Man Utd 2-1 Arsenal – player ratings

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It looked as if we were going to hang on for a draw with I think we deserved, but then Marouane Fellaini’s head and David Ospina’s tiny arms saw United grab a late winner.

Read the match report and watch the goals here.

Here’s how the players rated today.

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Goonerguy26
Goonerguy26

What is it with sky and xhaka? That was disgraceful at half time and then again at the end

Frank Bascombe
Frank Bascombe

They’re cunts.

George
George

Aye. Redknapp has pictures. I’m sure of it.

Martin
Martin

It’s not only Sky but even some of our supporters who cannot accept the improvement he has made in recent weeks. Thought he had an excellent game today and had an assist.

A Different George
A Different George

On the US feed, Graeme Le Saux said something about how something was good defense by Xhaka and Lee Dixon said “that’s cause he didn’t have to tackle.” Not wholly unfair.

Bould's Eyeliner
Bould's Eyeliner

I hate Graeme. He sucks at commenting. Lee Dixon just clearly gives him a lot of quiet stares over the table during the match, you can hear the awkwardness.

Bob dobbery
Bob dobbery

It’s bang out of order tbh. The comments about him being captain “must be short of options” etc. I can accept criticism of players performances but Souness and Redknapp just seem to hate the guy on some personal level.

Bould's Eyeliner
Bould's Eyeliner

I bet it’s just the typical racism against Eastern Europeans. What can we do…

baz00r
baz00r

The pundits are harsh on Xhaka, he’s not that bad. But he is exactly that, not that bad, he’s not actually that good either.

Ulster gooner
Ulster gooner

May have been harsh but a lot of hometruths there. he has been a liability defensively since he signed, nothing short of disgrace at times. A couple of assists doesnt isn’t a sign that he is improving because he isn’t. How many times have we seen him do what he did today, instead of tracking pogba he stands and watches. He’s 24 years old, he’s not a kid, for 35 million he should be all singing all dancing by this stage.

Jack
Jack

Sounness was absolutely ridiculous but I don’t see the praise for him today. He plays and makes decisions very slowly and all too transparently for me, and the goal was another example of how much of liability he is in defensive situations.

Cyprus The Immortal Gooner
Cyprus The Immortal Gooner

Let’s ser aside the Sky c***. While he’s a food player he’s NOT the holding midfielder we need unfortunately. We need a true destroyer if we want to compete with the rest as if next year. I’m 100% sure that the new manager will bring a natural DM. Our best teams had Vieira, Petit, Gilberto…Xhaka is nowhere near them in terms of discipline.

Doug
Doug

Vieira was never a holding midfielder at Arsenal though. He was a box to box who ALWAYS worked best with a more defensive partner. Petit, Gilberto, Grimandi, Edu…even Parlour had to sit alongside him to let him run around.

adgonner
adgonner

Xhaka is the most limited player I can remember to have seen. Can’t run, dribble, tackle, man mark.. nothing. He is like a lighthouse. Turning from one side to other. But at least lighthouses stay on their feet and they are far away…

Frank Bascombe
Frank Bascombe

Know your stuff you eh? Like a few other geniuses across the internet.

locksley444
locksley444

You must have forgotten Theo Walcott

Toni
Toni

This is off topic but…..Unai Emery is stepping down as PSG boss at the end of the season. The timing of his and Wenger’s resignations look too coincidental.

Espen
Espen

Dont listen to those pundits from sky, they are just as terrible as espn pundits.

Victor
Victor

Heard that Mavropanos is Mislintat’s first signing. Hopefully he is going to unearth more gems that will bring the club success

Wengerballz
Wengerballz

Good game but we lacked that ruthlessness in both boxes to give us the edge. Wonder where I have seen that before…

Momozemio
Momozemio

Henrikh 7 > Alexis 7…
On to thursday non!

Momozemio
Momozemio

“now”

Danger Mouse
Danger Mouse

Have a really strange feeling we’ll do it Thursday. I usually fear the worst ( it’s how Arsenal have made me ) but I can’t shake the feeling we’re gonna pull it off.

Korede
Korede

Athletico 2-2 (3-3 aggregate)

hahahaha

My bonus rating will go to Hector for denying Alexis Shitcase regardless of the outcome. He really is improving these couple of games was very good vs Atletico as well

SharpasFc
SharpasFc

Yeah I upvoted Hector for that…can’t have Alexis scoring

Czar Kyza
Czar Kyza

Mavropanos……. Jeeez!!!!!! What a monster of a Centre Back he’ll turn out to be if he continues to work hard!!!! Mislintat showing just why he’s a well sought after hand in the player recruitment/talent hunting aspect of football!!!!

santori
santori

Calm down.

We’ve seen it before with Holding.

This United side was not even out of second gear for most parts.

Looks can be deceiving.

Not saying he did not play well and he looks potential.

But its like waxing lyrical about Elneny against a Championship side last season.

Perspective.

Czar Kyza
Czar Kyza

Guess you missed the part where I mentioned “If he continues to work hard”! No need to get ahead of yourself, the lad put in a solid performance considering it was his first game played in an environment that remains hostile for every visiting team especially the top six and was up against a bully striker with years of premier league experience, so just give him the credit he deserves and worry about tomorrow when tomorrow comes! Also don’t be quick to write Rob off, don’t know about you but based on his performances when he has been played in his natural position, I rate him higher than Chambers!!!!

Betty
Betty

“Gooch smelter” 10/10 for creativity. And, yuck. Smelted gooch

Pedant
Pedant

Mavropanos a future star.

89 was fine
89 was fine

Glad we didn’t take a beating and we’ll done Bellerin for a fantastic block to stop Alexis scoring. The youngsters didn’t look out of depth and I think they should continue to play and learn in our remaining league games they are a breath of fresh air and great to watch. We definitely saw a glimpse of the future today.

Jack4343
Jack4343

Mavrapanos looks big enough and strong enough and he looks calm too. He doesn’t look like a youngster. I really want to see more of him this year in the league. I can see why they changed their mind on loaning him out. I’m impressed. Oh and fuck Ashley Young. He’s an enormous cunt.

MadMax
MadMax

truth be told, before the game, like a lot of people, i’ve had a feeling that wenger would field a younger side, primarily of course because of our upcoming game, but also because it’s almost a meaningless tie now. because of that, i did expect us to likely lose. mind you, i take no joy in it of course.

but what i really wanted, as i’ve mentioned to a friend who watched the game with me, was to see mourinho muster whatever he can, shake wenger’s hand properly, maybe have a few nice words, and to at least try to show some respect to our outgoing manager.

i must say, i was really genuinely happy to actually see it happen. both mourinho, and ferguson greeting wenger, and presenting him with a gift, it just made me happy to see.

i never liked united of course, because of our past rivalries, and of course, blogs does have a point about the stuff they’ve said about wenger in the past too. but i dont think it’s all about forgive and forget and sincerity. it’s part of football rivalries i suppose, and almost inevitable sometimes. let’s face it, we’ve all said some nasty things about our neighbors too. wilshere especially during our FA cup win haha~ (RIGHTLY SO I MUST SAY!)

but sometimes, it’s about putting aside animosity for a moment, and remembering that everyone on the grounds, on the pitch, in the stands … that we’re all people too. and sometimes, we boo and we jeer, and we hate on each other, not because of anything other than the fact that we’re rival supporters.

in the end, be it out of sincerity, or obligation, it was still a nice gesture from the man united people. i still dont like them, but i can appreciate it.

A Different George
A Different George

Well, I think it was sincerity from Ferguson. It looked sincere from Mourinho too, but I don’t believe he is capable of it.

DBMÖ10
DBMÖ10

BFG is our BFG replacement !

gooner
gooner

Parkadopolous Chu Young?

GFSammy
GFSammy

I was dissatisfied Park Ghu Young didn’t get a rating

Huss
Huss

I thought Chambers was MOTM, and it was lovely to see an Arsenal team totally outclass their opposition in terms of pace. The kids are more than alright, and I hope there’s a role for all of them next year (hopefully Osei-Tutu as well)

Susan
Susan

I love Xhaka Khan and he gives it his all

Riku
Riku

Nelson, needs to get better defensively , was like watching Theo defending . Putting extra pressure on our full back. In first half. Then He made a Disappointing pass to Miki. When we were three on three in second , half, . Think Wenger played him up against Valencia to show Nelson , what it is like yo play against powerful full back. He should have taken him on more. ( that was my view from in the stadium. ) welbeck owned Valencia when he came on. Nelson did hit a sweet goal past Cech in the warm up.he is talented now needs to mature. hope new manager sorts out defending in general. It felt the players all ball watched and left it for each other , When Paul pog. Was reacted quickest to score .
Amn. Was very very good and solid.in midfield. Kol.. At left back very solid before injury. Other team genuinely afraid to go up against him and his strength. Remember when teams feared our physical tough players! Viera , known, silva, etc…Think he should play more , in a back five with monreal in team also. The ball over the top for aubameng’ is on very much of the time /and he makes the run, smaller was having big trouble when we got the ball to p.e.a. often, but no one in the team goes for quick long pass. ( not punt ) like Liverpool would for salah! Hope new manager realises this tactic / plan b is available. Very great news that Miki. Looked very sharp and hot back from injury. Bellerin too. Up the gunners

Riku
Riku

Also enjoyed in second half about 75 minute when I suddenly realise alexia was playing and I had forget he was on the pitch after half time cos he did nothing ( had not drank any alcohol)

MikeSA
MikeSA

Your “more stories” tab on the right on my iPad refuses to go away when clicking on th “x” and because it takes up just less than half the width of the screen, renders your article completely unreadable.

Seriously annoying.

KingKolo
KingKolo

Xhaka has made an improvement in the past few weeks… Souness today was weird. But (a) he’s improving from a pretty low bar so dips in form could be very scary, we need players who when their form dips don’t cost us cards, goals etc. Xhaka’s poor is extremely poor. And (b) he plays too slowly even when he’s playing well. Of course its hard to replace Santi and his level of between the lines passing but that’s whats needed in midfield to open up other teams. There are midfielders out there who we should be looking to challenge Xhaka for that deep lying play maker spot. He’s good but he’s just not that good.

George
George

Not even really blaming him for the second goal, but have to say (sadly) that Ospina annoys me. I get tired of his continual ‘injury’ moments and pray we are looking for a new number 1 this off season.

santori
santori

Granit again had a solid match. An excellent effort to get the ball to Mhki for the goal. Not sure what some pundits are watching. The Swiss makes a massive difference for us because he can transition us quick and is adept passing at long range switching our focus of attack quickly. This is why he is ahead of Elneny taking nothing away from the Egytian’s improvements.

He was a bit unlucky he was out jumped by Fellaini (though Ospina could have done better) but much of that was more due to us not being able to hold midfield last 30 minutes (after Mhkitaryan departed) and not closing YOung down fast enough to prevent the diagonal cross into Fellaini (we had a couple of warnings before)

I thought both Cbacks were also decent today. That doesn’t suggest they will be better starters than either Koscielny or Mustafi but quite obviously there is some potential in developing either or both. Also what this means for HOlding is something-else altogether. Surely either of HOlding or Mavropanos can do with a strong loan to develop whilst the other stays peripheral to team.

I think we were competitive enough in midfield first half. AMN as per usual full of power and energy but a couple of times he mislaid the ball too.

What changed was when Mhkitaryan left, we had far fewer options to pass out and were not as solid establishing control. United then came at us last 30 minutes and we had a hard time.

But that is not surprising considering the number of under 23s we fielded, if anything we did decent considering. Whether we should have more experience options even over those being protected for Thursday night is of course a different (and more serious) question, particularly if we are going to compete on 2 or more fronts.

The likes of Willock and Nelson whilst potential showed they were still wet behind the ears. Nelson was in Valencia’s pocket for most parts. Again, a more experience option is necessary out wide.

Iwobi as well seemed to struggle today later pulling up with a big of a strain. Again even with Welbeck on, the question remains whether we can transition as quickly from back to front and effectively.

Aubameyang for the price we paid, surprisingly quiet but would have benefited from better support out wide or players making the right runs off the ball.

Several times when he peeled wide to deliver into the box, the corresponding players around him failed to take a gamble closer to the 6 yard (The zone Ozil and Ramsey are adept at attacking into)

Unfortunate to see Kolasinac pull up with another injury, its been stop and start for him in his virgin season which has not help fluency in his game.

Bellerin was pretty decent today defensively. But as mentioned before, if he is kept busy fighting fires behind, we have issues exploiting right wing going forward.

Overall, we paid for our lack of squad depth.

That we have to field a team with so much inexperience (even considering injuries and circumstance on Thursday), atest to Wenger NOT doing enough business to cover for internal development better and provide for the non interventionist play he prefers.

Today was a bit of a post season match, United seem to be second gear at times so I would not put too much stock into some player’s performances. AGainst a full tilt United team, we would have been torn apart.

Some respect I am sure was shown to him for impending departure.

On to better things lets hope on Thursday.

loose_cannon
loose_cannon

I don’t think Xhaka is bad per se but I do think he’s not suited to the DM role and would probably be much more effective as an 8. Which ever way you slice it, it was a bad mistake for the goal and it’s not exactly his first this season. Just feel that a bit further up the pitch, where he doesn’t have to be as defensively omniscient, would do him some good and let him focus on his best qualities. Also glad to see Iwobi get some praise, gets far too much stick on here for such a young player.

Jack
Jack

Where on earth did blogs get the idea that Bellerin “defended well” for the goal? He almost did fantastically with that block, it has to be said, but the only reason he needed to make it in the first place was because he quite woefully lost Alexis at the back post.

It reminds me of how slower defenders often get praised for flashy slide tackles when caught out of position, while quicker players with better anticipation don’t have to make them because they’re in position to deal with the danger without having to slide. Usually this means that we keep possession instead of conceding corners and throws from slide tackles. But doesn’t look as dramatic so doesn’t get the same notice.

It’s easy to get caught watching the ball and providing simplistic analysis but what players, especially defenders do off the ball is just as important.

santori
santori

Maitland Niles and 8?

Mental.

Some people have their favorites amplify their good points and overlook their faults.

Faisal Narrage
Faisal Narrage

What I like about Konstantinos is that, though he’s young and still very raw, his raw attributes is what this team has missed for so long.

A big, strong, athletically dominant CB along with a sweeper type. Gosh I’ve been so used to seeing modern Wenger types (Gallas, Verm, Kos, Gabriel, Chambers) that I’ve kinda forgotten what it’s like to have a physically imposing CB.

Now just to see what our midfield looks like with an athletic and powerful box to box CM. Maybe give Josh Da Silva a chance.

Arsenala Vista Baby
Arsenala Vista Baby

AMN played very good in CM. His positioning is well balanced between charging forward & defending. He read the game well in midfield and has eyes for chances. He can replace Xhaka.

Ant
Ant

Let’s not get too excited – Holding had Costa in his back pocket, remember. Chambers, Holding and Mav are all at approximately the same level in my mind. Chambers/Holding seem to get lumped in the same basket because they’re both English and similar ages, but they’re very different players. Chambers is more technical, but Holding is more of a bruiser – similar to Mav.

Jonas
Jonas

I’ve seen Holding play some fairly smooth, technical small ball. Wondering what’s keeping him out.

Double98
Double98

Tony Adams was captain at 21. He was still relatively error prone for a while but he was trusted. I can’t see a reason not to trust these three ahead of Kos and Mustafi.. I also don’t know if buying a central defense works either – Man U for all their investment still rely on smalling and jones.

All our central defenders suffer from the fallout of a possession based approach that doesn’t work properly and regularly exposes them to unnecessary challenges with forwards. When your central defender is one on one with a striker, the striker will win a certain amount of times (n) out of 10.
When this happens several times in a game you are making it likely that the attacker will win a few and get a few goals.
Other big teams don’t expose their centre backs and they get covered by their mates.

Jazz doesn’t work in defence.

adgonner
adgonner

But watte player seems to be AMN. He has a distinct steeliness in his eyes. Vieiraesque.. Hope the incoming manager trusts him as much.

Killjoy
Killjoy

I’m new here, what is “that song”?
Thanks..

Killjoy
Killjoy

I mean, where else do I get this information if not an arsenal forum? Stop down voting geez!