in cup games and have proven not quite ready. Frankly I’d still drop him and let one of those two get some consistent playing time to work through their learning pains. We’re going to have errors either way. Better it to at least be compensated by having a more experienced player in Holding or Chambers who have learned from those errors than Mustafi who doesn’t seem to learn at all and should be hitting his prime.

Mpls
Mpls

I don’t want to go too tangential, but based on this season Holding’s got more in his locker. Plus he seems to have the head that can develop into the positionally aware type. Mustafi and Chambers, not so. The number of times I see Chambers getting ghosted past while he gets his grabby hands out is scary. Mustafi just overcommits and puts himself totally out of the play. Not the guy to ‘organize’ the back line. Kos is also the type that likes to press up and get the jump.

We need that update on the Mertesacker role – never getting caught upfield. Bring one in, continue developing Holding.

A-team for Europa, everything else is building up and bettering the players that might still be worth building on. The next Bellerin might emerge.

Con
Con

It’s time for revolution, not evolution.

Jimmy
Jimmy

It’s just a shame. In Australia but absolutely no inclination to stay up for the game as it was a foregone conclusion. What I don’t understand is why, if Wenger loves the club, he is hanging around as he can see it is doing no good whatsoever and we need to start afresh

Stuck on repeat...
Stuck on repeat...

Just don’t see us a a team at present. It’s just a rag tag collection of individuals thrown together wearing the same shirt. I don’t believe that I am alone in saying there is no connection with the squad from the fans. We try. We support the Arsenal & this rag tag bunch just happens to be “The Arsenal”…so we’re kinda stuck with each other for the time being. But it is so so painful & we all know it.

No leadership on the pitch today. No barking out instruction or direction. No individual trying to raise heads or performance when things started to go wrong (Forgot for most of it that Kos was even on the pitch TBH). At the same time the manager shuffled up & down with his hands in his pockets looking hopelessly lost & out of ideas. A subs bench of Welbeck & Iwobi to call upon if we needed to dig deep.

Sad dark days.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

Sorry James, I know you want us to share our thoughts, but what can we genuinely say that hasn’t already been said countless of times before?

James Markwick
James Markwick

Good comments James. Wholeheartedly agree with you. I watch the games from my couch in Melbourne in the middle of the night and I am ready for change. I am positive that it will lift the players, the club and also the fans that go every week.

I remember pre Wenger and what happened to the club when he came in. I am sure that a new manager will not have such a big impact however it could get us into the top 4. I’m never sure what the best team is, 3 or 4 at the back, 1,2,3 up front and I get the feeling that AW does not know either.

As you said, it was very disappointing to lose in the manner in which we did – we just need to see a fighting spirit. There are never any hard passionate tackles – it is all too pretty. I want to see a team that wants it.

Keep posting – I really enjoy listening to you on the Arsecast.

karl
karl

The most disturbing thing is that Mustafi knows there is no chance one teammate or even the manager will hold him accountable for laughable defending.

We are simply treading water in the hope that Arsene will leave us alone in the end.

Joe
Joe

As a fan what I hate most in feeling humiliated. I can handle a loss when the team gives it they’re all, but they are blatantly not doing that for this manager, even in a cup final.
I think we’re all agreed that too many performances in recent years suggest that as an effective manager, Arsene has run out of ideas. The reinvention that kept Alex Ferguson at the top of his game has not been there for Arsene and he only has himself to blame. I love the man to bits but in my opinion, he is the problem, not the team. Yeah, I get the belief that once you run out onto the pitch it’s the players that are accountable but good managers and coaches are the difference.
Arsenal FC is not the first club to arrive at a point where it’s once successful manager no longer holds sway. since 2006, from top to bottom, everything else at the club has changed except the manager, everything! Get the right man in and the addition of two or three in defence and midfield, and watch this bunch all of a sudden start playing well.
The “be careful what you wish for”, brigade are just afraid of the unknown. The thing is we do know. It’s not working! We don’t need to rip out the engine we just need to pop in a new CPU.
If it were up to me I would move heaven and earth and make my key summer signing Massimiliano Allegri. he’s done the rounds in Italian football and has the pedigree, standing and maturity that would serve us well but most of all, he bloody well knows how to set up the defensive aspects of a successful football team!!

Awesomesauce25
Awesomesauce25

I agree it’s time for a change and Wenger probably needs to go now, but what I don’t get is how everyone who thinks Stan Kroenke is our downfall, why do we think Arsene is the problem. I think Arsene probably still has all the qualities to build an amazing team, but I doubt the dysfunction of the club management enables it. I think year after year he had his targets and is delivered 3rd 4th and 5th options instead of his key targets. Then he also is probably offered an option that he isn’t even interested in and he feels he might as well stick with someone already on the team than waste the money on someone he doesn’t care to have. We will likely find out if it is Arsene or Kroenke I the few years after Arsene leaves as I suspect he will find his way to a club who has the desire and the means to back him in the transfer market. Then, is he fails to get that team to perform, we’ll know it was him. Or, if we hire a new manager who has a history of success and can’t win here, we’ll know it wasn’t Arsene. We’ll find out soon I suspect.

Jdog
Jdog

The thing is I look at all the players in the squad and I think…with the right management we could have a serious team. Ozil, one of the best number 10s in the world, auba, myka and kolasinac, best players in Germany last few years in their respective positions. Lacazette, one of the best players in France up to a year ago. Even mustafi was highly rated when he came, shows glimpses of promise and is only 24. All of our players, bar none, are regressing under wenger. It’s almost as if our staff coach all of the good out of them in a very short space of time in place of mistake laden crab football. I do wonder if there is such an obsession to correct their flaws (eg kolansic’s passing stats), we teach them to forget the things which made them the players they are. A new manager and a couple of shrewd spine players and arsenal could be fun again. I really hope arsene announces his retirement in the next few weeks and we get enrique end of the season. There seems to be a lot of smoke around this. If wenger confirms he is leaving, at least we could all get behind something until the end of the season. A light at the end of the tunnel. Any other outcome would be utter madness.

Gereoma
Gereoma

The success of Man City this season is that they asked themselves the three basic questions of a classic investor,1.do l want to make profit/to win? 2.with what personnel/coach? 3. at what cost/the players needed. After the game, I saw Fabian Delph, Mendy and other grade A players not even deployed for the match. While City wants to make profit from winning the Champions league and the EPL, the Carabao Cup already in the kitty; Arsenal wants to make profit through top4, and other fringe areas such as TV Rights. Arsenal cannot complain in the position it has found itself, its a natural habitat for a stingy club. If Milan dumps us, which is becoming increasingly possible, it means no CL football next season. With quixotic Wenger seeing off his contract, the ‘first six’ would be a flatter next season, I can assure you.